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r parallel port, and the beauty is that
if you have a printer in this port, you can plug in the back of the tape
drive.  The only catch with this is that the power of the tape drive
must be on so that you can use the printer.

And just to let you know, before I used it, I never thought much about a
tape backup, but now, I've gotta have one!!

Later


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From: RICK DEMERS                            Number: 13934
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  5:56a
Subj: SG-16 with CR-562-B                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I know the topic may seem like a typo, but it is supposed to be SG-16
(Sound Galaxy 16).

My problem is that I can't seem to get an OS/2 CD-ROM driver for my
Panasonic CD-ROM.  I've tried calling the Aztec BBS.  I was thrilled to
see that they had one, but I guess they get a thrill out of watching
people try to download their files when their password protected.  I've
left messages, called several times (by the way, I'm calling from Canada
which makes it expensive enough calling once).  I figured I would at
least be treated with a little respect, I mean I even sent in my
registration form.  I've now given up on them.

Hope someone can help!!  By the way, please don't suggest to change to
an SB-PRO or SB-16, I just got off of my SB-PRO and don't regret it one
bit.


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From: GRANT DEASON                           Number: 13935
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  6:23a
Subj: Sony CD-31A                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Sony 31-A internal CD-ROM drive with Sony controller.  I'm
having a problem copying files from the drive...it will read the disk
for a while then display "CDR101:  Not ready error reading drive E:"

The files I am attempting to copy are 1.44 megs in size.  When I receive
the above message, I get the familiar "Abort, Retry, Fail" message.  I
select Retry but eventually the system refuses to read the drive at all
until I open the drive door and reinsert the disk.

I've had this drive for almost a year now...never any problems before
now.  Running a 386-40 under MS-DOS 6.2, CD-ROM cached with SmartDrive
(although results are the same with caching disabled).  No hardware has
been added since I installed the drive, except for a CMS Jumbo 250 Tape
Drive 7 months ago.

Any ideas, outside of a bad disk?
-=-
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From: GRANT DEASON                           Number: 13936
  To: ZAPHOD BEEDLEBROX                        Date: 02/05/94 10:12a
Subj: CD-ROM and QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ZB>Sorry couldn't help but drop you a note.I don't know much about CD-ROMS
  >although I do have one but I do know a bit about QEMM.I have had Versions
  >and the upgrades and now 7 with the upgrades.I have persisted with it but
  >with
  >DOS 6 or 6.2 I no longer need it.QEMM would freak but I wouldn't recommen
  >QEMM to anyone but a very patient person who loves to edit config and
  >auotexec files all day everyday.It is a very advanced program but it is
  >very unfriendly to the user unlike DOS 6.I needed it before but I don't n
  >as memmaker got it right.Just specify noems on your EMM386.exe in your

You've got to be kidding!  I'm not trying to insult or flame, but my
experience was exactly the opposite.  I purchased MS-DOS 6 (already had
a CD-ROM), and said goodbye to plenty of conventional memory.  I tweaked
settings till I was blue in the face, but MEMMAKER just didn't allow me
more than 590K base memory.  Also, when I added multiple boot
configurations, a feature of DOS 6, MEMMAKER couldn't deal with those
either and I of course had to do everything manually.

When I purchased QEMM 7, my problems came to a screeching halt!  I
loaded QEMM, ran Express Optimize, and watched 590K of base memory
increase to 634K!  This was with NO changes to the default setup, and
all I had to do was sit back and let QEMM do the work.

QEMM made it possible for me to optimize all 5 of my boot-up
configurations with minimal effort.  And I was able to use the CD-ROM in
memory-hungry applications, unlike before.
-=-
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From: ROB PERELMAN                           Number: 13937
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/05/94  5:34p
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SM>We have reopened after a January vacation and have more
  >catalogues to send to catalogue hungry cd-rom users.  If
  >you would like a free copy (or missed out on one during our
  >absense) drop us a line, send a message or call.  Don't
  >forget an address (<grin> it happens).

Rob Perelman
15625 Avenida Alcachofa #D
Rancho Bernardo, CA 92128
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From: ERIC LYTLE                             Number: 13938
  To: MATT CRICH                               Date: 02/05/94 10:16p
Subj: Re: OS/2 2.1 for Windows                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Matt, the problem is that your CD-ROM is not a true SCSI.  OS/2 requires that
it be installed using a SCSI drive.  I know that the full OS/2 version (on CD)
let's you recreate the disks using DOS.  That's the only thing you can, short
of buying a SCSI drive and controller.  BTW, once you *do* get OS/2 going, you
can probably find Mitsumi drivers to work with your CD-ROM drive in order to
run the games and other multimedia stuff.

Eric Lytle
[e-mail]

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From: ARIE VAN LEYEN                         Number: 13939
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/04/94  7:38a
Subj: Art on CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All,

Does anyone know if there are CDROMs containing art? I am looking for CD's on
for instance Impressionism, old and modern painting etc..

If anyone knows of the existence of such CD's please leave me a message with
all possible info on the CD (name, manufacturer).

Many thanks,

Arie

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From: JEAN-LOUIS ALAUX                       Number: 13940
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  3:12p
Subj: Critique world atlas                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Critique du CD ROM 'World Atlas' de chez PC TOOLS :

Un excellent produit, surtout pour le prix (109 FF), avec cependant
quelques remarques :

- les cartes pourraient tre plus nombreuses et plus grandes (la
capacit du disque est surtout occupe par l'aide sonore, pas vraiment
indispensable, et les vidos)

- les hymnes ne fonctionnent pas avec la SB

- les donnes politiques et conomiques sont par contre trs nombreuses
et prcises.

- Fonctionne sous windows, en 480*600, et ne s'adapte pas aux autres
dfinitions (vous avez intrt  possder une carte permettant le
changement de dfinition instantann, mais ce problme est trs
frquent)

- Les photos sont nombreuses et d'excellente qualit

- Les vidos sont sonores et plutt bien faites.
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 13941
  To: ANDREW B                                 Date: 02/05/94  2:45p
Subj: Mac CD-roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 AB> Does anyone have any info on any catalogs the specialize in cd-roms for
 AB> Mac?  Or at least offers a Mac section. And to anyone in the Philadelphia
 AB> area, does anyone know of a store that offers these?
 AB> I've had little luck finding Mac Cd info.

      Call 800# area assistance and ask for the number of Educorp...They sell
more Mac CD's than anyone. I don't like them myself (political reasons) but
they do have a lot of ROMs and pretty decent prices. Berkley Mac Users Group
(BMUG) and Boston Computer Society (BCS) also offer some good ones.

   DCK


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 13942
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94 12:09p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY. 02/06/94 BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331
European Racers (Boxed)....................................  $31.00
Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)...................................  $23.00
Mad Dog Mcree (Boxed)......................................  $35.00
Return to Zork (OEM).......................................  $27.00
Seventh Guest (2 disc set - OEM)...........................  $35.00
Star Wars Chess (OEM)......................................  $20.00
Tornado (OEM)..............................................  $27.00
World of Xeen (2 disc set - Boxed).........................  $45.00
 Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam

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From: JOHN ZELENKY                           Number: 13943
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  7:27p
Subj: Sony 33A CDROM Help                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Help, I just purchased a Sony 33A CDROM w/controller card at a local
show. With the controller card installed, my hard drive can't be read,
and the CDROM unit runs constantly.  I think it'a matter of proper
switch assignment, but there were no instructions included with the
card.  The card is identified by CD-31A-A1.  The software that came with
this setup also has no documentation.  If anyone has used this unit I
would be very grateful for any help I could get.
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From: CHARLES BARTLETT                       Number: 13944
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/05/94  5:45p
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SM>We have reopened after a January vacation and have more catalogues to s
SM>catalogue hungry cd-rom users.  If you would like a free copy (or misse
SM>on
SM>one during our absense) drop us a line, send a message or call.  Don't
SM>an address (<grin> it happens).


    Steve ... I'd like a copy of your're new Catalogue.

    The address is         Charles Bartlett
                1201 Seminole Blvd.
                Apt# 260
                Largo, FL
                34640-8138



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From: MARTIN CLEAVER                         Number: 13945
  To: CRAIG MYERS                              Date: 02/06/94  9:18a
Subj: "bad" dealers                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Craig,

In a message of <Fri 4 Feb 94 16:00> to Martin Cleaver (), you wrote:

 MC> were second-hand without docs, packaging or registration cards. They
 MC> were sure not offered as second-hand or even OEM and nor was the
 MC> price. If I don't see my money back very soon, you can be sure I too
 MC> will start posting regular warnings here.

 CM>         Good luck on getting your money back, Martin.

It arrived back on the end of January invoice... thank goodness... I hope it
was just 'a mistake' by the dealer concerned, but people shuld beware that
there is very little recourse or peer control on this area.

Bye, Martin.

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From: STEVEN MICHAELSON                      Number: 13946
  To: KENNETH DUKE                             Date: 02/05/94 11:30a
Subj: cd drive and drive d:                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I think you wrote the wrong person I have no idea what you are talking about.
Steven Michaelson

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From: STEVEN LANG                            Number: 13947
  To: RAPHAEL VANNEY                           Date: 02/06/94 10:00p
Subj: Creative Labs cd / OS2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Bonjour Steven !

 > Sunday January 30 1994 15:59, Steven Lang écrivit à All :

 > SL> Does anyone know if there is a driver for the creative labs double spin
 > SL> internal CD player for OS/2 ?

 > If your drive is plugged to a SoundBlaster, you will find the
 > required drivers on lots of BBSes, under the name SBCD*.*, or
 > 1193SBCD.* (latest I've heard of).

 > Sala kahle,                                  RVa

Yes, I understand there is one for os/2 but I read in the os/2 instructions
that the multimedia player with os/2 will not work properly.

Thanks


Steve
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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 13948
  To: BILL LUNDBERG                            Date: 01/29/94  7:46p
Subj: Re: CD COMPATIBILITY                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Bill Lundberg wrote 
Does anyone know if the Radioshack CDR-1000 is the same as a Mitsuimi
 +-------------------------------+


Did you get one of these? I'd like to know how you feel about the
CDR-1000.  I have one and I like it real well.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 13949
  To: GARY HUFF                                Date: 02/04/94 12:42a
Subj: PANASONIC 562/AT BUS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH:>Of course, Brice is SOOOOO much smarter than Sound Blaster and
GH:>Matsushita Electric that he knows more about their controller cards
GH:>than they do!  Those ignorant Matsushita engineers could save themselves
GH:>a lot of aggravation by letting little Brice design their products.

GH:>on second thought, don't bother replying... you're just giving me a
GH:>headache listening to your ravings.  Just go take your Lithium and lie
GH:>down for awhile.

<<ROFLMAO>>  Gotta hand it to you Gary, you've had me laughing out loud
more than once!  I'd say you're doing a rather admirable job  of defending
your position.  8)

Later,
.\\ike


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From: BRUCE ALLEN                            Number: 13950
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  7:45a
Subj: OS2/2.1 installing SCSI C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can I do this?  I am trying to install my Toshiba 3401B drive so it will run
under OS/2 2.1.  I have a PAS-16 SOUND card configured and running properly
under MMPM/2.  I keep trying to install the CD-ROM as a SCSI, but what port?
HELP

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From: RICK PEDLEY                            Number: 13951
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/03/94  3:57p
Subj: Quality programmers cd                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS>We're now taking pre-orders for CD Sourcebox if you're interested.  Price
MS>is $29.

Mike, can you post a breakdown of the disk's contents by subdirectory and Megs
per? I already have Tech Arsenal but I wouldn't mind one more. I'm particularly
interested in BASIC and Visual Basic. A file list available on a BBS would be
useful too. Thanx.

Rick

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From: GORDON CAMPBELL                        Number: 13952
  To: BRANDON LEE                              Date: 02/04/94 12:24a
Subj: []                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-=> On 02-01-94  16:31, Brandon Lee said this to All. <=-

 BL> Hey, I've been giving some thought to buying a CD-ROM.  But I was
 BL> wondering, what would I need it for?  Most the CD games would be on
 BL> floppies, and a CD can't be written on.  So what's the good of buying
 BL> one?

How 'bout to save hard disk space? As an example, King's Quest VI takes
approx. six megs of disk space. Run it from the CD-ROM version and it
takes none.

...G

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 13953
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  1:53a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
Mega Clipart........$20   Shareware Studio 2..$14   Grolier's MPC Ency..$29
World Vision 3-Pak..$37   Business Phonebk 91.$13   Bookshelf 1992......$32
Mac Shareware.......$17   Precision Mapping...$65   Mac M/M Space.......$26
CD Winbox...........$14   DTPro...............$24   Multimedia Magic....$14
Action Traveler.....$25   Phoenix 4.0.........$17   Wildcat Gold........$15
Funny...............$29   Int'l Graphics Libr.$25   Reel Clips..........$24
Library of Future...$25   Home Designer.......$27   Arizona Images......$19
 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

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From: CARL POTTER                            Number: 13954
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/06/94  9:47a
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

<<***** On 02-03-94, STEVE MANN wrote to ALL: *****>>
SM>We have reopened after a January vacation and have more catalogues to
SM>send to catalogue hungry cd-rom users.  If you would like a free copy (or
missed
SM>out on one during our absense) drop us a line, send a message or call.
Don't
SM>forget an address (<grin> it happens).

Steve,

     Please send me one of those catalogues and any Demo CD-s you may have,
just purchased a MultiMedia upgrade and want to see what is out there!  PS:
I won't forget the address!


Carl Potter II
2048 NE Jefferson Street
Hillsboro, OR  97124



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From: DAVID MUENCH                           Number: 13955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  5:39p
Subj: Cream of the Crop II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have a filelist from the above list for freqing? I'm interested in
picking one up, but I want to see what's on it first.

David

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From: MARKUS ROHNER                          Number: 13956
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  1:04p
Subj: FrontDoor and CD-ROM Chan               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

I'm looking for experiences in having a CD-ROM Changer running together with
FrontDoor. What kind of SW is used to change the CD's? Does it work
when someone request files from different CD's that are not currently loaded?

Any tips kindly appreciated.

Kind regards from Switzerland
Markus

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From: COLIN ZIMMER                           Number: 13957
  To: JUSTIN TURY                              Date: 02/03/94  7:13p
Subj: t7g                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


On 22 Jan 94 02:46pm, Justin Tury wrote to All:

 JT> Has anyone solved the Bishop puzzle on the floor in front of that one
 JT> bed?

 JT> Also, the rug in the same room has a map of the basement maze in it!
 JT> There are two arrows, and they are close together, if that helps any.



Yes I did finish the Bishop thing (It was me and my brother for 30mins till
we got them to move 2 space and 4 houres(9-1) to get it to work and I have
no clue how we did it.))

Colin Zimmer

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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 13958
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 02/05/94  2:32p
Subj: MAC CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HB> AB>Does anyone have any info on any catalogs the specialize in
 HB> cd-roms for AB>Mac?  Or at least offers a Mac section. And to anyone
 HB> in the Philadelphia AB>area, does anyone know of a store that offers
 HB> these?  I've had little luck AB>finding Mac Cd info. AB> AB>Thanks,
 HB>
 HB> Hi Andrew,
 HB>
 HB> Our Electronic Catalogue contains dozens of MAC titles.  If you'd
 HB> like one please leave a message in this conference and I'll pop one
 HB> in the mail for you.
 HB>
 HB> Regards,
 HB>
 HB> Hayden Bradshaw

Hayden - I would like one as well...
David Hill
7146 Jones
Apt D
OKC, OK 73145

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From: DAVID HILL                             Number: 13959
  To: PIETROPAOLO BIANCHI                      Date: 02/05/94  2:34p
Subj: MEDICAL & SCIENTIFIC CDRO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PB> Hi all. I am trying to locate CD ROM titles relating to the
 PB> following fields:
 PB>
 PB> - Medicine (professional level) (all branches, including
 PB> bibliographies) - Chemistry and Biochemistry.

I would also like to know... And does anyone know of the MCAT on CD-ROM?

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From: MIKE BARBALAS                          Number: 13960
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/03/94  2:03a
Subj: Stock prices                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


I was wondering if anyone knows of a CDROM that lists historical price
data for USA stocks (NYSE, AMEX, NASDAQ)?

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From: JOHN WARHAM                            Number: 13961
  To: SAMSON LUK                               Date: 02/04/94  1:38p
Subj: Offline reader                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The offline reader doesn't seem to be working. When I enter d to
download new messages it just reverts back to the menu. Bi.


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From: STEVE GOYER                            Number: 13962
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94 11:15p
Subj: OS/2 for Windows                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for OS/2 for Windows on CDROM.  I heard the v2.2 was just
released (or will soon be [?]).  I hear that the CD version is 39$ in
the states, up here in Canada I can only find it for 58 bucks... so I
thought I'd try and find a dealer who will sell it to me for 39 (or
less!).  I'm also interested in a copy of Night Owl 11...

So I'm looking for a good deal for OS/2 for Windows and Night Owl 11...

Thanks

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From: PETER PRASAD                           Number: 13963
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 02/06/94 10:01a
Subj: Re: SCSI VS. IDE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting David Roberts to Peter Prasad <=-

 DR> On Jan 31 15:29 94, Peter Prasad of 1:359/200 wrote:

 PP> there, to name a few (IN2000, DTC, Adaptec, Future Domain
 PP> etc etc) will co-exist with IDE in a system.

 DR> Any idea which is the best?  I just have an ISA system running OS/2.
     All the 4 mentioned above is good, of course there is quite a price diff,
     I have DTC 16bit, according to the info i obtained it works good with OS2,
     yesterday i saw a ad in the BYTE magazine ( I beleive) and saw a ad for
     Future Domain Card TMC-850A for only $65 us, not a bad deal at all,
     it's also quite widley supported.

 PP> running a SCSI  and IDE on a 486-VLB, had a little problem

 DR> Are there any differences in actual performance?

     Took a wee bit longer to boot, beacuse the SCSI has to scan for all or any
     devices in its chain (between the Host adapter and the last device)
besides
     that it works like a charm.......

     Peter............L8tr


... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: SEAN BEGGS                             Number: 13964
  To: NICK HONDA                               Date: 02/06/94 12:26p
Subj: CD-ROM Upgrading Tips and               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


You asked for suggestions/input, so here are mine:

I bought a Philips CM 206 dual-speed internal CD Rom for $299.  I don't know
what the price is, but I'm sure it will vary (the store I bought it from
says it beats any price in North America; I saw another store, nearby, selling
the identical model for $499).

The CD Rom Format is Philips/Sony format.  It's dual speed transfer is 352.8
Kbytes per second.  It has a 64K buffer/cache and a maximum burst transfer
rate 1 megabyte per second (what that means, I have NO idea. I'm writing the
company to question a few of these specs I don't understand).

Hope that's of some help!



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From: SEAN BEGGS                             Number: 13965
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/06/94 12:51p
Subj: CANADIAN CD CATALOGUE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



 BF>  BTW, "Colour, color" is shown as a single entry
 BF> exactly as I typed it in the

My dictionary (Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary - Canadian Edition" has
"colour, (Br.) color".  Its origins were not really from the Latin language,
but did have its place there.  It ultimately came from an Indo-European base
("kel" meaning to hide).  Latin version was spelled color; old French version
was spelled "colur".

English combined the two, I suppose.



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From: JW                                     Number: 13966
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/07/94 12:43a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


  Yes the Sound Blaster Multi CD works with your Mitsumi. Athough The Misumi
Audio Cable needs to Be modified, at the connector on the Sound Blaster end,
trim off the "key" on the 2 pin connector, and put the connector on 180
degrees out (backwards)..

  Enjoy

 -JW-

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From: BRIAN ELFERT                           Number: 13967
  To: CARL BENSON                              Date: 02/06/94  8:11a
Subj: Omni CD?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> 690Mb on a 74min CD as any other CD-ROM drive..
->
-> Or 580Mb on a 63min CD

Thanks, I wanted to be sure it wasn't crippled like some of them and
only read 540 mb.

Brian


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 13968
  To: TOBEY BIGELOW                            Date: 02/06/94  6:19p
Subj: Ferrets                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB>Hi, I'm 12 but I thought I'd tell you I love your Idea. I know  two
TB>people who have and love their ferrets. I like them too. I think your
TB>idea is great!

This is the CD Rom conference. Try the pet conference for ferrets.


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * Political correctness: Liberal Socialist thought control.


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From: JASON CROPPER                          Number: 13969
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/06/94  6:19p
Subj: Rebel Assault codes                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Here are al of the codes:

         EASY         Normal        Hard
------------------------------------------------------
PW#1     Falcon       Biggs         Ackbar
PW#2     Anoat        Kaiburr       Fornax
PW#3     Yuzzem       Mynock        Bespin
PW#4     Brigia       Dagobah       Kessel
PW#5     Greedo       Mimban        Organa


Enjoy!

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From: JASON CROPPER                          Number: 13970
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/06/94  6:26p
Subj: CD for Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Denis Coleman to All dated 02-03-94 ***
> Quant.     Title.
> 1       Stellar 7                               $41
> 1       Iron Helix                             $130
> 2       Mad Dog McCree                          $70
> 4       Return to Zork *b                       $60
> 2       Mantis, 21st Century Fighter            $43
> 4       Spirit of Excalibur                     $49
> 1       Conan the Cimmerian                     $48
> 4       Cybergenic Ranger                       $47
> 3       Rebel Assault                           $80
> 3       Dracula Unleashed                       $86
> 3       Day of the Tentacle                     $79
> 2       TFX                                     $79
> 1       Man Enough                              $86
> 3       Gabriel Knight                          $86
> 2       Harrier SVGA                            $86
> 1       Campaign                                $86
> 2       Cyber Race                              $86
> 3       Critical Path                          $101
> 4       Dinosaur Adventure 3D (Glasses supplied)$64
> 2       Science Adventure 2                     $64
> 2       Space Adventure 2                       $64
> 1       Quantum Gate                            $94
> 2       Protostar                               $79
>

Not many sells in the U.S.A. I bet.

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From: STANLEY SHEFF                          Number: 13971
  To: L RICHARD JOHNSON                        Date: 02/05/94 10:47a
Subj: Brainex Rombrain                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LJ>> Latest release date: 1/21/94

The *new* latest release date is 2/1/94.

 LJ>I have Rombrain and Request registered. I have been having a
 LJ>problem with Request not finding the files that were requested when I put
 LJ>the CD in

This is working correctly in the 2/1/94 version.

 LJ>Also, anyway to get Rombrain to compile a list from all CDs available?

This could take a long time, with the user waiting online. Why not create them
 yourself, then put them in your BBS file area?

 LJ>And again, any way to be able to mark files during a search
 LJ>to one doesn't have to remember where they were listed and
 LJ>what the name was?

This will be added in a future version, please be patient!

 LJ>Wonderful software and my users love it!

Thanks for the suggestions, and glad you are enjoying Rombrain!


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 13972
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 02/06/94  9:24a
Subj: Quality programmers cd                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Rick!

Thursday February 03 1994 15:57, Rick Pedley wrote to Mike Shannon:

 MS>> We're now taking pre-orders for CD Sourcebox if you're interested.
 MS>> Price is $29.

 RP> Mike, can you post a breakdown of the disk's contents by subdirectory and
 RP> Megs per? I already have Tech Arsenal but I wouldn't mind one more. I'm
 RP> particularly interested in BASIC and Visual Basic. A file list available
 RP> on a BBS would be useful too. Thanx.

I'm in the process of getting the file lists from the publisher and will make
them available once I get them.

Later,

Dave

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 13973
  To: MIKE MORGAN                              Date: 02/06/94  9:24a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

Friday February 04 1994 07:19, Mike Morgan wrote to Mike Shannon:

 MS>> |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
 MS>> |   Title:  NIGHT OWL 11            Price:  $29.90   |

 MM> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for $250,000 for using their
 MM> copyrited material, what's going to happen to me if I get caught running
 MM> this on my board?

If Disney goes after Night Owls, you can bet they'll go after SysOps running
the disc on-line next.  That's usually the sequenct of events...  ;-(

Later,

Dave

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From: JAMES WHATLEY                          Number: 13974
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/06/94  9:31a
Subj: 1994 CD Catalogue now re                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DC>Well finally the 1994 CD catalogue is now ready for
 DC>release, the cd database contains over 1100 titles with
 DC>another 200 yet to be put in but will be done by the time
 DC>everyone asks for a copy to be posted to them on 720k
 DC>floppy disks.
 DC>
 DC>leave your address here for a copy, or call

PSC 473 Box 50
FPO AP 96349-0053

Thanks!

TTYL, HAGO, CUL
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From: JAMES WHATLEY                          Number: 13975
  To: STEVEN LANG                              Date: 02/06/94  9:31a
Subj: Creative Labs cd / OS2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

While scanning the ethernet Steven was seen discussing 'Creative Labs cd / OS2'
with All:

 SL> Does anyone know if there is a driver for the creative labs
 SL> double spin internal CD player for OS/2 ?

Yep, there sure is.  The filename is and size is:

11-24-93   3:50a     13872           0  SBCD2.ZIP

The easist place to find it will probably be fernwood bbs as it went out over
one of the OS2NET filecho's.

Using it here with the Creative Lab Panasonic 563 CD-ROM under OS/2 2.1

TTYL, HAGO, CUL
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From: MICHAEL VERHAGEN                       Number: 13976
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  4:01a
Subj: Meer opslag nodig ??                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Te Koop:
Seagate ST-11900N
1700 Mb grote Scsi-2 HD 3,5 inch FH 10 Ms
Vraagprijs fl 2500,-

Telefoon 0703295247

geen Netmail!


... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: MICHELE ZUNINO                         Number: 13977
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/31/94  2:35p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drives+                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Joe!

Il giorno 25 Jan 94, Joe Rinehart ha scritto a All:

 JR> ********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
 JR> Hitachi model 3500 & NEC model 36 are available needing work @50% off

Can I have better details about these 3 models ?
Is NEC 36 a SCSI portable unit? Does it include power-supply?

What price can I get for 4 drives?
Are they guaranteed? How long?

Thank you.

Bye.
MiCChE, SysOp on CuBe [PDN]
        2:332/218, 92:100/110

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From: FELICE MINOSA                          Number: 13978
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/02/94 10:09p
Subj: !free Cd Catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Joe!


 JR>> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR>> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR>> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Pls send one to me at :

Felice Minosa
Via Lunigiana 207
19100 La Spezia
Italy

Felice

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From: LUCA SPADA                             Number: 13979
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/05/94  3:32p
Subj: NEC CDR-82 jumpers desc w               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have just got a used NEC CDR-82 without manuals.

I  know  it's  a  SCSI  drive, but I need the jumpers description (it has 6
dipswitch on the rear)

Any help welcomed!

Ciao!
Sky Luke ([e-mail])

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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 13980
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/06/94 12:10p
Subj: DRM600                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > The DRM600A is out of production now.  One of our
 > distributors I believe has one left if you hurry.  It is $689
 > without interface (cash price).
 > Contact us at 615-339-0235 at PCJ (9-9) if we can be of
 > assistance.

        Do you know if some custom duties are applicable if ordering from
Canada?  cause $689 US converted in CDN money that makes: $923 + shipping +
custom duties (if any) + 7% of GST (tax)... That's very $$$$.$$!

Thanks!

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From: KENNETH WATTS                          Number: 13981
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  1:44p
Subj: Watts Rom Disk Plus                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All,
    Watts Rom Disk Plus is now open and ready to serve all your
cdrom needs.  Our top sellers price list is available for Freq' at
1:283/689 .  Under the magic name of wattscat.  Thanks and hope to be
hearing from you soon.  Thanks
                             Ken


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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 13982
  To: MATT CRICH                               Date: 02/06/94  9:05a
Subj: OS/2 2.1 for Windows                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Am experiencing difficulties with the installation of
 > the CD-ROM based version of OS/2 2.1 for Windows.
 > Everything is OK during the diskette based portion of
 > the install procedure, but when prompted to insert CD
 > in drive, the program will not recognize there is one
 > there and returns message "Insert CD in Drive and
 > press <Enter>.  At this point the entire system hangs
 > and requires a cold boot.  CD drive is a non SCSI
 > based Mitsumi FX001D running on a DX-2 66 Mhz. with an
 > AMI BIOS. Any help/advise would be greatly
 > appreciated.

Obviously, the Mitsumi CD-ROM driver is *not* available from the installation
floppy disk.  If you check the OS/2 Installation Guide, there is a section
entitled "Installing OS/2 2.1 from a Compact Disc (CD)."  You need to locate a
copy of MITFX.ZIP which contains the needed driver for your CD-ROM drive and
follow the steps listed in the installation guide.  They are simply (1) make a
copy of the installation disk, (2) copy the .ADD file found in the above
archive to the *copy* of the installation disk, (3) edit the CONFIG.SYS file on
the *copy* disk by adding BASEDEV=<driver name>.ADD to the *end* of the file,
and (4) reboot the machine with the *copy* of the disk in your A drive.

Larry

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 13983
  To: FRANKY WONG                              Date: 02/10/94  8:27p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assult                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

07 Feb 94  15:20:00, Kevin Plummer whispered to Franky Wong...
--------------------------------------------------------

FW> Hi,
FW>
KP>    Rebel Assult Delivered to your Door in withing Three Days.
KP>                   $ 50.00
KP>         Call: [phone]  ask for Hershel
FW>
FW> I am VERY interested.  But any incompatibilities with SB16 ASP?
FW>
FW> Seems shipping included, right?
FW>
FW> Accept AE?

Yes, It will work with Sound Blaster... and the Pro.

  Shipping is included., and Sorry don't take AE...

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From: ROBERT HARE                            Number: 13984
  To: ROD SPENCER                              Date: 02/10/94  7:14p
Subj: Re: CDrom on 386-40                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well Rod...I am running a 386 40 and i have 2 sonys daisy chain together on one
card and have no problem with them and i am fixing to add another 2 sonys to
the setup this week....

haven't heard anything bad about the cdroms and 386 40's having a problem hope
this helps answer your question...?

later dude...

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From: STANLEY SHEFF                          Number: 13985
  To: ROB WESTBROOK                            Date: 02/10/94  9:56a
Subj: Brainex Rombrain                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RW>I'm running a single CD on line but I have 6 or 7 cd's. I
 RW>would like to rotate these, a different one each day. Is this possible
 RW>with Rombrain? That is, to have the file listings seperate and be able to
 RW>select the one online?

Once each CD-ROM is configured for Rombrain, all you need to do is put the
desired CD-ROM in your player. Rombrain will detect which one it is and put it
"online". If you add more players, or a changer, Rombrain will figure out what
is where for you... That's all there is to it!


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From: CRAIG MYERS                            Number: 13986
  To: JERRY THOMSON                            Date: 02/10/94  9:09a
Subj: Re: Randy White                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jerry Thomson to Craig Myers <=-

 JT> *** Quoting Craig Myers to All dated 01-28-94 ***
 >  If anyone EVER has a chance to buy a CD or anything else from Randy White
 > of San Angelo, Tx, DO NOT do it!!  After we reached an agreement on
 > this net, I sent him my money order, and never received my disc, even
 > after several mailings reminding him of the fact.

 JT> Thanks for the tip.  I sometimes worry about ordering from persons
 JT> advertising on this echo.  So far I have not had a problem and
 JT> appreciate posts like this...

     No problem.. I'm glad that you have had good luck on the echo... I am not
looking for revenge against the crook mentioned above (well, ok., maybe just a
little bit <g>), but I didn't want him to take anybody else's money.

    Regards,
    Craig


... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!"  - Bart Simpson
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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 13987
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/08/94  6:28p
Subj: English                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* Dans un message addressé à All, Pedro Vieira disait:
 >         Porquoi tout le monde ici parle anglais ? Porquoi le
 > français est discriminé ? Je pense que l'anglais c'est bon, mas
 > français c'est meilleur...

        Tu peux me parler en français à moi!

A bientôt!

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From: STEFFEN GRAETHER                       Number: 13988
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 02/10/94  8:44a
Subj: Warning virus on night ow               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>SG>Lothar says that the following programs are infected with viri on
>SG>Owl disk 10: sport21c.zip
>SG>         sf2_up.zip
>SG>Also, the data in future1.exe becomes infected eventually.
>
>I'll be the first to apologize if I'm wrong,
>I'd like to know, please.  I
>haven't seen the replication mechanism.

        Contact Lothar, I might have misinterpeted his statement. If he's not
fluent in English, send me your letter and I'll translate and pass it on.

TTYL, Steff



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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 13989
  To: JOHN BARTA                               Date: 02/09/94  9:02p
Subj: Wanted beatles cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Okay, but have you heard from Voyager, the publisher of AHDN?


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From: RICK DEMERS                            Number: 13990
  To: FRANKY WONG                              Date: 02/11/94  2:50a
Subj: Ultima VIII: Pagan                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FW>How much do you pay for Ultima VIII?  Can it read the VII part II's
  >character back?

FW>Any mailorder source to buy UVIII?


I've asked these questions and I will get back to you when I have an
answer.


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 13991
  To: LOUIS MAYS                               Date: 02/10/94  5:33p
Subj: CD-ROM and LAP TOP COMPUTERS            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LM> Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen a
 LM> lap top computer (portable computer) with a built in
 LM> CD-ROM player yet? I am interested.


Yes, I have seen one of these in a magazine. Panasonic was the first to
introduce it, it is called the CF-V21P. The drawback is that it can only read
3.5 inch CD's rather then the 'normal' 5.25 inch CDs... thus "it is only
practical for people that have a cd-recording device, or for corporate
departments dedicated to creating these custom disks"

- PC World, Jan/1994 Pg. 90

 LM> If not, how long do you think it will take the
 LM> industry to develop such a product?

I would imagne that atleast one of the many companies will soon come out with a
'useful' CDROM/NOTEBOOK soon. The one above seems to be rather limited.

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 13992
  To: ROD SPENCER                              Date: 02/10/94  5:43p
Subj: CDrom on 386-40                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RS> Is anyone using a CDRom player with a 386-40 machine?
 RS> I read several comments about the Reveal CD Rom
 RS> player being a good machine, and wanted to know if
 RS> anyone was using one with a 386-40?  I thought I read
 RS> somewhere that there were some problems with CDRoms
 RS> and that CPU.

I am not using a reveal, but, I am currently running 3 hitachi's and 1 mitsumi
all from a 386-40. No problems here!

CJK

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 13993
  To: GREG LUTHER                              Date: 02/11/94 12:31a
Subj: Re: SPECIAL                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 6 Feb 94 07:42am, Greg Luther wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    --------- }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} S U P E R  S P E C I A L
>>    B U N D L E {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{

BO>>> Panasonic 562 Int (Double Speed 320ms/300KB Transfer Rate).\
BO>>> Sound Blaster Pro Deluxe .................................. }  $279.00
BO>>> 6 CD's ..................................................../ Plus
Shipping

>>    Boris, I am very interested in this. What cd's come with it?
>>    Does it come with the drivers? Is this a good combination? Any
>>    info would be appreciated. Thank You.

The system comes complete with everything you need to either run the drive
by it's self or plug it into the SB sound card.

As for the software, so far the packages have had Groilers Encyc, Indy 500,
Lemmings, Photo Styler, Mongram and HSC Interactive for Windows.

We currently only have 10 unit's left and oncs these are gone, that will
be the end of it.

So, if your interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 13994
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/11/94 12:31a
Subj: Re: Pioneer Changers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    NOTE:  PCJ buys their Pioneer units directly from the largest
>>    Pioneer distributor in the US.

It maybe the largest dealer you buy from, but it's not the largest!

>>    I have heard that other
>>    dealers have claimed they have already sold hundreds of the
>>    1804X units already and at the present, they are just out of
>>    stock, just so they can get your order. This is just not so.
>>    Pioneer has guaranteed our distributor will be the first to
>>    have the new 1804X units when they first become available
>>    later on this month.

Again Doug, this maybe true in part, but not all true. Pioneer brought
in 500 units and shippied the majority of them out to selected dealers
all over the country. In fact, we have a standing order for 50 units right
now, NOT SOLD mind you, just for inventory purpose. We received 15 units
and they shipped to a number of customers already. We're told now that the
remain protion of our order will not ship til early or mid March and then
it will not be completely filled as the demand for these units are very
high and the supply will be limited. So, every dealer that orders any of
these units will only receive part of thier shipment in order that there
will be enough to go around.


>>    So, if you have ordered an 1804X from
>>    one of our competitor's and haven't received it, you now know
>>    why.

Now you know why......

BTW: We're not taking pre-orders for the above unit, unless our customers
insist on being placed on a wait list, are you ??


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 13995
  To: DAVID TYREE                              Date: 02/11/94 12:31a
Subj: Re: sony vs panasonic                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 7 Feb 94 07:00pm, David Tyree wrote to All:

>>    Can someone tell the differences between the Sony CDU-535
>>    and the Panasonic CR-562?
>>    I know that the Sony uses a caddie, but in my situation
>>    that is not concern.
>>    Is the Panasonic a "double Speed" or "double spin"?
>>    What about the transfer rates?
>>    If the Panasonic is "double whatever" then it seems
>>    that it would transfer at roughly twice the rate of a
>>    none "double" type.

David, the Panasonic unit offers 320ms average access time with a
300Kbps transfer rate. The system is a double speed drive and is
Kodak Multi-Session approved. It's a caddless system and you can
dasiy chain 4 units off the same controller.

We currently have a limited supply of a special bundle where you get
the drive, controller, SB Pro Deluxe and several titles for only
$279. plus shipping. If this is of interest to you, feel free to give
us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you
further.



Boris Osadciw

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From: JEAN-DANIEL GREUB                      Number: 13996
  To: DAVID HILL                               Date: 02/09/94  2:52p
Subj: Re: MEDICAL & SCIENTIFIC CDRO           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

J am interessed too about CD-Roms for medicine and biochemistry (level
University and College, for children from 12 years to 16 years).J am biochemist
of formation and actually teacher of biology and informatics
in a school for children between 12 and 16 years.
If you find something interessant, please let me a message with the references
of the CD-Roms.
Jean-Daniel Greub / College de la Florence / 16, chemin du Velours /
CH-1231 Conches / Genève / Switzerland
BBS :  CCTI [phone]  [phone]   [phone]
FIDONET : (2:301/327)
Thank you !
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From: 1                                      Number: 13997
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94 10:25p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo!

Heute ist Mittwoch und es ist 22:18.
Test!

Tschau
CB
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From: UWE MUELLER                            Number: 13998
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/11/94  7:23a
Subj: !free Cd Catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Denis

06 Feb 94 14:02, Denis Coleman wrote to Peter Bryce:

 DC> i sell cheap cdroms if your interested in a catalogue let me know.

Please send also a catalog to me:

Uwe Mueller
Untere Sonnhalde 9
CH-5035 Unterentfelden
Switzerland

Thanks
 Uwe

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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 13999
  To: JAMES WHITESELL                          Date: 02/10/94 12:16a
Subj: Re: Brain Pickin'                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting James Whitesell to All <=-

 JW> Greetings from a CD ROM virgin.  Recently purchased a 486SX-25 with 4
 JW> MEGS of RAM and 120 MEG HD.  Now going to upgrade and go CD ROM.  Will
 JW> purchase a co-processor, another 100+ MEG HD and four more MEGS of RAM.
 JW> Am looking at a CD ROM outfit advertised in the winter '94 DAK
 JW> catalog.  The price is so low it makes me nervous--$299 external, $249
 JW> internal.  I'd like some feedback on this.  Here are the specifics from
 JW> the ad:

At that price you can get a double-speed, MPC2 compliant drive.  Or get a
single speed drive with a sound card (or at least, get close).  Unless all
of the CD-ROM titles are ones you would have bought anyway, and they rarely
are.


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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 14000
  To: LAURIE BATT                              Date: 02/10/94 12:21a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC 562B                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Laurie Batt to Noah Darby <=-

 LB> G'day Noah Darby, In a message on <Jan 31>, you said :

 LB>> Laurie

 ND> I have the new Panasonic double-spin CD-ROM (the ones
 ND> Creative Labs have been selling) and I was worried about
 ND> plugging it to my CL SB-PRO because I wasn't sure if the
 ND> drivers wouldn't find the drive and use it in double spin
 ND> mode.   Any suggestions would be helpful.

You have to have new drivers for the double-spin drive.  You should
have gotten them in the package with the drive.  But, with the new
driver installed, the double-spin drive works just fine with an
SBPro.

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From: CARL POTTER                            Number: 14001
  To: JAMES WHITESELL                          Date: 02/10/94 12:43p
Subj: Brain Pickin'                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*JW> Greetings from a CD ROM virgin.  Recently purchased a 486SX-25 with 4 M*
*JW> RAM and 120 MEG HD.  Now going to upgrade and go CD ROM.  Will purchase*
*JW> co-processor, another 100+ MEG HD and four more MEGS of RAM.  Am lookin*
*JW> CD ROM outfit advertised in the winter '94 DAK catalog.  The price is s*
*JW> it makes me nervous--$299 external, $249 internal.  I'd like some feedb*
*JW> this.                                                                  *
*JW> Anyone see anything wrong with the above CD ROM configuration in this c*
*****************************************************************************
James,

     One of the most disturbing thing I have heard is that DAK no
longer owned (or had the rights to the BSR CD ROM DRIVER) the CDROM
Drivers for the BSR unit according to an earlier post.  However, if
the drive is not a Double Speed drive and the card is an 8-bit
Sound Card, I can see the price.  I purchased a Reveal 16bit
MultiMedia upgrade last month for $360 from Damark Intl. and spread
the payments out over 4 months and was impressed with what I got
and how easy it was to install.

     The system consists of a Double Speed (I think it's
Matsushida, but I know it is a really fast drive and it was
reviewed in PC Magazine for their CDROM test in this month's issue
and it not only kept pace with the new "triple speed" NEC drive and
even performed better when playing Audio CD's) internal CDROM drive
with 320ms access time and 300kb data transfer rate caddyless
system (no need to purchase extra caddies), a 16-bit Stereo Sound
Card that is Sound Blaster and Microsoft Sound System Compatible,
8watt shielded speakers, headphones with built in boom microphone,
desktop microphone with stand, and 8 titles (Microsoft Multi-Media
Pak, MultiMedia Encyclopedia, Mavis Beacon teaches Typing,
ChessMaster 3000 MPC, USA Atlas, World Atlas, Stellar 7, and King's
Quest 6).  It is fully MPC Level 2 and Kodak PhotoCD Single and
Multi-Session compatible.  For $450 you can have the above with
more CDROM Titles (1993 Guinness Records, Adventures, National
Parks, Clip Media 2SE clip art, Macromedia Action SE, and Microsoft
Works Multi-Media edition) too.

     Since this system is so compatible and easy to install
(connect the ribbon data cable, cd-audio cable, and install the
card and drive, connect the speakers, then install the software)
for both the advanced user and the novice with the included
installation video and the 24hour toll free help number and the
fact that the software controls the IRQ and other stuff so you
don't have to worry about jumpers you WILL be able to install it
quickly.  I had only one question that I called them about and that
was about an extra cable that I found in the box that I was told
the manual showed you that you can send all the normal beeps and
sounds that would normally go to your speaker to the sound card so
that they would sound better and you could controll the volume
easier.

     If you want to order, call DAMARK at 1-800-827-6767 and ask
for the Reveal 16-bit multi-media upgrade kit.  They even offer UPS
Air Express second day air for $4.95!

Carl
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From: CARL POTTER                            Number: 14002
  To: JOHN STEFFES                             Date: 02/11/94 12:19p
Subj: Cd'S For Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*JS> Also, I'm selling Rebel Assault for $40.00.                            *
*JS> consider trade for some CD-ROM games like Day of the Tentacle, Sam &   *
*JS> Max, Kinq's Quest 6 and Return to Zork.                                *
*****************************************************************************

John,

     I have King's Quest 6 and Stellar 7, would you consider
trading either for Rebel Assault and/or the Tempra Photo CD (if it
has images on it?)??  If so, please let me know here or call me at
home at [phone] and ask for Carl jr.  Thanks.

Carl
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From: ROB PERELMAN                           Number: 14003
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/11/94 11:53a
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SM>Sorry, we don't ship to the US - try one of the US based dealers.

No problem...always browsing...

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From: ZACH WALKER                            Number: 14004
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  5:03p
Subj: CD_Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I have a used 6-Disk CD_Rom.  I am willing to sell it cheep.
2: Under $800.00.  BRAND NEW CONDITION!!
3: Call me if you want to buy at 492-3693.
4:                              Thanks,
5:                                    Zach Walker
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From: BRYAN FULLER                           Number: 14005
  To: MIKE LEE                                 Date: 02/10/94  3:00p
Subj: 7TH Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I've finished 7th Guest, but just out of curiosity, what exactly is t
-> 'doorway' for in the library?  The one that sort of fades in and out
-> a bit but never really opens?  If you go to the right side of the cou
-> in the library, you just click on the wall that has an archway-lookin
-> design on it...is that significant?  Cuz I didn't need it, but is the
-> some kind of room I missed?  And how about the door that doesn't open
-> the laboratory with the microscope puzzle?  The one that when you cli
-> it, gears just turn and it appears to lock the door..but doesn't open
-> so if anyone knows or anything, please reply..
->
-> ... We now return to our scheduled messaging...
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Now that you've finished the game... Would you consider selling
it/trading it? I have Indiana Jones and Space Quest 4 both on CD . the
"talkie" versinos I think they call them.. no text, all speech N stuff.
Lemmie know. Thanks!


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 14006
  To: LINDA SATTERFIELD                        Date: 02/11/94  9:54a
Subj: Comptons's int ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Linda,

You can either pre-pay, or I can ship COD and you pick up the extra charges.
If you wish to pre-pay, my address is 8418 forest ridge, san antonio, tx 78239.
Please drop me a note on this echo, so I can hold one for you, and include a
note in the letter with what you are buying!  I have got a few more of these,
so it will be no problem.


Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 14007
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  9:56a
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: TROY ALLEN                             Number: 14008
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/09/94  8:27p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey hold the phone !!!!!
id be interested in that!!
give me an idea were your from and if its close ill come pick it up!
i live about 5 minutes from this bbs which is in Danielson.
let me know ill be glad to take one off your hands.
l8tr

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14009
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:04p
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                            Top Drawer
                That's right a great ShareWare ROM
                            for $19.00

      Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping;
      for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way.
      Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19
      bucks?

                         ANSWER

             Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

      This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
      compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
      online?

      This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
      files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
      is and can do.

      Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
      drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
      And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
      If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
      SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
      have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
      All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
      using maximum compression.
      All archives and their members have been scanned with the
      latest virus scanners.

      All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
      we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
      or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.

      And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
      commercial files and other copyright infringements.
      Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
      not the end user!!!!

    We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
    publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
    real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
    All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
    about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
    users.

    There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
    exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
    ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
    is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
    drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
    You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
    praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
    do).

    Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users, and
    thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the interface
    for these special individuals.
    Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 Mb +
    uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
    interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
    a major setup all over again!

  You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such and
  such ROM offline because of one problem or another.  We listen to these
  SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).

  Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order this
  baby online or by voice.

          The COMPUTER WORKS  Data   1-205-671-0092
                              Voice  1-205-793-4481

          THE SUPERMART BBS   Data   1-406-586-3774
                              Voice  1-406-586-8344

          PC-MONTANA BBS      Data   1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for
                                                     BIG SKY ROMs !
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14010
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:02p
Subj: Misc CD-Rom Titles                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                        Computer Works CD-Rom Sales
       Sale!               Miscellaneous Titles                 Sale!
                            Limited Quantities

The Animals - MPC           $20    King's Quest VI              $45
Battle Chess Enhanced       $30    Mantis Experimental Fighter  $20
ChessMaster 3000 - MPC      $22    Precision Mapping            $69
Desktop Publisher's Dream   $32    Sherlock Holmes Cons Det I   $20
Electronic Home Library     $28    Space Shuttle                $20
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds     $24    Star Wars Chess - New!       $22
Great Poetry Classics       $40    U.S. & World Atlas Pack      $20
Grolier MPC Encyclopedia 1  $40

Computer Works         [phone] Voice           Online Orders
 CD-Rom Sales           [phone] BBS           Visa & Mastercard
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14011
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 02/11/94  8:53p
Subj: Top Drawer Stats                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >I have been trying to get someone to respond to one of these ads for
  >this cd, I would like to have it USMAIL shipped COD cash to me

It's on the way, John.  Give me a call if you have any questions.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs

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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 14012
  To: GARY NEWMAN                              Date: 02/09/94 12:25a
Subj: T7G  & OS/2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bonjour Gary !

Thursday February 03 1994 13:46, Gary Newman écrivit à ALL :

GN> Has anyone gotten The 7th Guest to run on under OS/2 with the sound?

Definitely yes.

GN> I can
GN> get it to run great, but I'll loss the voices of the people after a bit. I
GN> have a Phillps CM 206 CD-ROM drive, OS/2 2.1, Sound Blaster Pro Genoa 8500
GN> VLB video card...

Did not happen here...

Sala kahle,                                  RVa

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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 14013
  To: JACK BURGHOUT                            Date: 02/09/94 12:27a
Subj: No audio from SB16 in OS/               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bonjour Jack !

Saturday February 05 1994 05:51, Jack Burghout écrivit à All :

JB>  I have a Panasonic 562-b CD-ROM and a SB16 Card hooked together  works
JB>  fine in Dos and Windows.

Same hardware here.

JB> The problem is in OS/2 when i play  a audio cd
JB>  the player works fine you can change the track's  control the volume
JB>  The cd-player is working  but no sound from the speakers.

I'm sure you'll hear it if you plug headphones in the CD's
front plug.

The problem is that the SB's input level for the CD is set
to 0 by MMPM. There's a program named PMMIX out there that
will enable you to correct the problem.

Sala kahle,                                  RVa

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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 14014
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/09/94 12:31a
Subj: English                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bonjour Pedro !

Thursday February 03 1994 10:54, Pedro Vieira écrivit à All :

PV>         Porquoi tout le monde ici parle anglais ? Porquoi le français est
PV>         discriminé ? Je pense que l'anglais c'est bon, mas français c'est
PV>         meilleur...

Je suis bien d'accord... :-)

Problem is this is an international echo, and, while most people
using it can read and write english, not so many of them understand
french...

BTW, if you're looking for french speaking echos, you will find
lots of them... here in France :-) or in the FrancoMedia FTN.

PV>         "This is a democratic society, not?"

:-)

PV> ╚──────────────┘                        (4:802/13)

Where's zone 4 ?

Sala kahle,                                  RVa

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 14015
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 02/08/94  6:10p
Subj: KODAK PHOTOCD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BB> BB>pictures, you think they would use the gold plated disks. They
BB> CS> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BB> CS> How can I see, if my CD's are gold plated
BB> CS> ? All the Photo CD's I have, habve a gold
BB> CS> colour, but what's the optical difference

BB>  Does Kodak really use gold-plated disks for their pictures????

Yes, they do.  :-)

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 14016
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 02/08/94  6:39p
Subj: OBSCENE CD-ROMS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DS> None at all - if degrading women or watching children do adult style "thing
DS> is your pleasure in life, so be it - I just find it personally reprehensibl

I think it's ridiculous to presume that sexuality automatically degrades
women, men, or anybody else.  Certainly on OCCASION it does, but sex
does not necessarily equate to degradation!

DS> Good for you. I've been in the Army for 20 years and don't look at
DS> saving other's rights to exploit their fellow human beings as a
DS> viable or fair thing for me to protect.

Who said that people performing in X-rated videos were being "exploited"
any more than an actor performing in a NON-X-rated film is??!!

If you go into a large adult bookshop, you're going to find an
ASTOUNDING selection of X-rated videos.  One shop here in Paris claims
to stock over 15,000 different titles (most of which have at least
several performers).  The only rational conclusion that a thinking
person can come to is that there's an _awful_ lot of people out there
that don't seem to object at all to performing for such videos.  :-)  So
obviously, not EVERYBODY considers it "exploitation".

In fact, I think the whole issue says something rather sad about some
peoples' own views regarding human sexuality.  :-(

In any case, I think there are few things less acceptable than for
uptight people to try to denigrate others just because they don't have
the same hangups.  The right to buy CD-ROMs or other materials that deal
with sexuality in a direct, upfront way should not be impeded just
because some people are too uptight to accept such an open and joyous
expression of a natural part of the human experience.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 14017
  To: THE LAWMAN                               Date: 02/08/94  6:51p
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TL>HR>BF| Last point - try finding a multi-disc CD-ROM drive with ANY non-SCSI
TL>HR>  |- interface... you won't, they don't EXIST.

TL>HR>Since Panasonic can daisy chain up to 4 drives, I presume it uses a
TL>HR>pripriatory SCSI 40 wire cable setup?

TL>Its not panasonic that can daisy chain, but the scsi card controller
TL>that you can add seven devices whether they be panasonic minichangers,

Panasonic doesn't (to my knowledge) make a minichanger, and the
Panasonic drive (the CR-562 anyhow) is chainable (4 drives) and is NOT
SCSI.

TL>scsi hard drives, scsi tape drives, etc. and they use 50 pin cables. Can

SCSI uses a 50-pin cable, I think the Panasonic drives use a 40-pin
cable.  Again, they are NOT SCSI.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 14018
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 02/10/94  1:26p
Subj: Re: JOURNEYMAN                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You might check "Any View" Screen Commander for Windows. It's a commercial
program that sells for around $50...street price. Will let you change
resolutions "on the fly". Other features include: virtual desktop, hardware
zoom, display calibrator, etc.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 14019
  To: ERIC FRANCIS                             Date: 02/10/94  1:33p
Subj: Re: PHONE BOOK CD-ROM                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To research a number to find a name you would need the "reverse" feature. Phone
disks are available for the consumer at a higher price. Tiger Software handles
PhoneDisc Reverse for $189. The business versions for telemarketing, etc. cost
many times more.

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From: JOE HOWES                              Number: 14020
  To: RICHARD KELLER                           Date: 02/07/94 10:14p
Subj: JOURNEYMAN                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Richard, how goes?

RK>We all also know that when a Windows program says it requires minimum
RK>4/8 megs of memory, that means 8/16 to run well.  Also photorealistic
RK>under Windows should tell you that a big time graphics accelerator
RK>is needed.

    You got that right...when you think about it, if each frame is, say
80k, trying to run it at 30 fps means over 2 MB per second.  Even with all
the power of a 486DX33VLB AND a Stealth accelerator, I can't even APPROACH
this.  Depressing....anyway, what I had objected to in the guy's letter I
was replying to was his suggestion that the Mac version was better than the
MPC version...run on a Mac Quadra 650 2xCD-ROM it crawled as badly as on
mine....

RK>when I started using a 2 meg CD cache.  Also make sure NOTHING else,
RK>even a small clock, etc... is running.

    What we both need is a nice Pentium....8-)




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From: JOE HOWES                              Number: 14021
  To: NICK FUNK                                Date: 02/07/94 10:17p
Subj: Critical Path                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Nick, how goes?

NF>Joe looks like you are the expert on Critical Path. I am stuck in
NF>the Packing Room. I made it there with 6 lives left, but I can't get
NF>out of this room alive. Any hints or solutions?

    If I'm thinking of the right part here (the water tower, the
crosses filled with cocaine), right after Kat looks down at the little pile
of cocaine, start pressing the right arrow till your finger turns blue, she
should start running towards the water tower.

NF>Does the notebook follow any order? It seems like it jumps around.

    Nope...it's totally random....heheh those mad Generals aren't very
good at keeping chronological diaries I guess!!!





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From: DAVID WONG                             Number: 14022
  To: DAVID TYREE                              Date: 02/10/94 11:37a
Subj: sony vs panasonic                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DT>Can someone tell the differences between the Sony CDU-535
DT>and the Panasonic CR-562?
DT>I know that the Sony uses a caddie, but in my situation
DT>that is not concern.
DT>Is the Panasonic a "double Speed" or "double spin"?
DT>What about the transfer rates?
DT>If the Panasonic is "double whatever" then it seems
DT>that it would transfer at roughly twice the rate of a
DT>none "double" type.

DT>          Thanks

The Panasonic is a double speed cd-rom with somewhere around
a 250-280ms access time and a 300k data transfer rate.  You are
correct, double speed cd-roms will transfer then single speeds.

The Sony is a 350ms drive and I am not even sure what the data
transfer rate is on this one....I have one installed in my BBS and
it is perfect for that use a little slow for anything else...

ttyl


> Dave <

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From: DAVID WONG                             Number: 14023
  To: NANCY FORD DEMETER                       Date: 02/10/94 11:56a
Subj: Advice RE Multimedia                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NFD>I'm in the market for a multimedia PC, but I don't know much about the
NFD>available.  What are some of the questions I should ask before I buy a

NFD>What are some features I should look for in a system I intend to use f
NFD>number of years to come?  What are some of the minimum configurations
NFD>have (e.g., RAM, mhz, Kb)?  Also, what are some good magazines/books w
NFD>could find out more info about multimedia?  Any advice would be greatl
NFD>appreciated.  Thanks.  Nancy

First thing I would look at is the CD-Rom.  Don't settle for anything less
then a double speed drive.  Single speed drives are just too slow for most
applications found on the market today.  Check to make sure that the
processor is upgradeable in the future, You'll want something that is at
least upgradeable to the 486DX2-66 if not the Pentium P24T.  I would also
look at getting a machine that utilized VESA local bus (VLB) controller cards.
They are relatively inexpensive and are quickly becoming the "norm" in
multimedia machines.  Most multimedia applications are designed to run in
windows so 4mb is acceptable 8mb is preferred or even 16 if you have the
budget for it.  Get a good non-interlaced monitor, it will be a lot easier
on your eyes, graphics appear sharper in most cases and they are not that
much more then a standard interlaced type monitor.

The last thing that I would look at is the warranty.  Most places offer a
standard 1 year parts and labor warranty.  Alot of component manufacturers
offer a 2 or 3 year warranty on their components and alot of PC manufacturers
out there will turn around and offer a 2 or 3 year warranty on their systems
because of that.

Hope this helps....


> Dave <

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From: THOMAS DORSEY                          Number: 14024
  To: STEVEN LANG                              Date: 02/10/94  6:54p
Subj: Creative Labs cd / OS2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 --< (06 Feb 94  17:00:00) Steven Lang wrote to Raphael Vanney
 --< on Creative Labs cd / OS2

 > If your drive is plugged to a SoundBlaster, you will find the
 > required drivers on lots of BBSes, under the name SBCD*.*, or
 > 1193SBCD.* (latest I've heard of).

 SL> Yes, I understand there is one for os/2 but I read in the os/2
 SL> instructions that the multimedia player with os/2 will not work

I used both the player in OS/2 and MS-Win (including Video for Windows)
without any problems using the SBCD driver (Panasonic Double Spin
version).
... I'd rather have G**fy make my OS than Mic***!! <censored>
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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 14025
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 02/07/94 10:17a
Subj: Gus                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hi. Its me again.
I was wondering how you worked out what version of the GUS you have. And
whats the difference between versions.

I presume the latest drivers for the GUS that you mentioned are available
on Paranomia?

Regards.
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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 14026
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 10:25a
Subj: CD Games                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 A > Guy Spy: The evil Von Maz thereatens to destroy civiliztion as we know
 A > it.
 A >          Only you can stop him in this multimedia adventure-game.
 A >                                      $42.00
 A >
 A > Inspector Gadget: Fidget and stumble along with this game and the
 A > famous
 A >                   Inspector Gadget, great animation...
 A >                                      $59.00
 A >
 A > Mario is Missing: Luigi must travel the globe to save Mario. The first
 A >                   for Mario Bros for the PC.
 A >                                     $28.00
 A >
 A > murder Makes Strange Deadfellows: A gang of spooks and spirits try to
 A >                 thwart your progress toward figuring out whodunit and
 A >                 finding the missing will in theis mystery game.
 A > Stunning
 A >                                   $45.00
 A >
 A > Rotor/Airball/Time Bandit: Three already-popular video games come to
 A > CD.
 A >                each one a high-action test of your skill. 18 missions
 A >                2 player options. Extra bonus: megabytes of GIF space
 A > ...............$27.00....for MAC...$52.00

Could someone tell me what these are REALLY like? I mean they all sound
excellent by the descriptions!

Regards.
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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 14027
  To: JOHN ALLISON                             Date: 02/07/94 10:30a
Subj: Gus/Cdrom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JA> or any tips they might have. Final question, is anyone running
 JA> a Sound Blaster and a Gravis Ultra Sound together in the same
 JA> computer ?  GUS say no but one file I have indicates you can

Well I'm running a PAS16 + GUS in the one machine. IMO its the best setup.
Like you said about the SB comp. and also only the PAS16 is supported under
OS/2.

 JA> and before I try it I would like to know it does work.  I have
 JA> a spare board and it would eliminate the patch problems for some
 JA> of the software I use.  Great native sound and great SB sound
 JA> when it works.

Well if I can get my combo to work I can't see any reason why your combo
won't.

Regards.
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From: RUSSELL CRAINE                         Number: 14028
  To: ALAN HUMAN                               Date: 02/09/94 10:04a
Subj: 7th Guest Help                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > with the following problem.  He is in the Sanctuary and
 > there's a hole
 > in the floor.  He can't figure out the puzzle.  He's been to

if it's the room I think.....

you must end each 3rd step on a purple block. start up the left hand side and
this will get you to the other end....

Seeya
Russ

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From: RUSSELL COOK                           Number: 14029
  To: GREG SHAFFER                             Date: 02/09/94  9:46p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi greg

 >  TP> VS├─>    I have Night Owl 11 in stock for $50...

 >  TP> VS├─>  + Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS
 >  TP> VS├─> [phone] (1:140/121)


 >  TP> Thats WHOLESALE?  Your price is $20.00 HIGHER than the next
 >  TP> highest price I've seen!

 > LB> Not another one ! Dont you people realise that there are
 > LB> more countries in the world than just the US. many of them
 > LB> also use the dollar as money, but its value is entirely
 > LB> different than yours.

 > Then it should perhaps be a STRICT rule that when quoting prices you
 > post where that price applies.....
Why ?? *We* know where we are <grin>

It keeps cropping up but for the land of the free you guys really *love* rules
and regs don't you ? Maybe tolerance would be a much better idea  :-)

Seriously that's what an Origin Line is for - perhaps some people need to
read a complete message before flying off the handle :-)

regards russell

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 14030
  To: ERIC HO                                  Date: 02/09/94  6:12a
Subj: wire transfer                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

EH>    Nice to meet you here. I haven't got your $$$ from
EH> Australia.

As i have mentioned in the fax, the money is somewhere is America, where i
don't know, but my bank is tracking it down and will let me know when they find
it, i have told them to redirect it back into your account.

EH>    Is CD title market hot in Australia?

you bet it is, i can't get enough cd's to meet demand.

Denis

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 14031
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94 10:44p
Subj: New Release CD Titles                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Some description of New Releases, at least their fairly new in Australia and as
many people dont know of these i hope it alright for me to post this.

Quantum Gate
The year is 2057. The earth has only 5 years to live. Drew Griffin, a joung
medical student running from a tragic past, you are stationed on Planet AJ3095
Your assignment:protecting the mining outpost which harvests the mineral
capable of reversing Earths death. Interactive and arcade action scenario with
virtual enviroment, presented as VirtualCinema interact with real people.

CyberRace
Is a revolutionary 3D combat and racing simluation where wars have been
replaced by Drivers in a warp speed race to control galaxies. Ultra-Fast
voxel landscapes, cinematic 256 color between race sequences, Ray traced
racing vehicles, digitized actors and dialogue with hundreds of
plots variations.

Super-VGA Harrier
Fly the Marine corps AV-8B Harrier II in this amazing super-fast, silky-smooth
screen updates at twice the resolution, larger visual world with sharper,
cleaner objects seen for miles. Command the fleet, all vihicles, troops and
airborne missions, use special forces to illuminate ground targets and superb
artificial intelligence to direct campaign while your flying a mission.

Man Enough
The only first person interactive social adventure with almost an hour of
live-action video:mountain bike riding, paint ball, skydiving. Stimulating
dialogue come to life through digitized speech with 320x400 enhanced vga
graphics. Go on a date with five women and if you can accomplish that then
theirs the ultimate adventure date that will take your breath away.

Gabriel Knight
A supernatural psycho-thriller featuring movie stars, only you can stop the
nightmares. Question everyone to unravel this dark mystery, explore the dark
corners of New Orleans, experience an erotic, supernatural journey and try
to survive the nightmare. Over 7300 lines of recorded voice, includes a bound
and illustrated graphic novel

Dracula Unleashed
The prince of darkness is back, driven for revenge and a lust for blood,
assume the role of Alexander Morris as you follow a grisly trail of
decapitated corpses, vampire brides and wolf tracks through the blood drenched
streets of london, can you save the ones you love

Critical Path
A nuclear holocaust has made life hell on earth. Kat a chopper pilot turned
survivalist has only one hope for escape, a waiting helicoptor on the roof of
Generalissimo Minhs maximum security facility. As Kats eyes, ears and sixth
sense you help her to safety. Lifelike 3D motion video, fluid interaction via
voice and mouse commands

Day of the Tentacle
The edisons are at it again. Dr. Freds mutated purple tentacle is out to take
over the world. And only you can stop him. Travel through time with three
outrageous characters in this wacky graphic adventure which features cartoon
style animation and over 100 zany sound effects. Full voice talkie and
digitized sound effects throughout

TFX
This has to be the best Combat Flight simulator i have ever seen, It emulates
multimillion dollar flight simulators, take control of three state of the art
fighters: Eurofighter 2000, Lockheed F-22, Lockheed F117 stealth fighter. You
have to see it to believe it, 386-33 or better.

Space Adventure 2
Learn about space with hundreds of interactive screens in spectacular 256
color VGA and stereo sound. Includes full-motion video and dramatic
simulations.

Dinosaur Adventure 3D
Their big their bad and their under your control, learn about dinosaurs. Move
though a 3D museum, bump up against a sharp clawed Deinonychus, scoot under
the belly of a hungry Apatosaurus, find yourself in the middle of a fight
between two dinosaurs in really bad moods. Can you save the dinosaurs in a
race against time from the mad scientists in the 3D world of Zoomscape.

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From: GEOFF BOWES                            Number: 14032
  To: RANDALL LEDFORD                          Date: 02/09/94  3:22p
Subj: TOOLWORKS REFERENCE LIBRA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RL>GB> GC>@SUBJECT:Toolworks Reference Library
 RL>GB> GC>N Has anybody got a fix for this problem?  I have a 486 svga
 RL>I had the same problem and called STW.  They admitted to a
 RL>problem
 RL>                   BBS          [phone]

Thanks for the info, I will try to hunt down the fix locally (Australia), if
all else fails I will try the BBS number you have given me/us.

THANKS AGAIN!

        Geoff

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From: TOM BULUM                              Number: 14033
  To: MATT CRICH                               Date: 02/08/94  1:46p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 for Windows                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-=> Matt Crich was heard mumbling to All about OS/2 2.1 for Windows<=-

 MC> Am experiencing difficulties with the installation of the CD-ROM
 MC> based version of OS/2 2.1 for Windows.  Everything is OK during the
 MC> diskette based portion of the install procedure, but when prompted to
 MC> insert CD in drive, the program will not recognize there is one there
 MC> and returns message "Insert CD in Drive and press <Enter>.  At this
 MC> point the entire system hangs and requires a cold boot.  CD drive is a
 MC> non SCSI based Mitsumi FX001D running on a DX-2 66 Mhz. with an AMI
 MC> BIOS. Any help/advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I think you might need to get the OS/2 drivers for the CDROM first. I've heard
that this is the case with Panasonic/Creative CD drives and the OS/2 install so
I'm assuming the same for the Mistumi.

Tom.


... WWhhaatt   ddooeess   dduupplleexx   mmeeaann??
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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 14034
  To: BETTY GAETZ                              Date: 02/09/94 11:04p
Subj: Re: NEC 3XI                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Betty Gaetz to All <=-

 BG> Is anyone running a PAS-16 with the NEC triple speed 3xi -(internal)?
 BG> I have a PAS-16 and am thinking about the 3xi. Any kind of info
 BG> would be appreciated. Thanks.....

Could you please let me know if someone replies to your message?
I'm looking at buying the combination but would like to here from others who
have whether it's a good combination or not.

Cheers,
Joel

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 14035
  To: DIANE PENCIL                             Date: 02/09/94  9:15a
Subj: SB Pro compat drives                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Diane Pencil, In a message on <Feb 06>, you said :

 >> Got a quick question for you all ...

 >> I got the Sound Blaster Pro plus the CD-ROM they sold with
 >> it a couple years ago.  The drive's fine but eventually I'll
 >> probably want to replace it with something better.  Question
 >> is, I don't know what's compatable with that card. Whta
 >> drives are available that'll go with this card?



 DP> That's the wrong way to buy a cd rom. The SB card will run
 DP> Mitsumi (generally considered a substandard drive), and

     THE SBPRO WILL NOT CONTROL A MITSUMI

 DP> some panasonic drives (good luck finding a state of the art

It will control most of the Panasonic proprietry types.

 DP>  drive that will work on that controller). If you got the
 DP> sb pro a "couple of years ago" then you really shouldn't
 DP> consider the controller built into the sb card. Find a

     WHY NOT ???

 DP> drive that meets your needs and is a standard SCSI device
 DP> and buy a SCSI card. It won't interfere with your SB,
 DP> you'll get a much more capable drive and probablly spend
 DP> about the same money.

You can buy the CR563 Panasonic double spin drive for a whole lot less than
buying a SCSI CDROM and additional interface. The SBPro will control it.


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 14036
  To: CRAIG MYERS                              Date: 02/09/94  9:23a
Subj: Good Dealers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Original from Tom Misel at 1:307/12


CM>>        Well, after my experience with Randy White, I don't
CM>> plan on buying anything thru this net again.  Maybe some
CM>>people could post dealers with whom they have had good

 TM> Sorry to hear about your bad experience with R. White.  Try
 TM> not to let the actions of one bad apple sour you to some of
 TM> the good deals to be found in this echo.

 TM> One business I can recommend highly to you (from personal
 TM> experience) is Starvector Software.  Look for posts in this
 TM> area from Mike Shannon.  He is a regular here so his info

There are others also
                 Terry Blount
                 Doug carpenter
                 Boris Osadciw
                 Ismail Arslangiray
There are others (apologies for those I didnt include on the list).
All regular contributers in this echo. The one advantage of buying via this
conference is that it is a two way street where you can advertise and also
voice your opinion, this serves both to keep the prices to a reasonable level
(If they are too high there will always be some commenting on the excess
prices) and ensure reasonable service (adverse remarks in here doesnt do their
business any good).
If a dealer advertised here and continued to give bad service the word would
soon spread (via this conference) and that dealer would be unable to generate
much business using this echo.
 TM> should be easy to find.

.


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 14037
  To: GREG SHAFFER                             Date: 02/09/94  9:36a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Greg Shaffer, In a message on <Feb 07>, you said :

LB>> also use the dollar as money, but its value is entirely
LB>> different than yours.

 GS> Then it should perhaps be a STRICT rule that when quoting
 GS> prices you post where that price applies.....

That is something for the moderators to decide.
You also can get a general Idea where the message is from by looking at the
origin line.


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 14038
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/09/94  9:53a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Boris Osadciw, In a message on <Feb 07>, you said :



 BO> NEW PRICE FOR THE ABOVE - Night Owl 11. $26 or both of the
 BO> above for $45. plus shipping.

>>>    I have sent you netmail in the past but got no reply . I
>>>    assume you didnt/cant recieve netmail. please (if you
>>> can)

Thanks, I did this time get your netmail message.
 BO> Sorry Laurie, tried several time to make a direct reply,

I hope by "Direct" you dont mean crash mail. My system is only available during
Zone3 ZMH . I wouldnt expect that you did this, if so then that is prob why you
didnt get through.


                                        Laurie

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From: MARK BRACKEN                           Number: 14039
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  8:11p
Subj: Alone In The Dark                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Hi All,
            Can anybody help me with alone in the dark? I am stuck a the
alter. And I don't know what to do next.
 Regards,
Mark

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From: LEO MILLER                             Number: 14040
  To: CHRIS APGAR                              Date: 02/10/94 10:25a
Subj: NEC CDR-36                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CA>However, I am only getting 80-90kb/s.  I have verifed this with 3 independ
CA> * Origin: VïΓ┼U/┤L CH/┤öS [905] 458-2260    (1:259/224)

Hi Chris,
    Had the same problem, but I'm using a Trandor T-128 card. Tried every
switch that MSCDEX had and couldn't get faster than 87K bps throughput,
23 ms read, and 352 ms access using CDTA speed test. Tried buffering to
extreme (/B:500) in EMS memory, and no improvement. Gave up, and worried
about upgrading from M$-DOS 5 to 6.2. Having fixed that, I noticed that
SMARTDRV.EXE was caching my CD-ROM. So I increased the cache to 2 meg's
and ran CDTA again: 152K bps thru, 13 ms read, and 260 ms access (my CPU
is a 486/33).
    I guess that software problems are solved by throwing more software at
them? A couple of other things I'm using is "DBF=2" for QEMM, went back to
"/E/B:10" for MSCDEX in EMS, "DEVICE=SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER" (loaded
low not high), put SMARTDRV after MSCDEX in my AUTOEXEC.BAT, and increased
my Files to 50. That combination seems to work, but I think that having
SMARTDRV caching the NEC was the biggest help.
    You mentioned 3 speed test programs; what are they? I'm looking for
some better diagnostics.
                                Hope that helps,
                                Leo Miller

... Feeling lucky???  Update your software!


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From: MATT DELCO                             Number: 14041
  To: LOUIS MAYS                               Date: 02/10/94  9:26p
Subj: Cd-Rom And Lap Top Comput               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LM>Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen a lap top computer
  >(portable computer) with a built in CD-ROM player yet?

I haven't.

LM>If not, how long do you think it will take the industry to develop such a
  >product?

I've got one idea.  All I can remember is that's its a CD, and the name
"Backpack."  It's a CD-ROM drive that plugs into a parallel port.  I've
heard it's a hair slower than a normal way of hooking up CD-ROM, but it
works.  I'm assuming it should work fine on a lap top.  I can't find a
reason why it shouldn't.  They've also recently come out with a double
speed model.

If you would like more information, just let me know, and I'll try to
find it.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14042
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 02/11/94  3:40p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPINGr              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MM> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for
 MM> $250,000 for using their
 MM> copyrited material, what's going to happen to
 MM> me if I get caught running
 MM> this on my board?

 DR> If Disney goes after Night Owls, you can bet
 DR> they'll go after SysOps running
 DR> the disc on-line next.  That's usually the sequenct of events...  ;-(

I heard that as well, and they have since recut the disc without any Disney
images.  Disney is suing the distributors as well.  I hear Warner will be suing
people for having Startrek stuff on their CDs soon and I think others are suing
for having their music available on the discs for free in WAV and VOC files,
etc.  It is going to get so we will hardly be able to get a shareware CD at
this rate <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14043
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  3:44p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CDROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
                   for ONLY $19.00

Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping.
For you who have pre-ordered, your's is on the way. Yeah,
I know.  What kind of ROM could I be getting for 19 bucks?

                       ANSWER

        Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
on-line?

This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.

Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.

All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.

And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!

We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.  Disnay has started bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
who have any of their pictures on their CDs and many of the latest
have them.  Warner will be bringing lawsuits against the publisher's
that have Startrek sound and picture files and many of the latest
shareware CDs have those.  So, Buyers and Sellers Beware!

There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel. We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).

Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users,
and thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the
interface for these special individuals.

Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 609 MB +
compressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!

You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such &
such ROM offline because of one problem or another. We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price).

Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read below and you can order
this baby on-line or by fax (24 hours) or by voice (9-9 EST Mon-Sat).

*** PCJ COMPUTING ***   Data  -  1-615-478-2890   We stock 700+ titles
  All major credit      Fax   -  1-615-479-1047   Lowest prices around
  cards accepted        Voice -  1-615-339-0235   Download BIGSKY2.ZIP
  with no surcharge     Orders-  1-800-547-7817   for the files list.
  (No CODs)           Internet-  [e-mail]
                      Listserv-  Send request to [e-mail]
                                 Send SUB CDROM-L NAME
                     Compuserve-  [e-mail]
                      **  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME **

File stats for the BEST NEW SHAREWARE CD-TOP DRAWER for 1990 to 1994:
    File   %    Apx  'K'   %            File   %    Apx 'K'    %
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====
90     0  0.0%         0  0.0%    91       1  0.0%       100  0.0%
92     6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%    93   3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
94   144  4.8%    48,607  8.0%          ==== =====  ======== =====
----  Total Files:  4,174   Total Approx 'K' Bytes:  609,523  ----
Duplicate Files Comparison - Top Drawer versus other popular CDs:

Big Sky 1 - 0%                  So Much Shareware # 3 - 2.4%
Cream of the Crop # 2 - 11.7%   Software Vault Gold (# 3) - 10.3%
Nightowl 10 - 12.4%             Call PCJ at 615-339-0235 if you
Nightowl 11 - 6.4%              need a file comparison with any

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From: RICHARD AIRD                           Number: 14044
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/07/94 10:28a
Subj: UK Cover Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi ALL

Just to let you all know that Europress will be lauching
Multimedia and CD-Rom world on the 28th of March, which will
include a free CD-Rom each issue. 90% PC + 10% CD-i, MAC etc.
No price yet, but I expect it to be £ 4.95.

Future Publishing will be lauching CD-Rom Today on the 31th of March
with a cover CD-Rom, priced at £ 4.95. No other details yet.

Also Europress again will be doing a special version of PC-Today
for April, May and June, with a cover CD, no price yet. But on the
first one will be the trail version of Harvard Graphics, plus
250mb of 'feature packed software guaranteed to appeal to a wide
variety of readers'. April issue on sale on the 10th of March.

With Europress' PcHome already giving away cover CDs, it looks like
my CD-Rom collection might grow abit !

byee
Richard

... Tra  la   la le   la le dum de dum la    le lum   de   - Musical ASCII
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From: ADRIAN WONG                            Number: 14045
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/06/94  9:33p
Subj: CD-ROM SWAP                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Who wants to swap the DUNE CD for something?
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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14046
  To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN                         Date: 02/04/94  5:02p
Subj: SBpro & Mitsumi's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nicholas,

 NG>understand your labs are currently awaiting a new
 NG>modification from
 NG>Singapore to establish the acid test!

Should be interesting!

All the best with the H\w.

See ya

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From: MARK WARD                              Number: 14047
  To: MARK BILLINGE                            Date: 02/08/94  7:55a
Subj: CD ROM audio cable                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mark,

MB> So... you have Monkey Island on CD eh?  Is it a full talkie?
MB> I just finished Day of the Tentacle, the CD talkie, and it's
MB> very good indeed.

Monkey Island 1 CD isn't talkie :-( but the toons and the odd sound effect are
brilliant.  I was surprised how good the games ws, I expected it to be more
dated, un fact I'm enjoying it every bit as much as I did Monkey Island II.

I finished Tentacle before the talkie came out so I never had the pleasure of
that one.  I have not yet bought Sam & Max as I'm determind not to do the same
with that.

MB> Would you be interested in joining my CD
MB> swapping service?  If so, netmail me your voice number, a
MB> list of CDs you may want to swap and also a list you may
MB> want to swap for.  Oh, and the type of CDs your interested
MB> in..

I tend to be veey selective with which CD's I buy and I like to keep my
collection, thanks for the offer though.

Mark.

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From: MARK WARD                              Number: 14048
  To: ADAM KNOWLES                             Date: 02/08/94  8:14p
Subj: Re: Sony CDU-31A-02...silica are ok!    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Adam,

* In a message originally to Tony Dunn, Adam Knowles said:

AK> BUT, if it's for a bbs, the dual speed won't make ya bbs ANY
AK> faster at all.
AK> A 28.8k modem slows down a SINGLE-speed cd-rom!

Many BBS's (RA BBS's especially) transfer the data from the CD to Hard Disk
before tranfer begins, this is so that multi-line BBS's with multi-stacking
CD-Rom drives don't have problems.  I assume that the faster transfer rate of
a multi-speed CD-Rom drive will actually be beneficial because of this.

Mark Ward.

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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14049
  To: RICHARD JONES                            Date: 02/07/94  6:16p
Subj: controlling cd-roms                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Richard,

 RJ>I`m writing a program in visual basic to control a cd drive
 RJ>to play audio cds. Does anyone know how to access it.

It's easy to do with MCI Commands... I've got a very comprehensive Windows
help file which outlines all of the MCI comands and their syntax and use. Feel
free to d\load it.

See ya

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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14050
  To: STEVE DICK                               Date: 02/07/94  6:18p
Subj: Sound Boards                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Steve

 SD> DB> well i have the sound blaster echo here if thats any good ?
 SD>What is the echotag and is it backboned or if not where it

The SB_UK echo has just been backboned! Feel free to d\load it from your hub.

See ya

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From: TIM BURCHAM                            Number: 14051
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/08/94  5:14p
Subj: MONSTER MEDIA 93 NOW IN!                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

> NIGHT OWL 11 * Yes, it's here.
MS >BBS-ready...........................$29.90

MS > STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER *
MS >SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
MS > 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) **** VISA * MC *
MS >AMEX * DISCOVER

Do you send out COD?

Tim

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From: TIM BURCHAM                            Number: 14052
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/08/94  5:16p
Subj: PRE-ORDER PIER 4!                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS > PIER 4 * What WILL be the hottest new shareware CD of
MS >1994..........$29.00

MS > STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
MS >ORDERS: 509-457-2892
MS > FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 *
MS >VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

Do you accept COD's?  Also, how much of Pier 3 will be on Pier 4?

Tim

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From: JAY SHILSTONE                          Number: 14053
  To: MATTHEW WHITE                            Date: 02/11/94 11:17a
Subj: Education CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>What are some good Educational Cd's out there?

MW>Are there any other reference cd's that are good?

I bought Learning Adventure. It only has about 200M of stuff but it was
only $8.00. Kludgey interface. Most of the popular CD's have education
stuff as well (Night Owl, etc.) Would also like to find good education
CD's.

Jay Shilstone
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 14054
  To: LON LENTZ                                Date: 02/10/94 10:18a
Subj: Re: Hitachi CD Rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lon Lentz wrote in a message to Terry Blount:

LL>  Excuse me for asking, but I have a CDR-3500 and am running
LL> Hitachia.sys  with it. Is this the right one?

Yes.

LL> And is there a
LL> driver that I can run with   it that will allow me to set
LL> the IRQ for it?

The IRQ is set on the controller card.  You have options for IRQ 5, 3 or none.
Set it to none.

LL> The Todd card that I am using  has jumpers
LL> for interrupts, but no way to tell the driver where it's at.

Don't need to.

LL>  So right now I am running it without one and believe it is
LL> causing a slowdown  under Windows.

No... that's just Windows.

LL>  Also, having bought the drive used, it has a hole drilled
LL> in the front   plate, giving access to a set screw. Would
LL> you happen to know what the screw  is for?

Probably the manual caddy release.  If the caddy gets stuck
inside you can manually release it by turning that screw.

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From: JIM TORLAI                             Number: 14055
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 02/09/94 10:04p
Subj: BSR cd-rom drivers                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Don,
  The lastest (1/14/94) Damark catalog has a cd rom drive on the back cover
that might be a BSR. It's a caddy drive, with a white face plate. It's there
Item # B-4410-371516. Their number is 1-800-729-9000. They  call it Model No.
CM205 which sounds like a Philips/Magnavox model.   But it might  be worth a
call.
                                                  J. Torlai

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From: JIM LEENAN                             Number: 14056
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 02/10/94  7:10a
Subj: Re: Chess CD-Rom                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JU>
JU>        If you are a serious chess player, check out _ChessMaster
JU>        3000_ .  There is an almost infinite variety of difficulty
JU>        levels you can set for playing.  You can play against Master
JU>        Chess players, or against an opponent YOU design (as well
JU>        as another human, of course).
JU>
JU>        You can play "in" or "watch" the top 150 chess games in
JU>        history.  There's lots more...and it's worth checking it out.
JU>
JU>        Happy mating------------John

Hi John, thanks for the reply.

Actually I already do have ChessMaster 3000 on CD.  I like playing chess
a lot and thought some of the more animated chess games like Battle
Chess, Maniac Chess, or Star Wars Chess just might add a little
entertainment to the game and was wondering if any of these were any
good.

Thanks again, Jim

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 14057
  To: GREG SHAFFER                             Date: 02/11/94 10:58a
Subj: Night Owl 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  GS> LB> Not another one ! Dont you people realise that there are
 >  GS> LB> more countries in the world than just the US. many of them
 >  GS> LB> also use the dollar as money, but its value is entirely
 >  GS> LB> different than yours.
 >  GS>
 >  GS> Then it should perhaps be a STRICT rule that when quoting prices you
 >  GS> post where that price applies.....
 > LM>
 > LM> Try convincing the Americans who think the US dollar is the
 > LM> *only* currency  in existance.

 > Doesnt look to me like an American problem......But
 > rather the folks who post $$ amounts from other
 > countries and dont indentify it as such.

Your response is that of the *typical ugly American.* Everyone else should bend
to me and my needs, is the typical statement of an ugly American.  Well, in an
international echo such as this one, that is unworkable. Either *all* and I do
mean *all* specify the country whose currency they are using or none of them.
There can and should be *no* exception for the United States of America. We
have enough trouble separating US dollars from Canadian dollars from Australian
dollars in this echo.

Larry

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From: TONY D. BERRY                          Number: 14058
  To: MARK BRACKEN                             Date: 02/11/94 12:26p
Subj: Alone In The Dark Hints                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was noticing that you needed some assistance on good ol' Alone In The Dark.

First Hint: The creature in the library can be killed with the "curvy" knife
that you get in the secret room in the back of the library. Use the book you
get earlier in the game and put it in the slot on the bookshelf near the back
corner of the library. Look for it.

Second Hint: The pirate can be killed with the sword you get from the knight
in the hall. Kill him by throwing the heavy statue at him. The best way to get
the pirate is to back him into a corner and keep swingin'!

Third Hint: The garden holds nothing except the arrows. Come in the back
(behind the statue), search it, take the arrows and back right out. DON'T
PAUSE!

Tony D. Berry
[phone] voice
[phone] BBS

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From: RICHARD KELLER                         Number: 14059
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 02/10/94  1:29p
Subj: JOURNEYMAN                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JW>I have Journeyman and a Viper... I also have A LOT of programs in Windows,

Thats what I have.

  >and use Norton Desktop.  I do a lot of HI-RES ( 1024 x 768 or better )
  >morphs, ray-traces, etc. in Windows, and thus run Win in 1280 x 1024 x 256

I also do some hi-res viewing but I normally run Windows at 800x600x256
and just switch up to 16.7m colors or 1024x768x65k when needed.  I used
to run at 1024x768 but found that the majority of Windows program do not
look correct that way.  Most CD programs look way better at 640x480 or
800x600 or the pictures are too small.


  >mode.  I cannot get Journeyman to run under this res ( I know it likes
  >640 x 480 ), and do not want to screw up my whole desktop every time I want
  >to play by switching graphics modes.  Any advice?

I am not sure about 1280x1024 but it DOES run at 1024x768x256, it just
gets real small.

When I switch up to hi-color or hi-res modes, I do not adjust anything.
Say I switch upto 1024x768x65k from 800x600x256, I just leave everything
off center on the screen and just make whatever program that I am using
full screen.  Then it looks ok.  Then when I am done, I just switch back
modes.  That way I don't have to constantly fool with centering and
adjusting.  It might not be the most pleasing to the eye but it's easy.


I am on the last Journeyman task.  I got prepared (travel card, bio
suit, chips, went to work).  Then I went back in time twice already to
fix things and do the puzzles. Now I am at the last section.

A few things are difficult and one had me stumped for a few days but I
figured it out.  NOTE:  There also seems to be a bug at a very important
point in the game.  It took me many tries to make it work right.  Not
sure if it's my CD or the game itself but when you travel back in time
to stop the assassination, when you pull the high power electrical cable
from the box to electrocute the robot assassin, it gives "frame, program"
errors and starts running real slow.

The trick is to NOT restart the game and hope that it works.  If not
just keep trying it until it does. BTW: if it doesn't work, it will not
let you turn or retreat and you are blasted with this red ray and
killed.

So far going to the Mars colony is the best part.  Super graphics and
fun puzzles.


I can help with most parts of the game but the best advice that I can
give is to SAVE after doing anything, pay close attention to the small
videos or you will be lost when time traveling and not know what to do,
do not have anything else running under Windows and make sure to use a
1-2 meg cache.  The cache made the game run way faster.



                                   Richard Keller

 * QMPro 1.51 * 1024x768x256... Sounds like one MEAN woman!
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From: RICHARD KELLER                         Number: 14060
  To: JAMES WHITESELL                          Date: 02/10/94  1:55p
Subj: Brain Pickin'                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JW>External caddy-based high speed 390 millisecond, full 150+ KBS MPC Multimedi

This does not seem like a double speed cdrom and is way to SLOW to be
useful unless it is given to you free.  I would not pay more than $100
new for the above.  You can get a 240ms access cd, 335k+ transfer speed
for under $300 or a 300ms access cd and 300K transfer speed for under
$200.

  >Brand name is BSR.

This is my own personal opinion but I would never buy a BSR (DAK) cd rom
player UNLESS I have no other choices.  Sure their fancy full page color
ads and free CD's make it look good but the cd players in DAK are
normally dogs UNLESS you buy the higher priced ones.  I KNOW as I looked
there also before buying mine.


JW>This will be a starter system and will be sold on the local market in
18 to 24

JW>Anyone see anything wrong with the above CD ROM configuration in this contex

It sounds like a so so starter system but in another 2 years its going to
be considered slow as molasses.  Even fully loaded it will not bring
more than $500-800 if your lucky and find a nieve computer novice.

If you plan on making a buck on this and not keep it for your own use,
MY advice would be to stop where you are now and don't bother adding
what your going to as you will NEVER get it back.  If your going to keep
this as YOUR own home system, get a better CD-rom, forget the
co processor, add 16 megs and not trap yourself by adding 4 more, and
forget about buying anything from DAK, DANMARK and COMB.


                                Richard Keller

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 14061
  To: JOHN ZELENKY                             Date: 02/11/94  4:16p
Subj: Backpack cd-rom drive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-02-94  03:42 John Zelenky said something about Backpack cd-rom drive, to
which I reply:

 JZ> I have no experience with CD-ROM's and am in need of any information
 JZ> or personal experiences/opinions about MicroSolutions Backpack drives.
 JZ> I'm leaning in this direction because I don't have an empty slot for a
 JZ> controller card.  It is my understanding that a card is not needed
 JZ> with these units.

We have one at work, and it works just fine. It's very easy to move from
one computer to another. It runs from the parallel port, but you can
plug your printer into the drive so you don't lose the use of a parallel
printer while using the cdrom.


... That tagline is TRUE ->  <- That tagline is FALSE
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From: SHAWN STOUTEN                          Number: 14062
  To: MATT CRICH                               Date: 02/11/94  6:44p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 FOR WINDOWS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GN> MC> Am experiencing difficulties with the installation of the CD-ROM
GN> MC> based version of OS/2 2.1 for Windows.  Everything is OK during
GN> MC> the diskette based portion of the install procedure, but when
GN> MC> prompted to insert CD in drive, the program will not recognize
GN> MC> there is one there and returns message "Insert CD in Drive and
GN> MC> press <Enter>.  At this point the entire system hangs and
GN> MC> requires a cold boot.  CD drive is a non SCSI based Mitsumi
GN> MC> FX001D running on a DX-2 66 Mhz. with an AMI BIOS. Any
GN> MC> help/advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Do you have the mitsumi drivers?  I have seen on our local IBM board a
bunch of files for using a Mitsumi CD-ROM with OS/2.  I believe native
OS/2 support for CD-ROM is SCSI only - have a look for an IBM board (the
numbers should be listed somewhere in the OS/2 documentation).

Shawn.


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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 14063
  To: DEALERS IN EUROPE                        Date: 02/10/94  1:37a
Subj: Dr.CD-ROMs                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We are looking for dealers in Europe.....

        * Dr. Windows II         -   500+ MB of Windows shareware
        * Dr. Games for Windows  -   180+ ready to play games 4 Windows
        * Dr. Games for DOS      -   60+ ready to play games 4 DOS
        * Dr. Shareware II       -   640+ MB of latest shareware
        * Dr. Fonts for Windows  -   2000+ True Type fonts 4 Windows
        * Dr. Cliparts           -   3000+ Clipart files w/TIFF, PCX & GIF
        * Dr. OS/2 Gold          -   OS/2 shareware. Dated in Jan. 1994
        * Dr. Music Lab          -   Hundreds of sample music + utilities
        * Dr. Communication      -   Utilities for LAN, BBS, protocols
        * Dr. Graphics           -   Images, Converters, Utilities
        * Dr. Reference          -   Programmer's guide for A to Z

        Above titles are shareware
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        * Sound Factory I    -   Professional MID, WAV files
                                 Playable from regular CD player
                                 Special sound effects
                                 Best choice for bundling with Sound Card
        * Sound Factory II   -   Version 2

        * AVI Library        -   Professional video clip for "Video for Win"

        Abvove titles are commercial software

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Call 408-748-9988x18 for more detail     (Best resource for CD titles)

Voice : 408-748-9988
Fax   : [phone]
BBS   : 408-453-6250
Fido  : 1:143/88

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From: JOE SITKO                              Number: 14064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  9:52a
Subj: Mitsumi 2x &SB Pro                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone out there help me out?

I have a Soundblaster Pro along with the Mitsumi double speed CD Rom
drive.  Everything works well when I'm playing computer CD games, but I
can't play audio CD's through it.  Everything seems to be working....but
no sound.

I used to have a regular soundblaster and a Mitsumi single speed drive
and I remember I had to repin the audio cable, must I do this also to
the new drive and soundcard?

Thanks, in advance for the assistance..........
           Joe Sitko on Thursday, 02/10/94 09:52:39
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From: ED HARFORD                             Number: 14065
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  8:27a
Subj: CD-ROM Player w/ Grey Faceplate?        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm hoping to purchase a CD-ROM Player within the next few weeks, but am having
a hard time finding exactly what I want:  Double Speed (200ms) internal with a
GREY faceplate (not the usual white or beige).  Anyone know where I might find
one at a good price (i.e., about $200)?

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From: JODY LUTKER                            Number: 14066
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/11/94  6:37p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


-=> Giving a little highlight of Denis Shanahan talking to Pedro Vieira <=-

 PV> Few days ago I took a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM (345ms) but I
 PV> cannot connect it to my Sound Blaster Card. I heard there's a
 PV> Sound Blaster called MULTI CD, I wanna know if it really
 PV> works.

Pedro,
You can run a "y" cord as an alternate.  It usually comes with the
sound card.  Its two rca plugs going to an 1/8" plug in stereo.  I
did this until I wired it to my older sound blaster card.

Later, Jody 8-)

... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: ANDREW BOLMARCICH                      Number: 14067
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/11/94 12:33a
Subj: Mac Cd-Roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hey Mike,
Thanks for the info.  Do you guys have a catalogue?

Andrew

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From: ANDREW BOLMARCICH                      Number: 14068
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/11/94 12:35a
Subj: Mac Cd-Roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey John,

I'll give them all call, Thanks.

Andrew

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From: EDWARD FOSTER                          Number: 14069
  To: ROD SPENCER                              Date: 02/11/94  7:48a
Subj: CDrom on 386-40                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Rod,

Wednesday February 09 1994 02:51, Rod Spencer wrote to All:

 RS> Is anyone using a CDRom player with a 386-40 machine?  I read several
 RS> comments about the Reveal CD Rom player being a good machine, and wanted
 RS> to know if anyone was using one with a 386-40?  I thought I read somewhere
 RS> that there were some problems with CDRoms and that CPU.

I two such machines, one for the kids with a PAS16 & Texel drive hooked to it
with no problems..Works beautifully. The other 386/40 is my system which i run
a BBs on and it presently is supporting the 8 CD-Rom drives that I use with the
RomBrain CD-Rom door..Again, works beautifully..I truely don't see you having a
problem with this CPU.

 RS> -+- FMail 0.96Γ
 RS>  + Origin: Software Heaven [phone] Tampa, Fl (1:377/41)


                                 Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs "

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From: TOM WALLACE                            Number: 14070
  To: TOM GUELKER                              Date: 02/11/94  9:53p
Subj: Re: 2 Mitsumis                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I run 3 Mitsumi CD readers on my BBS each using their own controller.
-> Here are the pertinent sections of my AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS for
-> your inspection. The setup works great like this...
->
-> My AUTOEXEC.BAT
->
->   C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /E /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /D:MSCD003 /M:1
->
-> My CONFIG.SYS
->
->   DEVICE=C:\DOS\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:1 /I:2
->   DEVICE=C:\DOS\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:304 /A:0 /M:1 /I:3
->   DEVICE=C:\DOS\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD003 /P:308 /A:0 /M:1 /I:5

Mucho thanks to you and the other helpful folks who responded to my plea
for help!!  I'm now using almost the same setup as you described above
with great success. Everything seems to work great!

Tom


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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 14071
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/12/94 12:38a
Subj: Re: Mpc Title Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Reply to msg originally in CD Rom

 -=> Quoting John Foster to Daniel Tsui <=-

 DT>I have the following MPC Titles for sale in stock. These are our specials t
 DT>the BBS community whilst stocks last, so please mention this ad! (The price
 DT>are in $AUD.)

 DT>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60
 DT>   - full length movie + much more!

 JF> Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so "special"
 JF> considering CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this same CD for $29.95 in
 JF> both PC and MAC versions. What gives?

Hi, John. I suppose you didn't understand what you read in Daniel's ad
you quoted. He plainly stated that the prices are in $AUD. This means
Australian dollars. Check the exchange rate. It's like comparing apples
to oranges to compare his price to a US quoted price.


... Cheers!                 -Mac-
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From: JOHN ZELENKY                           Number: 14072
  To: RICK DEMERS                              Date: 02/11/94  5:00p
Subj: Backpack CD-ROM drive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RD>And just to let you know, before I used it, I never thought much about a
RD>tape backup, but now, I've gotta have one!!

Thanks for the info, I think I'm going to look for one of these.

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From: LEE HENNEY                             Number: 14073
  To: JAMES WHITESELL                          Date: 02/11/94  3:22p
Subj: Brain Pickin'                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting James Whitesell to All <=-

 JW> Greetings from a CD ROM virgin.  Recently purchased a 486SX-25 with 4
 JW> MEGS of RAM and 120 MEG HD.  Now going to upgrade and go CD ROM.  Will
 JW> purchase a co-processor, another 100+ MEG HD and four more MEGS of
 JW> RAM.  Am looking at a CD ROM outfit advertised in the winter '94 DAK
 JW> catalog.  The price is so low it makes me nervous--$299 external, $249
Jim, I got the internal version of this from DAK about 2 months ago.  I
installed it in my 486SX-25 with 8 meg of RAM & 340 MG hard drive (I traded
the 130 meg that came with it, don't bother to buy "another 100+" drive,
just find a good dealer & trade->upgrade, you'll be happier.)  I love the
drive/sound card combination.  As you can see from the specs in the ad, it
isn't the fastest nor fanciest combination on the market.  But, It works
very well for home, encyclopedia viewing, game playing, general CDROMing.
If you plan on playing much full motion video or expect concert level sound
from the 8-bit sound card, this is not the set up for you.  Other than that,
It works just fine.


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From: ANDREW SEE                             Number: 14074
  To: TONY SAUNDERS                            Date: 02/10/94  7:05p
Subj: Wavetable sound                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS>I think I may go the GUS way.A ROM based wavetable appears to be a bit

Yep, using ROM is like having a Laserprinter that can only use it's built in
fonts.
TS>more restrictive than a RAM based one such as a GUS.Is it a lot of
TS>hassle
TS>having to load the patches in all the time.

No, you don't load the patches manually, it is done automatically, on the fly.
You don't even notice.

TS>I noticed your origin is in Sydney,where did you buy your GUS from?
TS>There
TS>doesn't seem to be an abundance of suppliers around.I know of one in
TS>Perth
TS>but thats about it.

I bought mine mail order, from Aussie Discount software in melbourne.

CheerZ

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From: BERT PATTERSON                         Number: 14075
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/09/94  9:55p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI PROBLEM READING D           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Mine won't read OS/2 Hobbes CD-Rom Oct 1993.

 BF> My LU002 will read that disc fine - I just tried it.
 BF> Have you tried cleaning the disc?

Thanks for the comment, but I have tried cleaning the disk.

The disk works in other brands of CD-ROM drives.

I took mine back to the retailer after I send my first message and it was
sent to the distributors. It was away a week and when I picked it up it had
Been changed for another one. (Don't know if the replaced one was new or
second hand).

It worked OK for half a day then it started to not read the disk again.
It always reads all my other disk with out fail.
Sometimes it works OK for a few times and just when I think it has
misteriously fixed itself it won't read the HOBBES disk again.
It appears that when it reads the disk and I leave that disk in the drive it
than boots OK with the disk in and also reads OK.
Almost that the drive is not spining up quick enough.
I have tried the drive on another computer with the same problems.
I wonder if there is a later driver for it, although that's not the answer
as it does the same when I run OS/2 or DOS, which use different drivers.

It certainly has got me puzzled, I know the answer don't run OS/2 and use
the HOBBES disk as a frizby.

Cheers.

... It's backed up on CD-ROM somewhere!!!

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From: GLENN BRADY                            Number: 14076
  To: JOHN COSGRIFF                            Date: 02/09/94  2:09a
Subj: Fax Times                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

And much of Madness, and more of Fax Times
And Horror the soul of the plot.
 Edgar Allan Cosgriff, c. 02-07-94 11:57

JC> I
JC>am beginning to think it is all a test and there is a reward waiting in
JC>heaven for all those that manage to get fax/modems/software functioning
JC>properly :-)

If someone can get the Fax/Modems and software working O.K. here on earth,
I suspect the reward will be pretty great.

I have had trouble with my modem and WinFax Pro 3.0, mainly receiving multi
page faxes. I upgraded to Windows WG 3.11, and the inbuilt fax software
seems to receive better than WinFax.

A bit of trial and error seems to be the go.

Hooroo for now
                 ?Glenn B.?

Internet: [e-mail]

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From: PETER BRYCE                            Number: 14077
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  3:45p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Codes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

My thanks to the many people who sent me the Rebel Assault passcodes. I now
have them all as well as the "cheat" mode codes. Finally I've been able to see
what I've been missing!
....thanks again to the many. (you know who you all are) :-)
...seyalater.

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From: PETER BRYCE                            Number: 14078
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/10/94  3:58p
Subj: Importing CD's to Oz                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This message is directed to Australian CD users.

Can anybody tell me what the current situation is with importing CD's from
overseas into Australia for private use. I'm talking here about 1 copy each of
a title, not commercial multiple titles. Or possibly 2 copies if a friend also
wanted one at the same time.

* What is the amount of import duty due?
* What if I >shyly hides under table< wanted to import an adult rated title?
(I am well over 21)
* What is the preferred method of payment used for transactions with companies
 overseas. (also through this echo)
* Are there any CD restricted material that the Customs won't allow in. (such
as "Build Your Own Atomic Bomb" etc.)
* Has anyone been hassled by the Customs over CD imports?


It may interest overseas readers to know that the Australian Customs Service
has been through a review process and the decision is, "Scrap it all and start
again with a new Customs service." !

Any help will be appreciated.
....seeyalater.

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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 14079
  To: GARY NEWMAN                              Date: 02/09/94  2:53p
Subj: T7g  & Os/2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 02-03-94 Gary Newman wrote to ALL...

 GN> Has anyone gotten The 7th Guest to run on under OS/2 with
 GN> the sound? I can get it to run great, but I'll loss the
 GN> voices of the people after a bit. I have a Phillps CM 206
 GN> CD-ROM drive, OS/2 2.1, Sound Blaster Pro Genoa 8500 VLB
 GN> video card...

Yeah I have. I just ran it from a DOS Full Screen Session. I didn't bother
with any settings. Everything worked normal.
Is your drive 1x?

I've got 486dx33 Toshiba 3401B, OS/2 2.1, PAS16, 8MB RAM, ATI GUPro EISA 2mb.

Regards.
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From: DANIEL TSUI                            Number: 14080
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 10:42a
Subj: Night Owl 11 IN STOCK!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Night Owl 11 has just arrived.
In stock & ready for shipment.

$48.00 AUD

Note the above price is a BBS special so please mention this ad.

Stepdando Pty Ltd
Ph: 07-371-2885
Netmail: 3:640/297.10

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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 14081
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/11/94 10:24p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP 2: $25                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

On Feb 08 01:32, Mike Shannon wrote:

 >            |  Title:  CREAM OF THE CROP 2         Price:  $25

 >      * 654mb total * Virus-scanned with the LATEST scanning
 > software     * FILES.BBS support * 5000+ total files * 14mb
 > of source code     * 0% internal duplicates

One of our customers reported finding several internal dupes on his first look
- but with different archive names.  He reported this by email without a list
so I can't provide details.  If it was earth-shatteringly-important I would
follow up on it but....

Cheers,
Steve.

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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 14082
  To: LEE GILLAN                               Date: 02/11/94 10:53p
Subj: Re: Catalogues                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Feb 08 15:02, Lee Gillan of 1:252/[e-mail] wrote:

 >  If you get a chance, please send me a catalogue....

Sorry Lee,

I doesn't make sense for us to ship to the US.  Since we import from the US
we'd be just making the shipping companies rich.  Try Mike Shannon or Boris
Osadciw - they have good reputations.

Regards,
Steve Mann (Australia)

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14083
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  1:27a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

600MB's+, 4700+ files,  BRAND NEW RELEASE - 1993 - 1994  November - January.

Thousands of the most recent shareware programs and resources available from
around the world.  Includes a user friendly Software Vault Librarian that will
help you find and use what you need easily and quickly. (Games. Sounds, Sound
Blaster & MIDI, Graphics, MultiMedia, Word Processing, Fonts & Clip Art,
Pictures & GIFs, Spreadsheets, Educational, Database, Ham Radio Utilities, LAN
Utilities, BBS Utilities, and many more.)
                    SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM - $18.00
    ORDERS ONLY!! 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  1:27a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 BUNDLE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $26.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $45.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 14085
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/12/94  8:31a
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE C                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>           That's right a great SHAREWARE ROM
DC>                   for ONLY $19.00

Hi Doug,
     Are You Shipping TOP DRAWER now.

Thanks

Tom Miller
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From: AL AGEE                                Number: 14086
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  6:27p
Subj: Custom cds                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I'll put 640mb of your data on an ISO 9660 standard CD for $49. If you don't
have a tape drive, I will restore from 1.44mb floppies for $0.25 each.

Advantages include:
- Speed       - My 10ms HD is only four times faster than CD. - Cost        -
CD costs $49, tape $100, 1.4mb floppy $200. - Security    - It can't be
changed. No virus threat. - Convenience - It's like adding another hard drive.

  o Make your own shareware disk.
  o Organize those huge graphics files.
  o Put your BBS on CD instead of buying another hard drive.
  o Distribute your data to several sites.
  o Back up your entire LAN or BBS.

Send QIC-80 or QIC-40 DC2120 tapes and cashiers check to: Allen Agee, 52 Sleepy
Hollow Rd, Andover NJ 07821. If you have questions, call me voice at
[phone] evenings.
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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 14087
  To: STEVE GOYER                              Date: 02/11/94  7:37p
Subj: OS/2 for Windows                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bonjour Steve !

Saturday February 05 1994 23:15, Steve Goyer écrivit à All :

SG> I'm looking for OS/2 for Windows on CDROM.  I heard the v2.2 was just
SG> released (or will soon be [?]).

Version 2.2 won't be out before june. And that's being optimistic :-)

Sala kahle,                                  RVa

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From: CRAIG MYERS                            Number: 14088
  To: JERRY THOMSON                            Date: 02/11/94  1:42p
Subj: "bad" dealers                           Refer: NONE
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 JT> I can tell you one dealer that I have made a couple of purchases from
 JT> and has been on the up and up with me.  It is Joe Rinehart with
 JT> CONFIG.SYS CO.
 JT> I just ordered another disk from StarVector and used a charge card.
 JT> I'll let you know how that one goes since I don't expect the disk to
 JT> arrive till around Friday or Monday.
 JT> Jerry

    Please do and thanks for the response.  I'm glad that you've had nothing but
good experiences so far with mail order.

    Take care and regards,
    Craig



... Ok, I pulled the pin.  Now what?   Where are you going?
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From: CRAIG MYERS                            Number: 14089
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/11/94  1:44p
Subj: Good Dealers                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Recently, Mike Shannon said this to Craig Myers:
  MS> Here we are!  If you need anything, don't hesitate to call.  We'll
 MS> offer you the best possible pricing, and we ship when we say we will.

 MS> Later,
 MS> .\\ike

 MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS:
 MS> 509-457-2892 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 *
 MS> VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

    Mike-
    Thanks for the reply.  If I ever order software thru mail order again, I'll be
sure to use you, as more than one person has written me recommending you.

    Keep up the good work.

    Regards,
    Craig


... "She's so fat that when she sings, it's over."
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From: ANDREW BARNHARDT                       Number: 14090
  To: ROD SPENCER                              Date: 02/11/94  4:03p
Subj: CDrom on 386-40                         Refer: NONE
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(02-09-94 02:51) Rod Spencer wrote about 'CDrom on 386-40':

 RS> Is anyone using a CDRom player with a 386-40 machine?  I read several
 RS> comments about the Reveal CD Rom player being a good machine, and
 RS> wanted to know if anyone was using one with a 386-40?  I thought I read
 RS> somewhere that there were some problems with CDRoms and that CPU.

I've been using a Panasonic 562 double speed drive on a 386DX/40 since
Christmas and haven't had a single problem -- it works flawlessly.

= Andrew B.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14091
  To: ROBERT HARE                              Date: 02/09/94  4:40p
Subj: PANASONIC 562/563                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>People have been referring to the non scsi port that is perprietory as a IDE
>port because that is the type of cable that fits it

 40-pin connections have been around a LOT longer than IDE, even in hard drive
controllers - the Western Digital 1002-05 (that their early XT and AT
controllers were loosely based on) used a 40-pin cable to connect to the
computer as well, and was used in some CP/M machines (Kaypro 10 comes to mind).

 Calling the 40-pin-cable CD-ROM stuff "IDE" just perpetuates an error that can
AND HAS had some ignorant folks trying to connect their CD-ROM drives to IDE
hard drive controllers - with disasterous results to their system. Even ONE
such
person making such an error due to messages like yours that calls those CD-ROM
drives "IDE interface" is too many for NO valid reason.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Paranoia - it's not just a Game, it's an Adventure!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14092
  To: JOEL RANKIN                              Date: 02/10/94  1:10p
Subj: BATTLECHESS                             Refer: NONE
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>Where can I find Battlechess for $29.00?

 $24 for the MPC version, $20 for the DOS version.

 See my price list tomorrow in CDROM_SALE or CFORSALE echoes, or call me at
[phone] (Tu Th 11-8 We Fr 11-6 Eastern Standard Time)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Send Sarah Brady for a(nother?) ride with Ted Kennedy!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14093
  To: JOHN HILVERT                             Date: 02/10/94  1:13p
Subj: CRITICAL PATH HELP                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>the temperature that paper burns in farenheit.

 That's easy - thanks to Ray Bradbury....


 * SLMR 2.1a * VDE v1.63 with SLMR 2.1a - ask me how!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14094
  To: JOHN ZELENKY                             Date: 02/10/94  1:15p
Subj: BACKPACK CD-ROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I have no experience with CD-ROM's and am in need of any information or
>personal experiences/opinions about MicroSolutions Backpack drives.

 Slow, but if you can't hook up a drive ANY other way they DO work.

 MicroSolutions tends to make the best products for the niches they make
products for....

>It is my understanding that a card is not needed with these units.

 Just a free parallel port.


 * SLMR 2.1a * I passed MY Ethics course - by cheating, of course!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14095
  To: NICK HONDA                               Date: 02/10/94  1:17p
Subj: SOUND CARD UPGRADING ADVI               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Also, can you recommend some good stereo speakers for use with this card?

 Radio Shack Minimus 7's are some of the better low-cost shielded speakers on
the market - even though they LONG predate multimedia.

 Usually around $49 each, often on sale for $39 or occasionally less.

 They're actually quite decent stereo system speakers too, within their
limitations....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Female programmers get their bits twiddled.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14096
  To: EDDIE APPELL                             Date: 02/10/94  3:17p
Subj: HOT NEW CDROM TITLE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Sounds great!!  So what's this "magic" gonna cost me?

 $11, shipping included to U.S.A. addresses if prepaid.

 Brice's Library
 5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
 Indianapolis, IN 46220

 [phone] (Tu Th 11-8 We Fr 11-6 Eastern Standard Time)


 * SLMR 2.1a * You live and learn. Or you don't live long.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14097
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 02/10/94  3:19p
Subj: BSR CD-ROM DRIVERS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> AD> found an old BSR cd and need some drivers anyone know

>     I understand DAK bought the BSR brand name and produced the only BSR
cdrom
>drives made.

 Nope. DAK generally buys out "remaining inventory" of DISCONTINUED products,
and "excess inventory" of current products. They produce NOTHING themselves
(even their "bread maker" is actually made by someone else).


 * SLMR 2.1a * "Hey now, hey now, don't dream it's over...."

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14098
  To: POE LIM                                  Date: 02/10/94  3:33p
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>>SCSI-based computer systems become quite slow at foreground
>>>tasks when doing heavy disk access in the background.
> BF> This is true for ANY system.

>Except if you use DMA bus-master HA; the card does everything.

 It's true for ANY system - the more stuff you are doing in the background, the
slower foreground operations become.


 * SLMR 2.1a * "Nobody would save him, so he laid down and he died."

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14099
  To: TOM WALLACE                              Date: 02/11/94 12:52p
Subj: 2 MITSUMIS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>-> This is not true...You can just use a Daisy Chain cable and power up
>-> CD and the card should support up to 4 cd-rom chained together...

>Thanks for your reply! I *think* we are talking about different models of
>Mitsumi drives.

 He is talking about either the Panasonic/Matsushita 56x series drives or some
of the older Hitachi drives - most likely the Matsushita, easier name to
confuse
with Mitsumi....

>I saw a message here months ago on how to setup the autoexec.bat and
config.sys
>files for two "cheap" Mitsumi drives, but now that I need to set up 2 of them
>in one computer, I've forgotten!

 You need to run them on different IRQs.
 Set up 2 copies of MTMCDD or MTMCDS, one for each individual drive/IRQ
 Set up one copy of MSCDEX putting BOTH drive names on the command line
seperately.


 * SLMR 2.1a * A Tribble a day keeps the Klingons away.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14100
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 02/11/94 12:54p
Subj: CD-ROM SPEC'S                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

> > The thing to remember is that a cd is _very_ much slower than a floppy

>I don't agree with your statement that CDROM is slower than floppy!

 The current fastest CD-ROM drives have an average access time that IS slower
than most 40-track floppies but are about the same to a HAIR faster than the 80
track floppies.
 Data Transfer Rate of a CD-ROM (even the single-speed stuff) is a LOT faster
than Double Density floppies, and a little faster than High Density floppies.


 * SLMR 2.1a * CATS. CATS ARE NICE. - Death, "Sourcery"

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14101
  To: DAVID MUENCH                             Date: 02/11/94 12:56p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Does anyone have a filelist from the above list for freqing?

 Terry Blount SHOULD have one....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I have no mouth, and I must SCREAM!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14102
  To: ARIE VAN LEYEN                           Date: 02/11/94  1:34p
Subj: ART ON CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Does anyone know if there are CDROMs containing art? I am looking for CD's on
>for instance Impressionism, old and modern painting etc..

 Electronic Library of Art series, among others....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Old is needing a fireworks permit for your birthday cake.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14103
  To: KENNETH ULLMAN                           Date: 02/11/94  1:56p
Subj: CD ROM                                  Refer: NONE
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>how good is this drive, I mean how reliable.  I thought NEC was the only
>company had the 4x drive?

 I presume you're talking about the Pioneer DRM-604X - which is in widespread
usage and has been around for over a year now.
 NEC's 4x drive may or may not be out YET....

 The reliability of the Pioneer DRM series changers appears to be quite good so
far....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Not just THE King, THE Once And Future King!

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 14104
  To: MARK BRACKEN                             Date: 02/12/94 12:08a
Subj: kq5                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB> Henry,
MB>         How far have gotten in kq5? I am up to the castle and i am stuck ca
MB>you help?
MB>  Leave me a message..

Well, I've completed KQ5 at maximum score so fire away! :)

Also, do you want me to give it away or just nudge you along??? :)

Peace,
                                Henry

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Peace and love and stuff like that. :)
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 14105
  To: MARK BRACKEN                             Date: 02/12/94 12:09a
Subj: F-15 STRIKE EAGLE III                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>    Hi All,
MB>           If anyone has f15SEIII and wants to use the modem function on it
MB> link the game for 2 users. Let me know It might be fun. Leave me a message.

I'd love to, but I'm quite sure it is long distance. :(

 * OLX 2.1 TD * CD-ROM to other: What kind of car is that? It's a CADDY!
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From: JASON SHINDLER                         Number: 14106
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/12/94  3:41p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$35????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Can you give me the Info?? I'm interested

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From: CARLTON GRIFFIN                        Number: 14107
  To: YAROSLAV LEVASHOV                        Date: 02/11/94  3:46a
Subj: CD's need ...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

YL> May be my problem is too specifical ... I'm live in Moscow, Russia
YL> and have a big problems with buying CD's for my CD-ROM here - they costs
YL> too many (from 30$ every, like old Loom or Monkey Island) May be someone
YL> visit Moscow sometimes, or planned to do this ? Or may be you know any
YL> safety ways to buy CD's by mail ? (I understand, that it
YL> looks funny, but ... :) Ok, and another question, more realistic : I have
YL> SB Pro and Panasonic 563B Double Speed CD-ROM. I'm using SpeedDrive cache
YL> for faster axx - anybody know more progressive (or better) software ?

I haven't seen anyone from Russia or the former USSR on any bbs or echo
net before.  Welcome, I am glad your people now have the option of this
hobby.

If UPS (United Parcel Service) delivers in your area, have the company
you buy from insure the package for it's value.  If UPS looses your
package or if anything else happens to it while it is in their hands,
they will pay you the amount it was insured for.  This insurance only
cost a few American dollars and is well worth it.  I sure you have read
the advertisements here from people selling CD's.  Even in America, $30
isn't bad for most CDs, although some are as low as $15-20.

Good luck Yaroslav.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 14108
  To: TIM SMITH                                Date: 02/12/94 11:33a
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tim,

Answering a msg of <10 Feb 94>, from Tim Smith to Ed Duchek:
sounds good.  will probably have it by the time you see this!


Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: DOUG COUGHLER                          Number: 14109
  To: WARREN KREICK                            Date: 02/11/94 11:14p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM Discs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WK>                         Busty Babes I
  >                         Extasy Hot Pics
  >                         Foxes
  >                         Seedy-Rom VII
  >                         Smutware
  >                         Storm III

WK>  Make me an offer on the lot - I will consider a trade for some interesting
  >  piece(s) of Hardware or Software too...

    I'd be interested in one, maybe even two, but not the lot.  Could
 you possibly tell me the original costs and a brief description?

 Doug Coughler

 -- SPEED 1.30 [NR]: .."Never lick a gift horse in the mouth."
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14110
  To: DHAVD TYREGR                             Date: 02/11/94 12:00a
Subj: Re:asoy vst panasonis                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On76 Feb 94 0700pom,Dhavd Tyregr wrote to

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From: SCOTT WILLIS                           Number: 14111
  To: SHANE MUNDEE                             Date: 02/13/94  8:46p
Subj: Lawnmower Man and Journey               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

journeyman project is prettey good but it is really short and easy to
finish.lawnmowerman sucks it is only in 320x200 32 colors even though
the box says 256 colors.it was a mistakes
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From: SCOTT WILLIS                           Number: 14112
  To: BRANDON MULLER                           Date: 02/13/94  8:49p
Subj: The Lawnmower Man                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

the game is only 32 colors not 256 like the box says it was a miss press
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From: JOHN ZELENKY                           Number: 14113
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 02/13/94  6:52p
Subj: Backpack cd-rom drive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF>On 02-02-94  03:42 John Zelenky said something about Backpack cd-rom drive,
LF>which I reply:

LF>We have one at work, and it works just fine. It's very easy to move
from LF>one computer to another. It runs from the parallel port, but you
can LF>plug your printer into the drive so you don't lose the use of a
parallel LF>printer while using the cdrom.

Thanks for the info, I'm going to look for one of these.

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * On a clear disk you can seek forever


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From: JOHN ZELENKY                           Number: 14114
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/13/94  6:52p
Subj: BACKPACK CD-ROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF>>I have no experience with CD-ROM's and am in need of any information or
BF>>personal experiences/opinions about MicroSolutions Backpack drives.

BF> Slow, but if you can't hook up a drive ANY other way they DO work.

BF> MicroSolutions tends to make the best products for the niches they make
BF>products for....

BF>>It is my understanding that a card is not needed with these units.

BF> Just a free parallel port.

Thanks for the info, I'm going to look for one of these.

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?


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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 14115
  To: MAC OWNERS                               Date: 02/12/94 10:59p
Subj: Apple Service Info CD's                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Surplus Apple Service Info CD's (Service Source CDROM) Jan 93 edition
*** Close-Out Special *** $13 Including Shipping *** only 60 CD's Left ***

   Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including
   compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network
   products. Extensive exploded views of assemblies, including service,
   disassembly and adjustment procedures in hypercard format for quick
   and easy reference. Covers Mac line (to 2/93) and many discontinued
   models. If you're into Macs and have a CDROM it's a great resource.

Price: $13 (was $18) inc. shipping in the US. Call and reserve your copy
    before they're gone. Send check or money order (no COD's/plastic)
        Mail Orders: Sonoma Online, POB 7518, Santa Rosa CA 95407
    Local Sales: Visit our office at 3928 Sebastopol Rd., Santa Rosa CA
 707.545.0746 Voice * 707.526.9473 FAX * [e-mail]


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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14116
  To: MATT DELCO                               Date: 02/12/94  5:01p
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom And Lap Top Comput           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Matt Delco blurted out ≡=-
 LM>Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen a lap top computer
 >(portable computer) with a built in CD-ROM player yet?
 MD> I haven't.
They make them for Laptops already...  it plugs into a 3½" disk drive (you
need to pull the 3½" FDD out first).  I saw it previewed in...............
I forgot!  But look around!  EL

... I understand the answers, the questions throw me.
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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14117
  To: JIM LEENAN                               Date: 02/12/94  5:04p
Subj: Chess                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Jim Leenan blurted out ≡=-
 JL> Actually I already do have ChessMaster 3000 on CD.  I like playing

I think there is ChessMaster 4000 Turbo..  but not on CD tho...  :(
I don't have it so I have no opinion...  EL

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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14118
  To: MARCUS LEE                               Date: 02/12/94  5:13p
Subj: 2 sound boards                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Marcus Lee blurted out ≡=-
 ML> Well I'm running a PAS16 + GUS in the one machine. IMO its the best
What's the advantage or what is your purpose of running 2 sound cards
in one system?  Just curious.  Thanx!  EL

... C:\DOS   C:\DOS\RUN   RUN\DOS\RUN!
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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14119
  To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                       Date: 02/12/94  5:17p
Subj: AUD                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when William T. Mcclain blurted out ≡=-
 DT>the BBS community whilst stocks last, so please mention this ad! (The price
 DT>are in $AUD.)
 DT>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60
 DT>   - full length movie + much more!
 JF> Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so "special"
 JF> considering CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this same CD for $29.95 in
 JF> both PC and MAC versions. What gives?
 WTM> you quoted. He plainly stated that the prices are in $AUD. This means
 WTM> Australian dollars. Check the exchange rate. It's like comparing
 WTM> apples to oranges to compare his price to a US quoted price.
What is the xchange rate?  EL

... I know a good tagline when I steal it....
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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14120
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/12/94  5:27p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11 a lawsuits             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Doug Carpenter blurted out ≡=-
 MM> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for
 MM> $250,000 for using their
 DR> If Disney goes after Night Owls, you can bet
 DR> they'll go after SysOps running
 DR> the disc on-line next.  That's usually the sequenct of events...  ;-(
 DC> I heard that as well, and they have since recut the disc without any
 DC> Disney images.  Disney is suing the distributors as well.  I hear
 DC> Warner will be suing people for having Startrek stuff on their CDs
 DC> soon and I think others are suing for having their music available on

I don't think it is the responsibility of the user, but of the original
company themselves...  unless they ship each of us a writable CD player &
have us erase them (yea right)...  Sux!  EL

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From: SHON STERLING                          Number: 14121
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/13/94  4:31p
Subj: Re: 1994 cd catalogue now               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting James Whatley to Denis Coleman <=-

 DC>Well finally the 1994 CD catalogue is now ready for
 DC>release, the cd database contains over 1100 titles with
 DC>another 200 yet to be put in but will be done by the time
 DC>everyone asks for a copy to be posted to them on 720k
 DC>floppy disks.
 DC>
 DC>leave your address here for a copy, or call

Shon Sterling
Box 2065
Arnold, CA  95223

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From: TONY WILLIAMS                          Number: 14122
  To: JOHN CUCOLA                              Date: 02/13/94 11:24p
Subj: Metafiles?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John, I don't know why you were writing me this message. I did not ask you that
question. Let me know if there is two Tony Williams on this board. If there is,
we will have to let the Sysop know. He may be able to allow us to use a handle
or another name. It is a common name. My daughter is named Toni Williams. Our
mail often gets confused. My wife has to use a different tonation of her voice
in order to call either my daughter or myself. I hope we can get this cleared
up. It is nice to know that there is a lot of us out there. I am Tony. I am the
counselor. Feel free to talk with me at anytime about anything. Talk about your
problems or lack of, give advice or take it, or just talk. I am all ears. I
will not be judgmental. I am waiting for your messages.

Tonyz

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From: VOLKER MEYER                           Number: 14123
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  8:31a
Subj: Kq6                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there!

Is anyone around here playing Kq6 currently? I could use some hints.




Volker.
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From: DIRK SIBBING                           Number: 14124
  To: ALLE                                     Date: 02/13/94 12:11p
Subj: S:Grolier Encyclopedia                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello!

Where can I dispatch the Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia for Windows
( Dispatch to Germany) and what would it cost to send it to Germany

Bye
Dirk

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 14125
  To: GRANT DEASON                             Date: 02/12/94  9:29a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM and QEMM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Grant -

05 Feb 94, Grant Deason writes to Zaphod Beedlebrox:

(edited)

   GD> I purchased MS-DOS 6... and said goodbye to plenty of conventional
   GD> memory.  I tweaked settings till I was blue in the face...

   GD> When I purchased QEMM 7, my problems came to a screeching halt!  I
   GD> loaded QEMM, ran Express Optimize, and watched 590K of base memory
   GD> increase to 634K!  This was with NO changes to the default setup...

Thanks.  I've had excellent results with QEMM since 1987.

But... am I misreading you?  ARE you or AREN'T you still using DOS 6?

And, have you "upgraded" to 6.2 ?  (The unmitigated GALL of Micro$oft,
to charge money to provide bug-fixes!)

   GD> QEMM made it possible for me to optimize all 5 of my boot-up
   GD> configurations with minimal effort...

Just curious... why 5?

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 14126
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 12:23p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: IAN BOND                               Number: 14127
  To: ZAPHOD BEEDLEBROX                        Date: 02/08/94  4:30p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

thanks for the advice Zaphod! I'll check it out!!

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From: DON WEIR                               Number: 14128
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/12/94  7:57p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Codes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PB> My thanks to the many people who sent me the Rebel
 PB> Assault passcodes. I now have them all as well as
 PB> the "cheat" mode codes. Finally I've been able to
 PB> see what I've been missing!

You now have the Passcodes as well as the "cheat" mode codes?
What are the "cheat" mode codes?
Am I missing out on something?

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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14129
  To: ALAN HUMAN                               Date: 02/09/94 10:35p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest Help                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Alan Human to All <=-

 AH> A friend of mine is playing T7G and I've been feeding him with game
 AH> tips  from this conference.  He has asked me to see if anyone can help
 AH> him  with the following problem.  He is in the Sanctuary and there's a
 AH> hole  in the floor.  He can't figure out the puzzle.  He's been to the
 AH> library  twice and it says to follow the markings on the floor.  He
 AH> doesn't see  any markings.  Is this a hardware problem?  He would

Sanctuary? I'm not sure I know of any room like that, by the description
I assume the altar? From the room with the coin puzzle? The steps fall
away, the object is to reach the upper right arrow after haveing all the
blocks fall away. It's related to the colour of the block, ie. step on a
purple block and you have 3 steps before the blocks' you've stepped on
fall away...

HIHAL -T-

... Do ROFLS have ridges?
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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 14130
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  7:10a
Subj: The 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi

    I have some 7th Guest *b games for sale, selling for $50 and $4 for
postage.

The 7th guest is a 2cd game.

Denis

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From: BILL PARROTT                           Number: 14131
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94 11:06p
Subj: Wanted Chinon  CDS-435                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I'am looking for 2 Chinon CDS-435 internal CD-ROM drives with the 40 pin
 interface, with or without interface cards. Must be in good shape and
 warrentied against DOA. Please reply here or call 1-208-375-3844.

Bill

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From: TOM GUELKER                            Number: 14132
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  9:04a
Subj: Mitsumi wanted!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


I want your old broken Mitsumi CD readers! Model LU002S or 005S
Prefer non-working since I'm cheap and a little dangerous with a
soldering iron..
Reply with model #, asking price and voice phone number.
Regards,
Tom Guelker

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From: JERRY JOSEPH                           Number: 14133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  8:22a
Subj: WANTED CD MADE!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey, does anyone out there make CD's?  I've got several 250MB tapes that I want
to put on CD for more ease of uses and storage..Please let me know what the
cost would be.  Leave me e-mail or call [phone]  I'm looking for someone
close to Toledo, OH.

                                Thanks!

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From: BARRY OWENS                            Number: 14134
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/11/94  8:48p
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SM> We have reopened after a January vacation and have more catalogues to
SM> send to catalogue hungry cd-rom users.  If you would like a free copy (or
SM> missed out on one during our absense) drop us a line, send a message
SM> or call.

Hi, I would like to receive one of your catalogs.

Barry Owens
261 Las Palmas Street
Royal Palm Beach, FL  33411

Thanks!
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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 14135
  To: TONY SAUNDERS                            Date: 02/12/94  1:09a
Subj: CD rom GAMES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-08-1994, TONY SAUNDERS had the audacity to speak to PAUL
PICCIONI...

TS> 7th Guest-excellent

Unfortunately, it's one of those games that you play once and shelf.

TS> Day of the Tentacle -brilliant and very funny adventure.

Never played the CD version.  The floppy version is great tho.

TS> Rebel Assault-amazing (after you have installed the V1.4 bug fix
TS> :)  )

It sounds too much like X-Wing for my tastes.  I'm not a big fan of
flight sims.

TS> Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol I & II & III

Would be nice if there were "hints" built in.

TS>  Hot Games that are here or are coming:
TS>
TS> The 11th Hour-sequel to the 7th Guest

It sounds good.

TS> Sam and Max Hit the Road-Next brilliant adventure from Lucas Arts

Never played the floppy version.  How is it?

TS> The Dig-Steven Spielberg helped write this adventure

I'm intrigued.  Do you have any more info?!

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - [e-mail]
CompuServe - 72712,2232


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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 14136
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/12/94  1:12a
Subj: Creative Labs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-04-1994, PEDRO VIEIRA had the audacity to speak to ALL...

PV>         I want to contact thecnical support of Creative Labs via
PV> messages.         Can anybody give me the Internet or Fidonet adress
PV> of somebody         there?

Do you have CompuServe access?  CL just opened their own forum on
there.  GO BLASTER.

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - [e-mail]
CompuServe - 72712,2232


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 14137
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/14/94  8:12a
Subj: Clip Art Comments                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JF>Heather, I have the following CD-disks of clipart and I will give you a
JF>brief description of each...

        Thanks very much for the helpful information on contents!
        The viewer utilities in Clipart Heaven sound helpful, although
        I think that my PC Tools for Windows has a viewer built in for
        various graphics formats, so I can flip through them (although
        not with the thumbnail views or grouping into categories). I'll
        archive your message and see if anyone else has thoughts to add
        before I decide. Thanks again.

- Heather
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From: MIKE LEE                               Number: 14138
  To: BRYAN FULLER                             Date: 02/13/94  7:20a
Subj: 7TH Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I did n't post that message, i don't have 7th guest?

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 14139
  To: MARC YOUNG                               Date: 02/13/94 10:16p
Subj: Cd-rom Upgrading Tips And               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 08 Feb 94, Marc Young stated to Michael Guidry:

MY>MG>I've got a Toshiba 3401 internal on order.  It's one of the most
MY>expensive
MY>MG>of the double speeds [>=$350 mail order], but its got a 200ms ac
MY>time
MY>
MY>MG>Will let you know how it works.  BTW, the driver you need to hoo
MY>cd to MG>the pas is available on the Mediavision bbs. [phone]
MY>MG>[phone].
MY>
MY>Could you let me know how big the file(s) are, and filename etc. -
MY>download them from the states, i'll need to keep the phone bill dow
MY>(unless someone in Oz knows where I can get them?)
MY>
MY>I'll also be real interested in how the drive works out - Toshiba d
MY>seem to import them here - prices are about AUD800-1000 which I thi
MY>about US$600+ - anyone want to export one to  me?


The file is about 40k.  I sent out a message today giving my experience
with the upgrade.  It's not hard except to make sure you get the audio
cable to connect the drive to the PAS16.  Apparently there are no
standards for audio connectors on cd rom drives. Seems like it's something
that should be covered in the MPC standards.

The prices on Toshiba drives are about $360-370US mail order.  You might
want to check out the latest PC Magazine which compares cd drives.  You
might be able to find another good drive at a better price down there. The
installation ought be the same except for possibly a different audio
connector.




... I yam Popeye of the Borg. Prepares ta beez askimiligrated
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From: DAVE HOLOHAN                           Number: 14140
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  3:53a
Subj: Cd-rom Changer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know how to set up a CD-ROM changer for
operation on a BBS? If there is any additional software/TSR
or DOOR that needs to do something special?
What about handling having to change out for requests
for files on different CD's?

I have no changer experience, and solocit any/all
info I can get.

Thanks in advance!

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 14141
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/13/94 11:21a
Subj: PANASONIC 562/AT BUS                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hello Mike!

Thursday February 10 1994 23:20, Mike Shannon wrote to Gary Huff:

 MS> Tell me about it!  We were in Anaheim when it hit.  Talk about an E-ticket
 MS> ride!  Only problem was, we weren't at Disneyland at the time. 8)
 MS> Definitely one of the scarier experiences of my life.  Yakima is a nice
 MS> place, and has been fairly solid *recently*.  Our last quake was a 4.
 MS> something around 10 years ago, but to the locals here it was pretty
 MS> exciting.  Most actually slept through it when it hit around 2am, but I
 MS> was awake and thought our dog was under my bed!  With the L.A. quake, it
 MS> felt like Godzilla was under the bed!

Considering you were on your honeymoon, I thought you CAUSED the earthquake.
;-)


Later,

Dave

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From: JOHN BARTA                             Number: 14142
  To: DONALD WEN                               Date: 02/13/94  7:15a
Subj: Wanted beatles cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DW>Okay, but have you heard from Voyager, the publisher of AHDN?

No, Haven't bothered contacting them since  (with  Stephen's  help,)
discovering  the cause and solution to my problem i.e., two versions
of Apple's Quick Time for Windows. Had I not  installed  Corel  Draw
4.0,  prior to AHDN, the problem would not have occurred. The person
who pointed me  in  the  right  direction  had  installed  the  same
software, in the same order, and discovered the same situation - old
drivers. ...

                                   John
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 14143
  To: MIKE MORE                                Date: 01/28/94  9:47p
Subj: Re: STW Encyclopedia                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Hello All!

> Does anyone know if STW has an upgrade for their encyclopedia? I have
> Multimedia version 1.5 which came with my CD. I've seen mention of v2.0
> but I haven't heard from STW. Thanks.
Hi, Next upgrade is 6.0 Groliers. Since 1.5 STW version, STW didn't OEM it with
their own name. TTYL

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 14144
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 12:31a
Subj: CD-ROM catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you like to be in our mailing list ot receive our latest catalog and special
offers, please call or write to

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
Tel [phone] or 1-800-373-0628
Fax [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

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From: LEE GILLAN                             Number: 14145
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/14/94  6:40p
Subj: Re: Catalogues                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hi Steve.....

 -=> Quoting Steve Mann to Lee Gillan <=-

 SM> Sorry Lee,

 SM> I doesn't make sense for us to ship to the US.  Since we import from
 SM> the US we'd be just making the shipping companies rich.  Try Mike
 SM> Shannon or Boris Osadciw - they have good reputations.

 Well, actually I'm in Canada, but I guess it's still a heckuva lot closer
 geographically just the same....<G>... No problem Steve.... thanks for
 your time... take care....


                                    Lee...>>

... I've used up all my sick days - so I'm calling in dead!
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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 14146
  To: LON LENTZ                                Date: 02/14/94  9:38a
Subj: Re: OS2/2.1                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LL> -=> Quoting Jeff Erhardt to Raphael Vanney <=-

LL>JE> First, if you buy os/2 on cd rom, you must have a scsi drive, os/2
LL>JE> will not install from a non-scsi drive.  As far as stacker goes, you

LL> Not true. IBM has CD driver replacements for a lot of the current drives.
LL>Call them to get the file name for your drive, then d'l it from their BBS.

Do you have their BBS's number?
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From: PETER JANSSENS                         Number: 14147
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/13/94 10:59p
Subj: Night Owl 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 > LM:>Try convincing the Americans who think the US dollar is the *only*
 > LM:>currency in existance.

 > Well, it IS the only one that actually LOOKS like money!  <g>

You mean those little plastic things which have "VISA" or "Mastercard" printer
on them without which you can not rent a car in the USA unless you deposit a
major security?

At least we all know what car rentals think of US currency... <grin>

PS: How much extra does MacDonalds charge if you pay cash? :-)

Cheerz, Peter
        [e-mail]

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 14148
  To: JASON SHINDLER                           Date: 02/13/94  5:06p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jason,

$35 + $3 P&H... new comptons interactive encyclopedia....1.01VW

pre-payment prefered, but if you want COD, you pick up those charges also.


Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: CHARLI JAMES                           Number: 14149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 12:47p
Subj: king's quest 6                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am really STUCK. I think I have picked up all the things I can and
gone to all the ilands. But I can't get passed the Minotaur!


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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 14150
  To: KENNETH ULLMAN                           Date: 02/14/94  1:17a
Subj: 4X                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> > how good is this drive, I mean how reliable.  I thought NEC was the
> > only company had the 4x drive?  Anyway thanks for the info.  Now I ca
> > do some checking on this drive>
>
> Pioneere is the one one who has the real "afforable" 4x, one that's
> not like thousand's but NEC makes the 3x one's only.
>  Back to your original question, That 3x is real good, I've got one
> the 3ei, the internal. Avg transfer is about 400k/s but it's supposed
> to go at 450 but hey... It has a fast acess time of 195, faster I ever
> saw. It's nice, it also plays regular CD's with out having to run a
> software for it, it's neat. Only thing is that there's not too many
> things that support 3x speeds, I seen one which was Rebel Assult, I
> might be wrong and everythign might use it but I only saw Rebel Assult
> saw that it specifically supported 3x speeds.

        Sorry! There is 4x CD-ROM made by NEC and I found out about that about
30minutes after I poseted this message.
        Since this is the first time I heard about it's existance even I can't
really tell you much about it.
        But I would still hold off buying it for a while. Because there's not
much software out that even supports a 3x even and for the 4x...
        Anyway the thing transfers at 600K/sec and it should have an acess time
of under 200ms. Darn thing goes about as fast as my old harddisk.
But th eproblem is that the NEC is semi-afforable-$900 o/w the interface kit.
And the Pioneer is well above that in the $1000-$1300, I can look it up for you
if you want, and where you can buy one.

                                ..jig....

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 14151
  To: MICHAEL MURPHY                           Date: 02/14/94  1:21a
Subj: CD PROBLEMS!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> OK, folks!  I have a problem.  This has just recently started for some
> reason, so, here it is:
> I can't get my audio CD's to play in the right speaker.  The left one
> comes in just fine.  Both speakers work just fine, because I can hear
> my WAV's and the music on my games just fine.  I *think* what's wrong,
> is that the wire from my CD to the SB is loose or something.  That
> could be the case because I have recently taken things out, and moved
> others around inside there.  So, anyone have any idea what it could
> be???  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

        If you have any extra spare speakers, why not just connect them ot the
"audio-output" directly on the CD-ROM. So even if you have that loose wire,
you'll be bypassing it.
        If not go on your hypothesis and fiddle with your wires until they work
or if worst  comes to worst buy new wires if your old ones have messed up.

                                ..jig....

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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 14152
  To: AL AGEE                                  Date: 02/14/94  1:00p
Subj: CUSTOM CDS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 AA> I'll put 640mb of your data on an ISO 9660 standard CD for $49. If

    Got a question. I'm just getting started in the Kodak-CD
stuff. Most shops charge about $75.00 to transfer
slides/negatives to a CD. Oddly, they charge almost the same to
make a SECOND CD -- or just a few dollars less. Do you have the
ability copy from CD to CD for the above rate? If you do, you
might want to talk it up, cuz you'll be cheaper than the Kodak
rate.


... Why experiment on animals with so many lawyers available?
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: STEVE HARRIS                           Number: 14153
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  8:42p
Subj: FREE Used Software Ads                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    - - - -  The SecondWare Trader publication  - - - -

    I've run across an interesting publication which is mailed monthly
    (first slass postage) to paid subscribers.  It is the SecondWare Trader
    and it contains classified ads for used and bargain priced commercial
    software (no shareware).  Most of the classifications are for IBM-PC
    software, but there are also classifications for Apple, Commodore. etc.

    They currently are accepting FREE ads for the next issue, and they have an
    introductory special for only $6 which includes four issues and a copy of
    "Buying and Selling Used Software", a manuscript which explains in plain
    language probably everything you always wanted to know about transferring
    used software. (Canada and Mexico is $8, Foreign is $9.) You DON'T have to
    subscribe to get the FREE ad.

    Their address is: The Secondware Trader - Dept. S, P.O. Box 23604,
    Charlotte, NC 28227.  They have a 24-hour automated voice-mail telephone
    number, 704-573-1246, which can be used to place an ad or request
    information, and they can be contacted on CompuServe (71613,313).  If you
    prefer, I can forward an ad or further information requests to them if
    you reply to this message.  When sending a used software ad, be sure to
    include a mailing address and/or telephone number for people to respond
    to your ad.



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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14154
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 02/13/94 10:32p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE C                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->    Are You Shipping TOP DRAWER now.

Yes, sure are.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14155
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/13/94 10:50p
Subj: Re: Pioneer Changers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> It maybe the largest dealer you buy from, but it's not the largest!

That's your opinion.  Since I didn't tell you who it was, it would be a
little hard for you to argue the point, wouldn't you say?

-> all over the country. In fact, we have a standing order for 50 units
-> right now, NOT SOLD mind you, just for inventory purpose. We received
-> 15 units and they shipped to a number of customers already. We're
-> told now that the

Blowing smoke, huh?
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From: GARY NEWMAN                            Number: 14156
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  6:33p
Subj: OS/2 & T7G Cake                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm wondering what I can do to get the pieces of the cake to rasie faster after
they have been select.. man is it slow.. it's much faster in DOS but I'd rather
not do it in DOS.

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From: LOUIS MAYS                             Number: 14157
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 02/13/94  6:41p
Subj: CD-ROM and LAP TOP COMPUTERS            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wow, $8,000 is a bit too much for me. I think I'll wait until the price goes
down. Thanks for your info.

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From: LOUIS MAYS                             Number: 14158
  To: JONATHAN CHAU                            Date: 02/13/94  6:42p
Subj: CD-ROM and LAP TOP COMPUT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would you happen to know the approximate cost?

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From: ROBERT KUMMER                          Number: 14159
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94 11:54p
Subj: CD's For Trade or Sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


    Hello Everyone, I have several CD's I would like to trade for
   other CD's or maybe sell. I'd be interested in Adult, Games,
   Shareware CD's or whatever. I have the following CD's.

  Games: Stellar 7.... Kings Quest 6....Carmen Sandiego Deluxe

             Adult: Seedy Rom #6.....Amateur Models

                     Shareware Title's

     America's Premier                   Phoenix 3
     Shareware Games 92                  SDN 1 plus
     CIA World Fact Book                 Mega Demo 1
     Shareware Tiger Ver 92A             Black Box 4

                           Other's


                 MPC Wizard 2.0
                 Sing-Along Classic's Vol.1102
                 MacroMedia Action! & ClipMedia
                 WinCD - Audio CD player & Database
                 Microsoft Multimedia Pak For Windows
                 CD-ROM Premiere - Interactive Sampler
                 Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia Ver 1


     Please reply here with offers. Leave # and I'll call if interested,
     or I can reply here. Thanks.

     Robert.

---
 ■ OLX 2.2 ■ It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a
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From: CRUZ GRACIA                            Number: 14160
  To: JAMES WHITESELL                          Date: 02/13/94  8:21p
Subj: Re: Brain Pickin'                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JW> External caddy-based high speed 390 millisecond, full 150+ KBS MPC Multimed
JW> CD ROM drive.  MPC CD ROM interface card with SoundBlaster, Windows and AdL
JW> sound compatibility.  Amplified two way computer speaker systems.  Three fr
JW> MPC Multimedia CD ROM programs. It comes with cables and a card with jacks
JW> joystick, headphone, left/right audio and microphone, plus volume control.
JW> Brand name is BSR.
First of all buddy, it's a single speed drive. Alot of cds won't play on that
drive. Don't buy it. Look a a CD-ROM with a 300 KBS transfer rate. They are
cheap. See ya.

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From: TOM MUCHA                              Number: 14161
  To: THOMAS WARDMAN                           Date: 02/12/94 10:28p
Subj: Re: OS/2 2.1 for Windows                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Thomas Wardman to Jeff Erhardt <=-

 TW> Hello!

 TW> I have a Mitsumi drive, and it's not a SCSI drive.  I installed the
 TW> OS/2 2.1 CDROM Upgrade Standard Edition with no problems.  Just get the
 TW> Mitsumi Driver, nad it works...OS/2 has support for alot of goodies...

 TW> Caio... .\\Tom~~

  When you installed it you didn't have to do anything special? Cause I just
  ordered the CD and I already have the mitsumi drivers.  I would apriciate it
  if you could tell me if you had to do anything special.


                                                   Tom


... Borg spreadsheet program:  Locutus 1-2-3
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From: GEORGE BARONE                          Number: 14162
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  4:25a
Subj: The Animals CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just purchased The Animals CD-Rom & it will not run due to my video card not
having a driver for 256 Color. The video card will support 256 Color & 1 MB
Ram. The problem is - the card is old & it didn't come with drivers for Win
3.1 (3.0 was the current release it supports) & there is no manufacturer or
tech support # in the manual. The card is an ULTRA VGA ADAPTER, based on the
TSENG 4000 chip. Does anyone know a BBS that I can D/L a TSENG 4000 driver for
Windows 3.1 256 color. I don't have a compuserve ID..
Any help would be appreciated.

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From: CHARLES CAMPBELL                       Number: 14163
  To: JOHN FOTI                                Date: 02/13/94  8:59a
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Sale - Aussie only        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


        Do you have it for Sale or are you in the market for it?


CC

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 14164
  To: JEAN-DANIEL GREUB                        Date: 02/13/94 10:39p
Subj: MEDICAL & SCIENTIFIC CDRO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A Science and Engineering collection of 236 Shareware products is available
from EMS. They also have AutoCAD and programmign languages.
Fax:[phone]. The February edition is shipping.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 14165
  To: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                         Date: 02/13/94 10:43p
Subj: Programming CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, William Rountree said:
 WR> I'm looking at purchasing a couple CD's that have Quick
 WR> Basic, Profressional
 WR> Basic, and Visual Basic source files....any suggestions?
 WR> --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff258/b]
 WR>  * Origin: Home of Adventurer's Maze, Murder Mansion and
 WR> others!

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the February 1994 edition of it's
Visual Basic library (670 products) and VBDOS/QB/PDS library (239 files).
Either on 2 CDROMs is $59.50, both for $84.50. These are designed for
professional programmers. Hobbiest CDROMs are available from LOTS of sources,
but you'll probably find them nearly useless if you are serious about
programming. You can get a brochure by calling 301-924-3594 or faxing
301-963-2708. If you don't mind getting a 2 month old collection (too old for
pros, but OK for hobbiests) you can the December edition for $25, both for $35.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 14166
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94 10:47p
Subj: TurboPascal Sharware CDROM              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its TurboPascal CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
799 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 145,000 record PC products database. Voice:[phone],
Fax:[phone].
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From: LINDA SATTERFIELD                      Number: 14167
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/14/94  7:06a
Subj: Comptons's int ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Tim,

-> Answering a msg of <10 Feb 94>, from Tim Smith to Ed Duchek: sounds
-> good.  will probably have it by the time you see this!

-> Ed Duchek [phone]

Ed, I sent you a msg Feb 9th that I would like one of the Compton CD's and
hadn't heard from you...are they gone?? If not I would definitely like to have
one.

                         --<--@  Linda  @-->--




===
 * RM 1.2 01236 * Why not go out on a limb?  Isn't that where the fruit is?


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From: ALEX MOTTRAM                           Number: 14168
  To: GRANT DEASON                             Date: 02/14/94  1:34a
Subj: Sony CD-31A                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

+-
| having a problem copying files from the drive...it will read the disk
| for a while then display "CDR101:  Not ready error reading drive E:"
+-[GD=>All]

I have a CDU-31A and sometimes encounter the same types of errors while
trying to read from the Night Owl's 9 CDROM.  Try increasing the number
of sector buffers on your MSCDEX line with /M:XX  where XX is the number
of buffers you want.

Hope this helps,

Alex Mottram

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From: JASON CHANCELLOR                       Number: 14169
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  7:17p
Subj: CD-ROM Recording                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                     ---------- CD Technology -----------
                        Professional Recording Services

       CD-Rom Creation Prices                 Bulk CD-Rom Production
      ------------------------               -------------------------
       0   - 100 megs   :  $99               10 CD's / 650 Megs :  $99
       100 - 300 megs   : $145               11 and Up          : CALL
       300 - 650 megs   : $199

                           ** Sysop's SPECIAL **
                         -------------------------
                            0 - 650 megs : $125
                      Please Include Board and Number

               Data accepted in QIC-40 and QIC-80 tape formats.
            We also accept floppies but please call before sending.

   *  2 Day Shipping included with all orders - call for priority service *
      *  Our Professional staff has a 2 day turnaround on most CD orders *

 Why have a custom CD-Rom created for yourself?
     * Unprecedented error correction which makes CDs practically
          indestructible.
     * One CD will hold over 450  1.44k floppies and over 1800
          360k disks.
     * Easily transportable from one system to another.

  Please send Check or Money order payable to CD Technology to :

                              PO BOX #835034
                              Richardson, TX
                              75083-5034

  If you have any questions please call CD Technology at :
       (214) 578 - 6390   (Call 24 Hours a day)
                          (Buisness Hours 8 am - 8 pm)

  For Order form   FREQ : CD   from 1:124/8005

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From: STEVE PARKER                           Number: 14170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94  7:19p
Subj: Toshiba CD-ROM drives wanted..          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  If any dealers happen to sell CD-ROM drives and have 2 Toshiba 3201 or 3301
internal CD-ROM drives available for a reasonable price I'd be interested in
buying them.  I don't need double speed [already have a 3401] or any fancy
features and would prefer either of these 2 models.  Cheap externals would be
ok too if they are cheap enough and easily removed from the cases to make them
into bare drives.  I would expect to pay under $200 each.  Apple Mac externals
can be had for under $200, so it seems reasonable to expect a bare internal
single speed drive to go for under $200.

  Feel free to Netmail me info at the address in the origin line, or snail mail
catalogs or info to..

 Steve Parker
 P.O. Box 6177
 Los Osos, CA 93412-6177


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From: MARCEL GINGRAS                         Number: 14171
  To: PIERRE LESSARD                           Date: 02/13/94 11:03a
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PL>* Dans un message addresse a All, Pedro Vieira disait:
PL> >         Porquoi tout le monde ici parle anglais ? Porquoi le
PL> > francais est discrimine ? Je pense que l'anglais c'est bon, mas
PL> > francais c'est meilleur...

PL>        Tu peux me parler en francais a moi!

PL>A bientot!

PL>--- GEcho 1.00
PL> * Origin: Mega Bab * CD-ROMs * [phone] (1:240/850)
Bonjour Pierre;
        dis moi de quelle region de Quebec tu es?
Je viens d'acquerir un CD-ROM et tu peux t'imaginer combien je suis
content de mon nouveau "jouet"!
        Comme tu vois, on parle francais ici aussi. J'ai la fille de mon
        cousin avec moi depuis plus de trois mois. Elle demeure dans les
        Cantons de l'Est.
        A bientot.
Marcel Gingras
Port Colborne, ON


 * OLX 2.1 TD * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny.


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From: JOHN COWLES                            Number: 14172
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  7:51p
Subj: Sound Blaster 16 SCSI help              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I am in need of the SCSI drivers for this card. If you have a SB16 SCSI I would
appreciate it if you could upload the SCSI drivers to me or allow me to Freq
them from you.

Thanks
John Cowles

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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 14173
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 02/14/94 12:57a
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale or TRAD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Sam Figueroa to James Pollock <=-

 SF> James,
 SF> Yes, I will take the cd with manual! I will send ya So Much
 SF> Stareware promptly after I receive your disc, I will send via 2nd day
 SF> air!!!  Please send it to:

Will go out tomorrow via 2nd priority mail or 1st class.


... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JOHN ALEXANDER                         Number: 14174
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/14/94  7:21p
Subj: Creative Labs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Pedro Vieira to All <=-

 PV> Hi,All.

 PV> I want to contact thecnical support of Creative Labs via
 PV> messages. Can anybody give me the Internet or Fidonet adress of
 PV> somebody there?

 PV> I thank you very much.


 PV> []s ßy :

 PV> ╔══════════════┐
 PV> ║ Pedro Vieira ├──-> »» Junt BBS SysOp ≈ [phone] [23/07h.] ««
 PV> ╚──────────────┘                        (4:802/13)

Creative Labs was moved to Oklahoma City.  Try contacting some BBSes there.




... Why do those that pay the least complain the most?
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From: THOMAS NIETFELD                        Number: 14175
  To: JOSEPH TELLER                            Date: 02/14/94  9:56a
Subj: Wiccan material                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Joe, you are mistaken in stating that there is no relationship between Wican
and occultism and Satanism.  The relationship is symbiotic and historical in
that wicca was, by its own account, destroyed by the burning times and only
once again reborn in the late nineteenth c.  It then borrowed much from the
neo-gothic satanic tradition that they had supposedly acquired from the old
wiccan tradition.  If you would read about nineteenth and early twentieth c.
wiccan, rosicrucian, and masonic pioneers and Drawing Down the Moon's  section
on Satanism you would no longer be able to honestly deny the relationship.
They are not the same thing but they are related as some Christians insist
they are.

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14176
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 02/14/94  7:54a
Subj: CD-ROM Spec's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (11 Feb 94) Gordon Peterson wrote to Vic Hlushak...

 GP> VH>problem. The thing to remember is that a cd is _very_ much slower
 GP> than a
 GP> VH>floppy and are mostly usefull for storing large amounts of data, ie
 GP> VH>shareware disks etc.
 GP>
 GP> I think you mean they're "very much slower than a hard drive" but even
 GP> that is less true now with the double, triple, and quad speed CD-ROM
 GP> drives.  The quad-speed drives, at 600kb/sec, are not that far off
 GP> what
 GP> MFM hard drives used to give... normally about 700kb/sec.
 GP>
 GP> Floppy drives are quite a bit slower than even single-speed CD-ROM
 GP> drives.

when you say 600kb/sec you are talking about data throughput.  The
average access speed is about 200ms for a good cdrom.  The average
access speed for a floppy is about 66ms so therefore a floppy is faster
than a cdrom.  Many people think that a cdrom is quite fast when in
reality the access times are very slow.  Now when we talk thrughput the
quad speed drives have very nice numbers, however the 200ms comes into
play in the drive head assembly getting to the first bit of information
requested. In the old days the average access time for a cassette drive
was in the order of minutes, we were so happy to get a little better
with the first floppys, and now floppys are considered to be sooo much
slower than HDD's.  I welcome your reply but using the best numbers
available floppys are faster than cdrom's when average access times are
what I was talking about. You are correct to say that throughput is
higher for the faster cdroms though!

... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14177
  To: CARL BENSON                              Date: 02/14/94  8:23a
Subj: CD-ROM Spec's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (08 Feb 94) Carl Benson wrote to Vic hlushak...

 CB>  > problem. The thing to remember is that a cd is _very_
 CB>  > much slower than a
 CB>  > floppy and are mostly usefull for storing large
 CB>  > amounts of data, ie
 CB> A floppy diskdrive is ALOT slower than a CD-drive, in case you don't
 CB> have a CD-ROM with 1000ms of access time or something..a floppy-drive
 CB> maybe has 500ms MINIMUM!

Thanks for the opinion however the average access time for a modern 3.5
floppy is 66 to 100ms, depending on if you are looking at 1/3 or 1/2
stroke. Since a good cdrom is about 200ms then the floppy is faster.
Look it up and then get back to me.



... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14178
  To: MARCUS LEE                               Date: 02/14/94 12:23p
Subj: CD Games                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (07 Feb 94) Marcus Lee wrote to All...

 ML>  A > Rotor/Airball/Time Bandit: Three already-popular video games come
 ML> to
 ML>  A > CD.
 ML>  A >                each one a high-action test of your skill. 18
 ML> missions
 ML>  A >                2 player options. Extra bonus: megabytes of GIF
 ML> space
 ML>  A > ...............$27.00....for MAC...$52.00
 ML>
 ML> Could someone tell me what these are REALLY like? I mean they all


Well, stay away from the Rotor disc.  I bought it for my kid and he
looked at it once and then could'nt be bothered again.  It looks like
three DOS games stuck on a cd.

... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14179
  To: MATT CRICH                               Date: 02/14/94 12:36p
Subj: CD-ROM Specs.                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (13 Feb 94) Matt Crich wrote to All...

 MC> Question To All:
 MC>
 MC> When a magazine ad/review lists the average seek time of a CD-ROM, are
 MC> they referrring to Full Stroke access or are they referring to 1/3
 MC> stroke access. My dealer assured me the Mitsumi drive that I bought
 MC> had an average seek time of 250 ms. For such an inexpensive drive I
 MC> found this claim to be remarkable. It was only after I purchased the
 MC> drive and was reading the spec sheet that I discovered he was quoting
 MC> the 1/3 stroke seek time. Is this normal, and can I do a direct
 MC> comparison with the various ads and reviews of other drives. Alos,
 MC> what would typical 1/3 stroke times of 3X drives be??

Matt,

The industry standard is to use 1/3 stroke access times to arrive at a
average access figure.  Same thing applies to floppys.  Your Mitsumi
must be the newer one with respectable numbers!  My Texel is rated at
265ms (1/3 stroke) so you can do comparisons.  Some companies do use 1/2
stroke but i havn't seen one of those in a while now.

TTYL

... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 14180
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/15/94 11:45a
Subj: Re: Pioneer Changers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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  To: Boris Osadciw                          Recvd:
Subj: Re: Pioneer Changers                      Conf: Cdrom
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-> It maybe the largest dealer you buy from, but it's not the largest!

DC>That's your opinion.  Since I didn't tell you who it was, it would be a
DC>little hard for you to argue the point, wouldn't you say?

-> all over the country. In fact, we have a standing order for 50 units
-> right now, NOT SOLD mind you, just for inventory purpose. We received
-> 15 units and they shipped to a number of customers already. We're
-> told now that the

DC>Blowing smoke, huh?


Sorry to JUMP in but I just like to say I deal with you and Boris and
I'm very happy with ya'll. I don't care who's the biggest or smallest
both of you run your company's very well. Keep up the good work.
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    SWAMP THANG BBS-24 CD's Online-USR 21.6-Marrero, LA [phone]
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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 14181
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/15/94 11:51a
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE C                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE C                      Conf: Personal
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->    Are You Shipping TOP DRAWER now.

DC>Yes, sure are.

I got it yesterday and have it set up on the board, NICE JOB!
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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 14182
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 02/14/94  3:14p
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
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GP>TL>HR>BF| Last point - try finding a multi-disc CD-ROM drive with ANY non-SC
GP>TL>HR>  |- interface... you won't, they don't EXIST.

GP>TL>HR>Since Panasonic can daisy chain up to 4 drives, I presume it uses a
GP>TL>HR>pripriatory SCSI 40 wire cable setup?

GP>TL>Its not panasonic that can daisy chain, but the scsi card controller
GP>TL>that you can add seven devices whether they be panasonic minichangers,

GP>Panasonic doesn't (to my knowledge) make a minichanger, and the
GP>Panasonic drive (the CR-562 anyhow) is chainable (4 drives) and is NOT
GP>SCSI.

GP>TL>scsi hard drives, scsi tape drives, etc. and they use 50 pin cables. Can

GP>SCSI uses a 50-pin cable, I think the Panasonic drives use a 40-pin
GP>cable.  Again, they are NOT SCSI.

GP> * SLMR 2.1 *


GP>--- WM v2.07/92-0654
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When you know what you are talking about, then say something. Panasonic
I have has a 50 pin (cause its scsi) and we were talking about daisy
chaining and yes panasonic does make minichangers (at least thats what
we (those that have em) call em).

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 14183
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/14/94  6:06p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 a lawsuits                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Evan!

Saturday February 12 1994 17:27, Evan Lim wrote to Doug Carpenter:

 MM>> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for
 MM>> $250,000 for using their
 DR>> If Disney goes after Night Owls, you can bet
 DR>> they'll go after SysOps running
 DR>> the disc on-line next.  That's usually the sequenct of events...  ;-(
 DC>> I heard that as well, and they have since recut the disc without any
 DC>> Disney images.  Disney is suing the distributors as well.  I hear
 DC>> Warner will be suing people for having Startrek stuff on their CDs
 DC>> soon and I think others are suing for having their music available on

 EL> I don't think it is the responsibility of the user, but of the original
 EL> company themselves...  unless they ship each of us a writable CD player &
 EL> have us erase them (yea right)...  Sux!  EL

You happen to be entering your message from one of the states where you can be
"gotten" for making such files available for download on your BBS.  That's the
whole point of this thread:  Night Owl Publisher is potentially opening up MANY
sysops to litigation that MOST of us sysops cannot afford.

Later,

Dave

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From: JEFF LAPLANTE                          Number: 14184
  To: NICK HONDA                               Date: 02/14/94  6:31p
Subj: CD-ROM in MV'S 2xFusionCD16 KIT         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Nick,

 About your CD-ROM dilemma.  I have a Pro-Audio Spectrum 16 Sound card and have
it mated with a TEXEL CD-ROM drive.  It has a very fast access time, under 280
ms. and works beautifully with the card.  There is only 2 drives available from
TEXEL, one is internal and one external.  I have the internal version.  I
bought my system with the card and drive as a package pre-installed.  The ROM
is SCSI.  I don't know the exact price of the drive, however, you could call
Crutchfield Computer dept. at 1-800-388-7700 to find out if you could get one
from them and to see what else they know about the drive.

   Hope this helps,

 73

Jeff LaPlante

   SysOp HAMBBS The best in Amateur Radio Support!  [phone]


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From: GRANT DEASON                           Number: 14185
  To: MATT CRICH                               Date: 02/14/94  4:45p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 For Windows                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To: MATT CRICH
Subject: OS/2 2.1 For Windows

MC>Thanx for the info. Was able to D/L MITFX.ZIP from C'Serve and the README
  >file held my hand thru out the entire installation. The jury's still out
  >whether the OS/2 Workplace is superior to Window's Desktop but we'll
  >continue to evaluate for a couple of weeks.  Incidentally, you would'nt
  >know anything about compatability problems with OS/2 and my Diamond Viper
  >card would you?  Works fine in VGA mode but flickers like crazy in SVGA.
  >Tried to find a Diamond forum on C'Serve but couldn't. Again, thanx for t
  >help.


Glad my advice was helpful.  As for your Diamond problem, I can't say I share
that problem as I don't have the card.  Since you're on CServe, check out
their IBM OS/2 support forum.  They're very helpful on there and usually have
a fast turnaround on questions.
-=-
 * QMPro 1.52 * Hospital Six:  We'll turn your lights out for you.

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From: GRANT DEASON                           Number: 14186
  To: VOLKER MEYER                             Date: 02/14/94  4:46p
Subj: Kq6                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VM>Hi there!

VM>Is anyone around here playing Kq6 currently? I could use some hints.



Yeah, I've played and completed it several ways.  Netmail me or reply here for
assistance.
-=-
 * QMPro 1.52 * This tagline does not supply iodide, a necessary nutrient

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From: GRANT DEASON                           Number: 14187
  To: TONY STOTT                               Date: 02/14/94  4:48p
Subj: Cd-rom And Qemm                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS>Could you please name the programs which won't run in 590k? Seriously, as
  >I don't know of any

Hmmm...seems like all of X-wing's features won't work unless you have more
memory available.  Could be wrong, though.  Wing Commander II comes to mind as
well.  Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego (Deluxe) also exhibited peculiar
behavior with such a memory configuration.















































TS>                                                                        -
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-=-
 * QMPro 1.52 * Ah, the first robin of spring.  *<BURP>*

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From: GRANT DEASON                           Number: 14188
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 02/14/94  4:53p
Subj: CD-ROM and QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

AG>Thanks.  I've had excellent results with QEMM since 1987.

AG>But... am I misreading you?  ARE you or AREN'T you still using DOS 6?

AG>And, have you "upgraded" to 6.2 ?  (The unmitigated GALL of Micro$oft,
  >to charge money to provide bug-fixes!)

Sorta...trying to migrate over to OS/2, but using MS-DOS 6.2 in the interim.
The aforementioned gall is one of the major reason's I'm switching OS's.

AG>   GD> QEMM made it possible for me to optimize all 5 of my boot-up
  >   GD> configurations with minimal effort...

AG>Just curious... why 5?

Can we say OVERKILL boys and girls?  I had one to load my CD-ROM driver (since
it ate more base memory under MEMMAKER than QEMM, it was sorta left over).
Another for XMS memory optimization, another for EMS (for games that required
it, like Xwing), another for a 'clean' boot-up (no TSRs and such) and another
default to load my BBS.

Due to the versatility of QEMM, I was able to cut down my multiple boot
configs to 3 instead of 5...since QEMM allowed me much more base memory,
regardless of the presence of the CD-ROM driver.  Plus, QEMM's ability for
XMS and EMS to share was very helpful to me.
-=-
 * QMPro 1.52 * To be honest, you're a good dane but not a great dane.

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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 14189
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/15/94  1:45a
Subj: Re: AUD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Evan Lim to William T. Mcclain <=-

 EL> -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when William T. Mcclain blurted out ≡=-
 DT>the BBS community whilst stocks last, so please mention this ad! (The price
 DT>are in $AUD.)
 DT>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60
 DT>   - full length movie + much more!
 JF> Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so "special"
 JF> considering CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this same CD for $29.95 in
 JF> both PC and MAC versions. What gives?
 WTM> you quoted. He plainly stated that the prices are in $AUD. This means
 WTM> Australian dollars. Check the exchange rate. It's like comparing
 WTM> apples to oranges to compare his price to a US quoted price.
 EL> What is the xchange rate?  EL

 Hi, Evan. A few days ago it was about 1.4 AUD for 1.00 USD. Point I was
 trying to make is that people in the US should realize this is an
 international echo and act accordingly.


... See ya later.              -Mac-
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From: DAVE DRURY                             Number: 14190
  To: BRYAN ANSLOW                             Date: 02/12/94 10:17a
Subj: Cover CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Bryan,

Quoting your message of Fri, 11 Feb 1994 to All
on the subject of Cover CD's

 BA> Does anyone know where the plastic CD cases can be obtained
 BA> from at a non-ripoff price.

Maplin Electronics (0702 554161) have single CD Library cases at 65p and
doubles at £1.35

Regards

Dave

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From: JON ROCH-BERRY                         Number: 14191
  To: HIGHLAND                                 Date: 02/11/94  9:31p
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: JUSTIN HAMILTON                        Number: 14192
  To: LON SEIDMAN                              Date: 02/11/94 11:30p
Subj: Re: JFK Review                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LS> occasionally gets too overwhelming.  Despite this shortcoming, JFK
LS> Assassination:  A Visual Investigation is well worth purchasing.

Sounds good, how much, and where??

Tme

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From: JUSTIN HAMILTON                        Number: 14193
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:37p
Subj: CDROM Sources in the USA                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone out there in the USA supply CD ROM drives to the UK??  Or maybe
someone has the address or fax number of somewhere...

Thanks

Tme

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From: SIMON BOOTH                            Number: 14194
  To: BRYAN ANSLOW                             Date: 02/12/94  1:23p
Subj: Re: Cover CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Brian,

 => Quoting Bryan Anslow to All <=

 BA> Does anyone know where the plastic CD cases can be obtained from at a
 BA> non-ripoff price.

How much do they cost at Smiths etc then ? I paid 50p each last time I
bought some to house the placcy wallet variety cover mounted variety.

Simon

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From: ED STILSON                             Number: 14195
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/14/94 11:26p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11 a lawsuits             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Re: Re: NIGHT OWL 11 a lawsuits

>  -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Doug Carpenter blurted out ≡=-
>  MM> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for
>  MM> $250,000 for using their
>  DR> If Disney goes after Night Owls, you can bet
>  DR> they'll go after SysOps running
>  DR> the disc on-line next.  That's usually the sequenct of events...  ;-(
>  DC> I heard that as well, and they have since recut the disc without any
>  DC> Disney images.  Disney is suing the distributors as well.  I hear
>  DC> Warner will be suing people for having Startrek stuff on their CDs
>  DC> soon and I think others are suing for having their music available on
> I don't think it is the responsibility of the user, but of the original
> company themselves...  unless they ship each of us a writable CD player &
> have us erase them (yea right)...  Sux!  EL
> ... (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer.
> --- Blue Wave/SBBS v2.12 [NR]


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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 14196
  To: DAVE WONG                                Date: 02/14/94 10:47p
Subj: CD DISK TRADE FOR SIMMS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Wicked staring teri Weigle (adult) trade for 2 meg
> Busty Babes 2 (adult)
> Total Fantasy - made in Denmark- (hardcore adult) trade 2 meg
> -More-Iron Helix -trade for 2 meg-
> Dracula Unlease -trade for 2 meg-

        You would'nt happen to trade CD's for CD's. That total fantasy sounds
interesting. I'vr got rebel Assult and a thing called Southern Beauties(600
megs of 1024 gifs)
                                                ..jig....

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 14197
  To: ALTON MORRELL                            Date: 02/14/94 10:51p
Subj: CD-ROM SCSI DRIVER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I HAVE A NEC MultiSpin 3X CD-ROM PLAYER.
> I ALSO HAVE AN AHA-1540CF/1542CF SCSI BOARD AND A SOUND BLASTER PRO
> ADAPTEC SCSI.
> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME TO FIND THE SOFTWARE TO GET MY PLAYER UP AND
> RUNNING.

        You can call NEC at 1-800-NEC-INFO and ask them, although I don't
advise you wait on the Tech suport line, I waited on it 2 hours twice and when
I put th ephone down for a minute they seem to hangup.

        They also have a BBS, 1-508-635-6000. I think I called it once but
can't really remember.

        But the best place to find it is to call your Adaptec company and ask
them if they have a BBS or if they can send you the drivers. If you need some
more help just reply.

                                        ..jig...

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From: JIGER DESAI                            Number: 14198
  To: BRANDON MULLER                           Date: 02/14/94 10:58p
Subj: THE LAWNMOWER MAN                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I just bought the new game "The Lawnmower Man" on CD-ROM.  It says
> that it is a 256 color game.  However when I play it on my system, it
> looks almost ega.  The even stranger thing is that it supports SVGA,
> which I have, yet it doesn't ask for it.  If anyone knows anything
> more about this, please help.

        On some games if you don't have a VESA driver loaded then the game will
nto work at all and specifically tell you that you don't have a VESA driver
loaded. Although on certain games, possibly lawnmover man, they game will use a
backward resolution compability.

        See the game might think that because you don't have a VESA driver
loaded that you don't have a SVGA monitor or a SVGA card. So to let you at
least play it goes to a back ward compability of may be 320x200VGA which is so
much worse compared ro 640x480. Hope that helps. Do you have a VESA driver and
the other thing loaded also(to inilsih you monitor as hi-res)?

                        ..jig...

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From: MIKE CONVRY                            Number: 14199
  To: BETTY GAETZ                              Date: 02/14/94 12:11p
Subj: Re: Nec 3xi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BG> Is anyone running a PAS-16 with the NEC triple speed 3xi-(internal)?
I have a PAS-16 and am thinking about the 3xi. Any kind of info would be
appreciated. Thanks.....

I have one with this combo. I just got a the beginning of the week. It
was easy to install (you need to buy an audio cable to hook up to the
sound card, the SCSI cable is included). Everything runs great and the
audio cd controls on the front are great for playing music while
in dos. Good luck. Hope this helped.

   OLX 3.01 31-0440   Is this tagline really necessary?

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From: MIKE BARBALAS                          Number: 14200
  To: JIM STANDING                             Date: 02/15/94  2:15a
Subj: Stock prices                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your reply.

 JS> Have not found a CD yet, but have found a great source
 JS> through TC2000 services.



 JS> Program will also chart stocks.  If you want more info..let
 JS> me know.

I would be interested in the TC2000 services.  What can you tell me?
I am currently using Compuserve but do not like to run up huge bills doing
prospective work.

I look forward to your reply.  I will be traveling much of the next six
weeks but will check in from time to time.

Mike.



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From: FABIO ROSSETTI                         Number: 14201
  To: PIETROPAOLO BIANCHI                      Date: 02/09/94  2:14p
Subj: medical & scientific                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PB>Hi all. I am trying to locate CD ROM titles relating to the following
PB>fields:
PB>- Medicine (professional level) (all branches, including

Hi, The Bidoner 8^)

In Scientific American (besides lots of other material) I see an
advertisement for Scientific American Medicine on CD (SAM-CD). It's a
quarterly updated Mac or PC CD-ROM with general reference material aimed
primarily at pratictioners (i think). No price just this ENGLISH address
for info:

W.H.Freeman & Company
20 Beaumont Street
OXFORD OX1 2nQ ENGLAND
TEL [phone]
FAX [phone]

I also have read lots of reviews about 'Pocket Doctor' or 'Medical
Encyclopedia' type CD-ROMs, but I don't think that's what you're
interested into. Funniest of all them, a 'pill' reference :-)


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From: LUCA SPADA                             Number: 14202
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/11/94  2:39p
Subj: Re: Top Drawer Released!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of 08 Feb 94 , Jim Lambert writes to All:

 JL>                             Top Drawer
 JL>                 That's right a
 JL> great ShareWare ROM
 JL>                             for $19.00

Seems cool!!

Can you please tell me the dupes % against the following CDs:

Night Owl's 11
CD PowerBox II
Cream of The Crop #2

Ciao!
Sky Luke ([e-mail])


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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 14203
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  4:53p
Subj: Cd-roms 4 Sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
 Ship to USA ONLY. 02/15/94 BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331
     Mastercard, Visa, COD, and Prepay welcome.
Chessmaster 4000 (OEM).....................................  $21.95
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 1994 (Win-OEM)..........  $67.95
Dracula Unleashed (OEM)....................................  $34.95
Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0  1994 (Windows)........  $39.95
Iron Helix (Win-OEM).......................................  $35.95
MS Bookshelf 93 for Windows (OEM)..........................  $37.95
ProPhone National Edition 4th Quarter 1993 (7 disc set)....  $69.95
Software Vault Platinum Collection 1/94....................  $22.95

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From: DAVID SCHMOLL                          Number: 14204
  To: DON DOMERESE                             Date: 02/15/94 11:43a
Subj: Senile Smile                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DD> I havent gotten that far yet, into scripting that is, just
DD> dont have the time right now. Working 7 dayz a week.

I understand what you mean by finding the time to write the
script, but in my case I don't have the time to wait to get
online without one!

DD> I've just gotten thru to Cybermiga and got set up and
DD> validated. Kinda hard to use as there's no way to set a max
DD> number of messages downloaded at any one time. No 64/128 file
DD> areas either. :-(

Hehehehe... the only time I downloaded a QWK packet from
Cybermiga it packed all new messages for both the 64 and 128
echo's (750 messages)! I mainly use Cybermiga to read any
personal mail the night before, so I have an idea what may be
coming in my main mail packet from the Hammer - unfortunately,
Cybermiga has been behind the Silver Hammer, so that isn't
working out anymore:(  The only Board that I know of that has the
echo's and C= files is The Silver Hammer. King's Market I think
has a few C= files but doesn't carry the C= Echo's, it does carry
Fido though (665-6091), and maybe he could be persuaded to carry
the C= Echo's now. The Vault (779-1634) has the 128 echo.

I assume you know about Batcave 252-0735? A C= board run on a
128 - the number is always busy, as the board is very popular!

To those interested all area codes are (303).

                             David Schmoll


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From: BERT JONES                             Number: 14205
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 02/14/94  9:09p
Subj: Drop                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



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From: GREGORY HOPKINS                        Number: 14206
  To: NICK HONDA                               Date: 02/14/94  7:02p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Upgrading Tips and Advice    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Mon 31-Jan-1994 10:59p, Nick Honda wrote:
NH> BBSers,
NH>         Currently I own an NEC Single Speed CD ROM drive that was
NH> purchased as  part of a multimedia upgrade kit. However, speed is
NH> definitely the downside  with single speed drives. I am looking to upgrade
NH> to a double speed drive and  would appreciate any help and advice you can
NH> give me as to which brand and  model number rom is the best. I have heard

Buy as fast a one as you can afford.. ive got a quad speed (612kb/sec), and its
barely fast enough to suit me... Ive had BAD luck with a Chinnon one... however
my current one (Pioneer) has been perfect, and reliable, and fast.

Ive also heard of Texel being very reliable, and price competitive...

Greg
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From: BOB DUNN                               Number: 14207
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/13/94  1:48p
Subj: MUSIC THROUGH SPEAKERS?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Mitsumi Doublespeed CD-ROM with a Sound Galaxy 16 sound
card. Does anyone know what I can do to get a music CD to play
through the soundcard and speakers, and not just the headphone
jack?
                                            Thanks,
                                                 Bob
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From: GREGORY HOPKINS                        Number: 14208
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94 12:00a
Subj: BBS Ready                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a bbs ready (FILES.BBS or FILES.PCB) disk of MACINTOSH shareware...
I run a fairly large non-mac run BBS with a large share of Mac users, and a
DRM-604x cd rom changer. I want to put a disk online for my mac users... Any
help would be appreciated..

Also:  What are some of the recomendations for other BBS ready PC shareware
disks... I run NO11 right now, and would like to add another PC shareware disk
now also...

Thanks In Advance

Greg
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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 14209
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/12/94 10:20p
Subj: Re: Top Drawer Stats                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL> It's on the way, John.  Give me a call if you have any questions.
JL>
Thanks for the prompt response Jim, I have been running Pier 3, but am looking
for a wider breadth of material, hopefully there is a file_id.diz for every
file on the disk, as I have never really gotten the results I wanted from
renefile, cdupld or any of the other renegade files.bbs importers, I have
tried 3 of them, I wanted the whole descriptions but it kept reading in the
first 2/3 of the first line of the description.  I am hoping to upload them
one at a time locally by hitting the enter key a lot!
Again thanx for the prompt response.
-John

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From: GARY STIMPSON                          Number: 14210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  4:44p
Subj: Electronics Boutique #                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * This message forwarded from area 'AMIGA' (AMIGA)
 * Original message dated 14 Feb 94, from Gary Stimpson

From: [e-mail]
Date: 9 Feb 94 10:11:04 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-Host: vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Lines: 20

--
I have called a couple of Electronics boutique stores.  Some of them
were very optomistic and said most likely they will be carrying the
CD32 game system, while others said it probably wont happen.

I called the 1-800 customer service number, and I told the nice lady
that I would like to see their stores carry the CD32!  She wrote my
name down, and told me she would send me a catalog...  There needs to
be more people calling and requesting the CD32 system and games.  They
said they are doing a survey of customers on the CD32, and everyone
here should call in and tell them you want the CD32 (This is how the
Jaguar got into electronics boutique).

The number to call is 1-800-800-5166, and tell them that you want them
to carry the CD32 System and games in their stores, and tell them if
you have any friends who are also interested in a CD32!
---
Gene Ruebsamen
Email: [e-mail]
 ----=====< V I C - 2 0 >=====-----
      ******// CD 32 //******

-- EOF --

Give them a call if you live in the USA!  Every little bit helps.

Gary

... The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up.

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From: NOEL HUPE                              Number: 14211
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94 12:11p
Subj: panasonic dspin563                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

to all,
     i'm running os2 2.1,with a sbpro deluxe,8bit sound card.i have an
opportunity to buy panasonic double spin 563 cd-rom for a decent
price,including installation.my question is ,will it it work properly in os2?i
need to know asap,thank you,ttyl,noel.


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From: JERRY THOMSON                          Number: 14212
  To: CRAIG MYERS                              Date: 02/14/94  6:06p
Subj: Good Dealers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a note that I did place an order with StarVector and used a credit card.
Just recieved the disk and all went well.  So, at this point I can reccomend
both CONFIG.SYS and Starvector as reliable non-rip off dealers.  Haven't yet
had any dealings with others on this echo..

Jerry

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From: JERRY THOMSON                          Number: 14213
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/15/94  2:54a
Subj: "bad" dealers                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

*** Quoting Mike Shannon to Jerry Thomson dated 02-13-94 ***
> Excuse my ignorance, but when/how did you place your order?  I show no
> record of you in our computer database under that name.  You have me
> really
> curious, so please reply or call me, OK?  Thanks.


HAHAHA....  I asked my girlfriend to order it for me...  Her name is J.
Sidebottom....   Wondered if you would pick up on that one...  Check under that
last name and you will find it.  I have her make my appointments etc., as I'm
never around to get personal things done due to my heavy work load...

Jerry

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From: RON BRUMLOW                            Number: 14214
  To: LEW MURRAY                               Date: 02/15/94  9:08p
Subj: Re: Encarta                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >CompUSA has it on sale here locally for $99
 >___
 > X OLX 2.1 TD X Press "+" to see another tagline.
 >
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CompUSA's "sales" price leaves a lot to be desired then since that has been
MicroSoft's full retail on the '94 update has been $99 US as an interductory
offer.

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From: DUDLEY HILL                            Number: 14215
  To: SEAN BEGGS                               Date: 02/13/94 12:50p
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Sean,
    Sorry but the 7th guest has already been sold.
                                Dudley


... Superstitions bring bad luck!
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From: ROGER CRONIN                           Number: 14216
  To: FEEK                                     Date: 02/14/94  5:30p
Subj: new pc give me a call                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hay feek whats up give me a call tonight
\
/


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From: GUY STEWART                            Number: 14217
  To: SHAWN RATNER                             Date: 02/14/94 11:54a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Shawn Ratner to All <=-

 SR> Hi,
 SR> When I run cd's on my Cd-Rom with video segments on them, they
 SR> usually freeze. It has been suggested to me that I should grade
 SR> my Vio Card from 512k to 1mb memory, they said thathis should

While it is best to have all the memory you can get on your video card,
and as much RAM as you can afford on your video card, you might want
to increase the size of the buffer memory (/M parameter)
in your config.sys file.  Hope this help.

Guy...

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From: GUY STEWART                            Number: 14218
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/14/94 11:54a
Subj: Re: FREE CDROM CATALOG                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 Please send me one of those catalogs. My address is:

   Guy Stewart
   3306 Cimarron Dr.
   Orlando, FL 32829


Thank you,

Guy...

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From: GUY STEWART                            Number: 14219
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/14/94 11:54a
Subj: Re: !free Cd Catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Please send a catalog to:

Guy Stewart
3306 Cimarron Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829

Thank you

Guy...


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From: OWEN WINTERS                           Number: 14220
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/15/94 12:03p
Subj: cd rom catalogue                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me your CD offerings.

Owen Winters
130 Azalea Drive
Roswell, GA  30075

Thank You!
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From: OWEN WINTERS                           Number: 14221
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/15/94 12:04p
Subj: CD ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me your catalogue on diskette.

Owen Winters
130 Azalea Drive
Roswell, GA  30075

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From: OWEN WINTERS                           Number: 14222
  To: WARREN KREICK                            Date: 02/15/94 12:19p
Subj: Adult CD ROMs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you still have some Adult CDROMs to sell/trade?  I'm interested in buying
if the $$ is right.  What do you have/what will you take?  Call 404-594-9367
daytime and ask for me. (Collect is OK)  Or post here.  Thanks!
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From: ALLEN DIETZ                            Number: 14223
  To: JEAN-DANIEL GREUB                        Date: 02/13/94  9:06a
Subj: Re: MEDICAL & SCIENTIFIC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG>J am interessed too about CD-Roms for medicine and
JG>biochemistry (level University and College, for children
JG>from 12 years to 16 years).

Creative Multimedia Corporation has several medical journals on
CD-ROM, including:

American Family Physician (1985-1993)
The New England Journal of Medicine (1991-1993)
Pediatrics on Disc (1985-1993)
Pediatrics Review and Education Program (1985-1993)
Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal (1985-1993)
1993 Mosby Year Books (including Medicine, Family Practice, Pediatrics,
   Neonatal/Perinatal, Dermatology, Diagnostic Radiology, Drug Therapy,
   Emergency Medicine, Sports Medicine, OB/GYN, and Psychology/Applied
   Mental Health Year Books.)

Retail price is $295.00 U.S. per disc.

CMC also sells several consumer discs related to medicine, including
"The Family Doctor, 3rd Edition," and "Parenting: Prenatal to
Preschool.  Retail price of each of these discs is $80.00 U.S.

You can reach Creative Multimedia Corporation at:

514 NW 11th Ave., Ste 203
Portland, OR  97209

503-241-4351 (voice)
503-241-4370 (FAX)

Hope this helps.

Allen


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From: SCOTT WEEMS                            Number: 14224
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  5:28a
Subj: Computer & Hardware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ok peoples I gotta sell this stuff, bill collectors are starting to hound
me.(g)

1)  1 ea Packard Bell 416sx (386), VGA Monitor, 40 Meg HD, 256K mem, 5.25
floppy. works great, make a excellant second for the kids, $350.00.

2)  2 ea 80 meg Maxtor, guarenteed to work, $80.00.

3)  2 ea Sony External Dual CD-Rom's specs:

    Data Transfer rate
      sustained transfer rate:   150 KBytes/s
      burst transfer rate:       2.1 MBytes/s

    Access Time
     full Stroke:         0.95
     average:             0.55

w/docs and card, $450.00 ea or $800.00 for both
These are excellant drives for a BBS or anything else.

This stuff has gotta go and at these prices it should!
No trades, money talks!

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From: DEBORAH HAESELER                       Number: 14225
  To: RICK DUNLAP                              Date: 02/12/94  9:08a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVER                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RD>    Excuse me for butting in. I have the Lasermate CD-ROM. The drive is
 RD> a
 RD>    CR-562B. It has the Matsushita drive. It is sold under the
 RD> Panasonic brand
 RD>    name. Matsushita is the parent company.
 RD>    I must say however, that the drive was the easiest install, I've
 RD> ever
 RD>    done. The software did all the work with no problems.
 RD>    IMHO the drive is an excellent value.

Then it sounds like you ought to know the answer to my burning
question: What in the world is going on with Matsushita CD-ROM
sales? More precisely, what exactly IS a CR-562B? Is it a sort
of generic model number that Matsushita sells to clone computer
shops, and they can advertise it as whatever brand name is
the hot seller that week? Is it a kind of "clone"?
   I have to tell you that I love my CD-ROM drive, and its price
was right on target. I was, however, *shocked* by the documentation.
It was completely generic, with no mention of Panasonic or even
Matsushita. I had also bought my husband a micro-cassette recorder
for Christmas. This little $39.95 tape recorder  by Panasonic has
a manual that uses the word Panasonic *constantly!* And mentions
Matshusita regularly, too.
   At the time I wrote my original echo post, I was seeing red
but because I was disappointed by the CD-ROM, but because
I had been reduced to paying the shop the that sold me the
darn thing $40 to install it. I had physically placed the
drive in my tower case, connected the sound card interface and
audio plug, but I could not attach the DC power plug because it
was defective -- the four little female connecters inside it were
loose. To check my theory, I did find I was able to connect
the drive to DC plugs already in use, but obviously I couldn't
give up a plug attached to something else, I don't know anything
about electrical wiring, so I realized I'd have to pay to fix it.
   I took the computer in to fix that faulty plug, and I
thought I had made it clear that I wanted to set up the software
myself, because I figure I ought to know what it does to
my start-up files. When I got the computer back, I was mad as
heck because the techie had installed completely different
software, did *not* even mention it or give me a disk with it (so
when my hard drive blows, as it surely will one day, I'll be stuck
manually altering the start-up file) -- and he did *not*
fix the faulty DC plug. Instead, he simply used a Y-plug adapter,
which is shared with floppy drive A.
   Maybe that's what you're supposed to do to power CD-ROM drives,
and maybe I should have known that (I certainly wish I had anyway).
But I felt I had been taken advantage of because I happen
to be woman.
  The software the techie installed made me wonder whether i had been
given the wrong software in the first place, since I couldn't
get the Soundblaster CD Installation software to recognize the
drive (granted, I was using some other hardware's DC plug!).
  Anyway, all these thing p/ut together made me wonder whether
the entire CD-ROM purchase had been rigged to ensure my havi,ng
to pay for installation.


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From: WONG THOMAS                            Number: 14226
  To: PRESTON VOOSEN                           Date: 02/11/94 11:15a
Subj: CD ROM and mouse                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PV> I have been having problems.  I recently installed a
 PV> multimedia upgrade kit with a CD ROM And a 16 bit
 PV> sound card (Sony).  After I installed the CD ROM I
 PV> noticed my mouse doesn't work.  I can take out the CD
 PV> ROM and sound drivers, and everything is fine again.
 PV> I called tech. support about it, and they couldn't
 PV> help me.  We went over conflictions, but we couldn't
 PV> find any reason of why there would be one.

     Your mouse driver must be residing in com1/2 >>> irq 3/4/5
     Use a IRQ/Interrupt aware program to check which IRQ you mouse
     is using and make sure you use a FREE IRQ for your cd-rom
     drivers. Reason why your mouse works after you took out all the cd drivers
     means it's using the same IRQ you mouse is using... reconfigure
     your cd-rom setup again and good luck




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From: WONG THOMAS                            Number: 14227
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/11/94 11:20a
Subj: Top Drawer Released!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Could you netmail me a copy of your catalog on cds you carry to
Fidonet@ 1:134/91





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From: WONG THOMAS                            Number: 14228
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:36a
Subj: Mitsumu LU005 Interface (16bit) WANTED !!!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Does anyone know where I can get a 16bit interface card for the single speed
Mitsumi LU005 cd-rom drive??? Would appreciate any info if you know which store
or someone who might be selling just the card w/o the cd-rom drive!






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From: HENRY HACHE                            Number: 14229
  To: SEAN BEGGS                               Date: 02/13/94  3:57p
Subj: 7Th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SB>Is anyone selling the 7th Guest?  If you're not a business (though I would
SB>like to see what any business is selling them for) is a trade possible?

SB>Thanks!
I'll be willing, let m,e see if I can find it.  Replay to this, and I'll
let you know.  What do you have to trade?

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From: HENRY HACHE                            Number: 14230
  To: ALAN HUMAN                               Date: 02/13/94  3:57p
Subj: 7Th Guest Help                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AH>A friend of mine is playing T7G and I've been feeding him with game tips
AH>from this conference.  He has asked me to see if anyone can help him
AH>with the following problem.  He is in the Sanctuary and there's a hole
AH>in the floor.  He can't figure out the puzzle.  He's been to the library
AH>twice and it says to follow the markings on the floor.  He doesn't see
AH>any markings.  Is this a hardware problem?  He would really appreciate
AH>any help with this.  He's been stuck in this area for quite a while.
AH>Thanks.

What sanctuary?  With the 3 color blocks?  If so, try stepping on the
blocks, try to make sure every 3rd block is purple.
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From: ANDREW SEE                             Number: 14231
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/12/94  5:12p
Subj: Texel 3024                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris, have you heard about CD's getting very hot inside the Texel
drive. When  I remove a caddy from the drive, it is physically quite
hot. Any ideas?

CheerZ

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From: ANDREW SEE                             Number: 14232
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/12/94  5:16p
Subj: Importing CD's to Oz                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PB>* What is the amount of import duty due?

None. It's software, and there's no tarriffs/duties on software.

PB>* What if I >shyly hides under table< wanted to import an adult rated
PB>title?  (I am well over 21)

No problem.

PB>* What is the preferred method of payment used for transactions with
PB>companies  overseas. (also through this echo)

Credit card.

PB>* Are there any CD restricted material that the Customs won't allow
PB>in. (such  as "Build Your Own Atomic Bomb" etc.)

Nope. And they probably haven't got the facility to view the disks. They
probably think it just Barry Manilows greatest hits.

PB>* Has anyone been hassled by the Customs over CD imports?

Not me.

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From: EUGENE CHAN                            Number: 14233
  To: RICHARD ROSENFELD                        Date: 02/13/94  2:46a
Subj: Iron Helix                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gadday Richard!

Nice to hear someone from over the Pacific Ocean. Can you tell me how much the
game is over there? It's pretty expensive here too, about $A130. Which game do
you recommend out of Helix and Journeyman Project? Also, is Star Trek Next
Generation out there yet?

Thanks

Eugene.

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From: EUGENE CHAN                            Number: 14234
  To: DANIEL FERNANDES                         Date: 02/13/94  2:56a
Subj: Cd-Rom Wanted...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

How much were you considering one for Daniel? 300? 350? Let me know and I could
help you out.

Eugene.

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From: EUGENE CHAN                            Number: 14235
  To: ANDREW SEE                               Date: 02/13/94  3:02a
Subj: Importing CD's to Oz                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gadday Andrew....

Could'nt help notice your msg about the above subject.....do you purchase your
games from overseas? Also, how much do you want for Critical Path?

Eugene.

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From: DANIEL TSUI                            Number: 14236
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/13/94  7:47a
Subj: Mpc Title Sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DT>mention this ad! (The prices
DT>are in $AUD.)

DT>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60
DT>   - full length movie + much more!

 JF> Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so "special"
 JF> considering CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this same CD for $29.95 in
 JF> both PC and MAC versions. What gives?

John, my ad included the above 2 lines indicating the currency was Australian
dollars.

daniel.

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From: STEPHEN RANSON                         Number: 14237
  To: STEVE SHARP                              Date: 02/10/94 10:22p
Subj: CR-522-B                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve,

On 05-Feb-94, at 10:20, Steve Sharp wrote to ALL
About: CR-522-B

 SS> Can anybody put me intouch with an OS/2 driver to suit the Panasonic
 SS> CR-522
 SS> drive and Sound Blaster Pro card?

I have a set of drivers for this combination, just call and give me an
address and I'll mail them to you.



Enjoy your CD-ROM.....  # Orders Only!-FreeCall 1-800-811190 #
Steve Ranson            # Payment: CASH, CHEQUE, CREDIT CARD #
Australian CD-ROM Club  # Voice 06-2915258    Fax [phone] #
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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 14238
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 02/13/94  8:55a
Subj: Canadian Cd Catalogue                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 01-29-94, in a colourful display of the English language, Jerry Murphy
said to Laurie Batt:-

JM>LB>And who say's its "Canadian Spelling"
JM>LB>We spell it the same here.
JM>
JM>But Laurie, in Oz the alphabet has only 26 letters, and in Canada ther
JM>are 52:
JM>
JM>a, eh?, b, eh? c, eh? ... z, eh?  :)

Actually the Oz alphabet is MUCH bigger:-
Bloody a, bloody b, bloody c etc etc <g>

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 14239
  To: LOUIS MAYS                               Date: 02/13/94  8:55a
Subj: Cdroms In Portables                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-07-94, in a colourful display of the English language, Louis Mays
said to All:-

LM>Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen a lap top computer
LM>(portable computer) with a built in CD-ROM player yet? I am interested
LM> I am a librarian and often take my "show" on the road for
LM>demonstration with my overhead projection panel. It would be nice to
LM>demonstrate my databases on CD-ROM with a built in player in a lap top
LM>computer.
LM>
LM>If not, how long do you think it will take the industry to develop suc
LM>a product?

It already exists! Toshiba make a high end multimedia portable, which has
a 486DX2/66, big active matrix colour screen, lift out keyboard, built in
stereo speakers, full size expansion slot (the one I saw had an Intel
video capture board fitted), 3.5" floppy, and cdrom drive, all internal.

Be prepared for a few shocks however!

1.      It ain't no A4 notebook, and I wouldn't want it on my
        lap for long!
2.      Retail price in Oz is equivalent of about $US15k :(

Does it do what you want? YES! It is a fully fledged professional
multimedia PC designed specifically for multimedia demos.
Good luck with your budget!

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 14240
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/13/94  8:55a
Subj: International Prices                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-07-94, in a colourful display of the English language, John Foster
said to Daniel Tsui:-

JF>DT>I have the following MPC Titles for sale in stock. These are our
JF>DT>specials to
JF>DT>the BBS community whilst stocks last, so please mention this ad!
JF>DT>(The prices are in $AUD.)
JF>
JF>DT>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60
JF>DT>   - full length movie + much more!
JF>
JF>Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so "special"
JF>considering CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this same CD for $29.95 in
JF>both PC and MAC versions. What gives?
JF>

John, he said (and you quoted him yourself above) "prices are in $AUD"
This means AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS, because he is in Australia... This
is a world-wide echo, and different markets have different pricing
structures. While one $AUD presently only buys 71.5 cents US currency,
we Aussies generally have more disposable funds due to other factors,
(eg taxes, rental, food etc) so $AUD 60 is probably as affordable to
us as $US30 is to you.

Does that make sense? (Of course Daniel might also be trying to rob
us Aussies blind as well, but that's another story!<grin>)


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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 14241
  To: SEAN BEGGS                               Date: 02/13/94  8:55a
Subj: Tagline                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-07-94, in a colourful display of the English language, Sean Beggs
said to All Sysops:-

SB>Would the sysops from the BBSs receiving this echo mind attaching thei
SB>city, province/state & country to the board's tagline? There are some
SB>who do not and it would be nice knowing what country the person to who
SB>we're speaking comes from.
SB>
SB>Please?  :)
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Erm... which country is that? (only joking, how's the ice-hockey!)



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From: GEOFF NEAL                             Number: 14242
  To: ALEX COLQUITT                            Date: 02/13/94  8:16p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hurry the waters are rising...

I actually got Encarta for $199, I was quoted up to $249 from various sources.

Got any bargains ???



Geoff

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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 14243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  3:35a
Subj: CDROM Specials (Aust.)                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Return To Zork (OEM) ..... $55
Mayo Clinic .............. $35
Groliers V6 1994 ......... $82
Hobbes OS/2 (October 93) . $19
Software Vault Windows ... $32

Above prices valid until the end of February

Catalogue available on-line or FREQ CDCAT.LZH

Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
Voice/Fax:[phone]   BBS:(043) 23-9076   Fido: 3:711/440
         VISA * MASTERCARD * BANKCARD * COD * CHEQUE


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From: MIKE CHARETTE                          Number: 14244
  To: ALEX MOTTRAM                             Date: 02/12/94  7:45p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Alex Mottram to Charles W. Evans <=-

 AM> +-
 AM> Correction:  One needs a vesa driver if his card is not supported by
 AM> the program itself.  :)  Won't support SVGA on a 386?
 AM> Please don't tell my 386DX40 that.  It was doing it just
 AM> fine this morning (but it's not recommended).  :)


I don't see why you can't run the game on a 386, maybe you video card
should be upgraded to 1 mg.

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From: MATT CRICH                             Number: 14245
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  6:24p
Subj: CD-ROM Specs.                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Question To All:

When a magazine ad/review lists the average seek time of a CD-ROM, are they
referrring to Full Stroke access or are they referring to 1/3 stroke access. My
dealer assured me the Mitsumi drive that I bought had an average seek time of
250 ms. For such an inexpensive drive I found this claim to be remarkable. It
was only after I purchased the drive and was reading the spec sheet that I
discovered he was quoting the 1/3 stroke seek time. Is this normal, and can I
do a direct comparison with the various ads and reviews of other drives. Alos,
what would typical 1/3 stroke times of 3X drives be??

Matt

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From: PAUL NUSBAUM                           Number: 14246
  To: STEVE GOYER                              Date: 02/13/94 10:23p
Subj: OS/2 for Windows                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Steve Goyer wrote in a message to All:

SG> I'm looking for OS/2 for Windows on CDROM.  I heard the v2.2
SG> was just  released (or will soon be [?]).  I hear that the
SG> CD version is 39$ in  the states, up here in Canada I can
SG> only find it for 58 bucks... so I  thought I'd try and find
SG> a dealer who will sell it to me for 39 (or  less!).  I'm
SG> also interested in a copy of Night Owl 11...

    Hi!  I purchased OS/2 2.1 For Windows on CD ROM here in Ottawa 1.5 months
ago.  $60 was the selling price, Canadian.  If you want it for $40, you'd have
to go to the States.  However, either way you are now out of luck.  The
"special" low price apparently was for a limited time - I believe that as of
last week the price is now double that...  You should have bought if when you
saw it, that is the best you'll see unless you get it used.  TTYL

-Pn

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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 14247
  To: GEOFF NEAL                               Date: 02/14/94  8:08a
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GN>Hurry the waters are rising...

GN>I actually got Encarta for $199, I was quoted up to $249 from various source

GN>Got any bargains ???



Geoff

CompUSA has it on sale here locally for $99
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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 14248
  To: JOE HOUCHENS                             Date: 02/14/94  9:58a
Subj: aviation cd-disks                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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Date:                              Number:
From: Joe Houchens                       Refer#:
  To: Boris Osadciw                          Recvd:
Subj: aviation cd-disks                      Conf: Cdrom
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JH>  Boris, i have been seeing your ads on selling cd/dsks do you have any
JH>on Aviation {only}........and if theres a catolog or listings of the
JH>disks you have could you sent one....

Hi Joe,
     I bought a CD from Boris called flight 642. It's a nice CD if you are
into planes. We have it on our board if you like to take a look at it. Just
leave me a note and I will set it up for you.
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   + == ====== -== InterNET Address: [e-mail] ==-
               -== FidoNET Address:  Tom Miller@1:396/1 ==-
    SWAMP THANG BBS-24 CD's Online-USR 21.6-Marrero, LA [phone]
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From: LON LENTZ                              Number: 14249
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 02/13/94  6:14p
Subj: Re: Hitachi CD Rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Lon Lentz <=-

LL>  So right now I am running it without one and believe it is
LL> causing a slowdown  under Windows.
TB> No... that's just Windows.

 Well, thanx for the info. You wouldn't happen to know of a way that I
can speed things up to run mulitmedia video stuff, would you?


... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 14250
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/13/94  4:37p
Subj: CD-ROM SPEC'S                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > The current fastest CD-ROM drives have an average access time that
 > IS slower than most 40-track floppies but are about the same to
 > a HAIR faster than the 80 track floppies.

 > Data Transfer Rate of a CD-ROM (even the single-speed stuff) is a
 > LOT faster than Double Density floppies, and a little faster than
 > High Density floppies.

What's your point?

I simply told him I don't agree with his opinion that overall, floppy disks are
a faster media than CDROM.   EXCEPT in a few limited cases, such as a very
small file.

Such an example that would run faster with a floppy isn't real world
anyways.

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 14251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  4:33p
Subj: Custom CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We can transfer your data from tape, floppy or your hard disk to Industry
Standard ISO 9660 CDROM.

Formats supported:  4MM DAT, QIC40/80, DC6XXX tape.

Price for a single disk from tape is $100.   Floppy is more.

For more information, please contact Loyd Craft, at Digital Enterprises.

 Fidonet: 1:239/900.0 Fidonet
Internet: [e-mail]
    RIME: ->5292, Loyd Craft
   Voice: 517-865-6850

Make US your source for "one off" CDROM!

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 14252
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  6:31a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 February 1994        Saylor Enterprises   [phone]
 **************************************************************************

 9000 Sounds...................21.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........22.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..24.00    MVP Game Jamboree.............12.00
 America's Premier Shareware...14.00    Night Owl 10.0................30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......23.00    Night Owl Games...............18.00
 Color Magic PC/MAC............24.00    Night Owl Grpahics............23.00
 Dictionaries and Languages....15.00    Pier 3........................25.00
 DR.Games......................15.00    Publishers Paradise Pro.......32.00
 DR.Music......................15.00    Shareware '93.................21.00
 DR.Windows....................15.00    Shareware Explorer 4 Disk.....38.00
 Games 1993....................22.00    Shareware Studio #3...........15.00
 Hackers Chronicles............27.00    So Much Shareware #3..........23.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Software Vault Gold...........18.50
 Home and Office Legal Guide...15.00    Tech. Arsenel.................20.00
 House of Games................16.50    Windows 1993..................21.00
 Lan Master....................21.00    Windowware....................15.00
 Monster Media '93.............23.50    Window Master.................20.00
** All disk do not include shipping.
===========================================================================
                      Special:
 Rebel Assult Delivered to your Door...........$50.00
 Shareware Overload Trio...(3 Disk Set)........$20.00
===========================================================================


       You can FREQ the Newest CD Files list from 1:231/570 by FREQing
                 CD-ROM.TXT or our Adult list is AD.TXT

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From: CHARLES HORSEY                         Number: 14253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  5:51p
Subj: BSR 6800MX                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anyone gotten the mpc upgrade kit for this drive.
It is supposed increase search speed by up to 50% AND 21%
BETTER ACCESS TIME. I would like to know before I give them
my 29.90 which they are asking.
Charles Horsey
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From: BILL SINGLETON                         Number: 14254
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  6:12p
Subj: TOSHIBA CD NOT FULLY READING            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A friend of mine has a problem opening any CD ROM Disc into
Corel Draw 4.0.  It does not have the problem viewing that
same file or opening any CD ROM Discs into Corel 4 thru his
network.  I have copied via DOS some of the clipart files
from a subdirectory on the Corel CD ROM to his hard drive and
DOS said they copied fine.  Those could not be opened into
Corel 4 either.  He has tried to clean the CD ROM disc since
the problem started with a cleaning CD ROM.

Does this sound like an alignment of the CD drive might be needed
(if such is available) and what would such cost and who could do it?
His system worked a month ago able to load just about anything
and no new hardware or software has been added since nor
immediately prior to this problem.

His system is a 486-Dx66 with 32meg and a 1 gig SCSI drive with
a 2yr old Toshiba CD ROM drive.  Does anyone have any suggestions
on what may be wrong and/or what and how to test something next?
Any help would be appreciated.

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From: JASON SUTTLE                           Number: 14255
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  5:33a
Subj: The 11th Hour                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know if Trilobyte/Virgin Games has released "The 11th Hour" yet?
Just curious.  Am wanting to test out my new 2x drive.

Jason

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From: BOB SHUSTER                            Number: 14256
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  5:42p
Subj: Composer quest cd-rom for               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Composer Quest CD-ROM for sale                              N
          Only one IBM CD left:

Dr. T's Composer Quest for MPC - version 1.1

  Explore the works of great composers from 1600 to the
20th century.  Makes music "come alive" with interesting
biographies, facts, and crisp CD quality recordings of
actual great music performances.  The "learn" mode allows
one to freely investigate any musical period or style of
music, the "play" mode offers a fun and challenging adventure
game, sort of like Carmen Sandiego for music                - $25

Shipping included.  If interested, leave me a
message at 215-927-4928.           Thanx! - Bob Shuster

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From: BOB SHUSTER                            Number: 14257
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  5:43p
Subj: Macintosh cd-rom titles f               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Macintosh CD-ROM titles for sale                            N
Still some Macintosh CD-ROM titles left:


Grolier's New Electronic Encylopedia version 3.0.2 (1991)         - $35

Beethoven Symphony No. 9 - Voyager CD  Companion
  - explore Beethoven's life and work with a full
    CD-Audio track of the work featuring Joan Sutherland,
    Marilyn Horne, the Vienna Philharmonic and others.            - $25

Time Table of History - Science & Innovation - Software Toolworks - $25

Desert Storm - The War in the Persian Gulf - Time Magazine        - $20


Shipping included in these prices, if interested, leave me a
message at 215-927-4928.           Thanx! - Bob Shuster

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From: BOB SHUSTER                            Number: 14258
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  5:44p
Subj: Adult cd-rom titles for s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Adult CD-ROM titles for sale                                N
Adult CD-ROMs left for sale:

  Please don't call about these titles - leave me Email and I'll get
back to you.  Please be discreet.  For sale to adults over 21 only.
Proof of age required.


Erotic Encounters - Adult GIF Disk - 700+ Meg - 4200+ GIFs       - $25

Moving Fantasies - adult animation - 49 FLIs, 145 GLs, viewers   - $25

Things Change - My First Time - the 1st full length adult film
on CD-ROM! 80 minute feature film on two CD-ROMs!                - $40


Shipping included in these prices, if interested, leave me Email
and I'll get back to you.  I can also be reached on America Online
(BobS1000) or through the internet (via AOL)      Thanx! - Bob Shuster

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From: JIM FAHNESTOCK                         Number: 14259
  To: JOE SITKO                                Date: 02/14/94  7:05a
Subj: Mitsumi 2x &SB Pro                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS>Can anyone out there help me out?

JS>I used to have a regular soundblaster and a Mitsumi single speed drive
JS>and I remember I had to repin the audio cable, must I do this also to
JS>the new drive and soundcard?

Yup.  Ground and sound reversed.

Jim F

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 14260
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/13/94  5:25p
Subj: Mitsumi From $139                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Mitsumi LU-005s CDrom drive - $139.00
    fast single speed drive with 350ms access time & 175k xfer rate.
    has 32k built-in buffer & will read multisession kodak photocds

       Mitsumi FX-001d Cdrom drive - $219.00
    lightning fast double speed drive w/250ms access & 350k xfer rate.
    comes with 64k built-in buffer & reads all kodak photo cds

     SHIPPING ON CDROM DRIVES:  $7.00          COD add $4.50
   SO MUCH SHAREWARE/2 Disk only $12 with purchase of above drive.

     SPYR, Inc  PO Box 89  Erie PA 16512   Int'l Orders Accepted
      Phone [phone] or fax in your order at [phone]

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From: PAUL CLANCY                            Number: 14261
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/15/94 10:36a
Subj: Chinon Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


BO>BO>>> Panasonic 562 Int (Double Speed 320ms/300KB Transfer Rate).\
BO>BO>>> Sound Blaster Pro Deluxe .................................. }  $279.00
BO>BO>>> 6 CD's ..................................................../ Plus
BO>Shipping

Hello Boris
Couple of questions. Do you sell the chinon double spin SCSI ? If so how
much are the bare drive internal and external models? Also do you ship
to Canada? If so how much for Fed Ex overnight Approx.? Also I would
need a 3 headed SCSI cable-if I get the internal- or a D shell if I go
external. How much for those? I guess that's more than a couple of
questions. Ah well,wordy me<G>. Thanks for any help.

                                                        Cheers, Paul.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14262
  To: ANDREW BOLMARCICH                        Date: 02/14/94  9:39p
Subj: Mac Cd-Roms                             Refer: NONE
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AB:>Thanks for the info.  Do you guys have a catalogue?

Sure do.  It's updated about twice a week, and you can either freq it from
1:3407/101, or d/l it from our bbs @ 509-457-0206.  Filename is STARCAT.ZIP

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14263
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 02/14/94  9:39p
Subj: Top Drawer Stats                        Refer: NONE
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JVH:>I must be missing something here, which of the 1/2 dozen or so Top Drawer
JVH:>delaers will do COD?  I don't mind paying cod cash, postal money order or
JVH:>whatever, just haven't got any response from any of the Top Drawer
JVH:>distributors.

We ship COD for $6 additional, and I believe most of the dealers in this
echo will ship COD for about the same fee or slightly less.  Our usual
method is UPS cash only, but some will ship via the US Postal Service which
has no cash-only contingency.  You might try Doug Carpenter or Jim Lambert
for Top Drawer.  We don't stock it, but we do sell Software Vault Platinum
at $19.90, which is just as nice in my opinion.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14264
  To: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                         Date: 02/14/94  9:39p
Subj: Programming CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR:> WR> I'm looking at purchasing a couple CD's that have Quick Basic,
DR:> WR> Profressional Basic, and Visual Basic source files....any suggestions?

DR:>The CD SourceBox from Damar Enterprises is what I have.  Admittedly, it's a
DR:>"pre-release one-off" but Damar should be releasing it soon... last time I
DR:>spoke with Dave Perkovich they were planning to release on or about
2-22-94.

DR:>Lots of QuickBASIC, VisualBASIC, etc. BASIC, as well as Pascal, C and
Assemb

William,

We are now taking pre-orders on the CD Dave mentioned here.  Price is $29
if you're interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14265
  To: TIM BURCHAM                              Date: 02/14/94  9:39p
Subj: PRE-ORDER PIER 4!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB:>MS > PIER 4 * What WILL be the hottest new shareware CD of
TB:>MS >1994..........$29.00

TB:>MS > STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
TB:>MS >ORDERS: 509-457-2892
TB:>MS > FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 *
TB:>MS >VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

TB:>Do you accept COD's?  Also, how much of Pier 3 will be on Pier 4?

We do indeed Tim.  Give us a call and we can set you up with a great
package price.  We will be the first dealer to have Pier 4 in stock.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14266
  To: GUIDO PIRAINO                            Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GP:>  MS>Night Owl 11 is the current version, and we sell them at
GP:>  MS>$29.90.
GP:>        Is that American currency? If so what will it cost total for you to
GP:>send it here to me in Sault Ste. Marie , Ontario??

Yes, U.S. funds.  Shipping via insured airmail would be $6 to Canada.
Let me know and we can ship to you same day!

Aloha,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14267
  To: CRAIG MYERS                              Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: Good Dealers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM:>        Mike-
CM:>        Thanks for the reply.  If I ever order software thru mail order
agai
CM:>sure to use you, as more than one person has written me recommending you.
CM:>        Keep up the good work.

Great, looking forward to hearing from you Craig!

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14268
  To: JOEL RANKIN                              Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: BATTLECHESS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Where can I find Battlechess for $29.00?

Joel,

We have them in stock at $23.40 if you're interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14269
  To: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                         Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: BBS Utils CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO:>>>    I had heard that someone, sometime ago, made a CD that
BO:>>>    contained almost every Door Game, BBS utility, etc that a
BO:>>>    sysop could ever want....is anyone still making such an item?
BO:>>>    Does any one have one of these?

BO:>The CD is called " So-Much-Modem-Madness" and yes it does contain
BO:>almost anything you may want in the way of BBS support files.
BO:>We have it in stock and it's priced at $25.  If your interested, give

William,

In stock at $17.40.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14270
  To: JOHN ALLISON                             Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: Order for Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JA:>Two weeks ago I ordered the OEM Return to Zork and four days ago I asked
for
JA:>status report and as you did not respond the order is hereby cancelled.  I
w
JA:>so teed off I went and bought it at a local store even though it cost me
JA:>considerably more.  Please delete me from your potential customer list and
i
JA:>by chance it has been mailed it will be returned to sender.

Joe may have been out of stock on those because of a market-wide shortage
recently, but we do have them in stock at $30.90.  Next time you need
anything John, just give me a call!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14271
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |

 SCISSORS & STONES * Interactive adult game in "strip poker" fashion.$49.10
 SIZZLE * New copyrighted .GIF adult CD w/ file listings for BBS use.$29.80
 SO MUCH MODEM MADNESS * Tons of door utils, games, & bbs stuff......$17.40
 SO MUCH SPACE! * A galaxy full of breathtaking scenes from space....$18.90
 SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM * All 93/94 file dates. No dupes to Gold!...$19.90

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

 * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14272
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  9:40p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |

   7. Monster Media 1      8. Night Owl 9         9. Cream of the Crop 2
      Monster Media 2         Night Owl 10.1         Night Owl 11
      Monster Media 3         Night Owl 11           CD Powerbox 2
      ---------------         ------------           -------------
      $69                     $69                    $69

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From: CHRISTOPHER MULDOON                    Number: 14273
  To: NATHAN MOSCHKIN                          Date: 02/13/94 10:13a
Subj: Re: English                             Refer: NONE
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-> Mais, beaucoup de la terre ne sais pas francais.  Anglais, c'est le c
-> langue internationale.  Fidonet existe pour toute la monde bavarder.
-> les persons peut parle en francais, ou aussi en espanol, ou en portug
-> Alors, ou serions-nous si toute de les persons parlent en leurs langu
-> naturelles?

    C'est vrai que beaucoup de personnes, especialement beaucoup de
BBSois, parlent anglais.  Mais si on ecrit seuleument en anglais, on
perd un peu de l'abilite de s'exprimer.  On perd les petits nuances du
langue francais.  On perd la culture francais dans la nouvelle
communaute mondiale, une culture qui est ancienne et belle.  Les
contributions des francais au monde seront perdu si on est limite de
parler angler.

    Je prefere, bien sur, que tout le monde parle une langue que je peux
bien comprendre, mais on doit nourrir l'utilisation des autres langues
pour assurer que les cultures des siecles nombreuses ne pas etre ruiner.


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From: DAN POLIVY                             Number: 14274
  To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                     Date: 02/08/94  7:44a
Subj: OS2/2.1                                 Refer: NONE
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 RV> Bonjour Giuliano !

 RV> Sunday January 23 1994 15:54, Scott Henderson écrivit à Giuliano
 RV> Maciocci Jr :

GMJ>>> I may soon buy a copy of OS2/2.1 on CD-ROM, but I have a
GMJ>> question to ask:
GMJ>>
GMJ>> My hard drive is compressed with Stacker 3.1 (Excellent!) and I
GMJ>> was wondering if I'd be able to install OS2/2.1 on it without
GMJ>> having to reformat everything. I have a 386/DX-40 with 4MB RAM

SH>> I don't believe Stacker has a version for os/2 which would be required in
SH> order to use it with os/2.

 RV> Actually, there /is/ an OS/2 version of stacker.

Yes, but it only supports FAT drives.  If you want HPFS you can't use stacker.

 RV> Anyway, if you're planning to go OS/2 (which I can only recommand
 RV> ;-)),
 RV> you should get some more RAM (8 Megs will make you feel
 RV> comfortable).

8 here works great!

Dan

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From: KENSHIN SAKURA                         Number: 14275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/14/94  9:59p
Subj: Latest CD-ROM software                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Hi everyone! Can anyone recommend some good, recent CD-ROM software
(preferably games)? I haven't seen that many around, so I was just wondering if
I am missing something I really ought to get. Is/Was Rebel Assault any good?

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From: POE LIM                                Number: 14276
  To: ROB WESTBROOK                            Date: 02/13/94  9:46a
Subj: Panasonic 562B and OS/2                 Refer: NONE
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Hello Rob,

On Feb 08 08:06 in a msg to All, Rob Westbrook of 1:3610/4 wrote:

 RW> I'm looking for a driver for the Panasonic 562 and OS/2. I have
 RW> the 8 bit card for the drive. I've tried SBCD2 and I haven't had
 RW> any luck.

If that's SBCS2.ADD, which date was on the file?


Cheers,
Poe

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From: CHRIS GERRATY                          Number: 14277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/12/94 10:50a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM Driver  for Ultrastor controler  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Does anyone  have or knw  where  I can get the ASPI  drivers to  run
my Toshiba  3401 B CDROM drive on my  Ultrastor 34f  scsi controller?

     Or  does anyone  know  how  to install MSCDEX under the ASPI
standard  scsi  layer....?


   If  not.... the  controller  is forsale  !

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 14278
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/12/94 10:45a
Subj: Mpc Title Sale                          Refer: NONE
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G'day John Foster, In a message on <Feb 07>, you said :

DT>>our specials to the BBS community whilst stocks last, so
DT>>please mention this ad! (The prices are in $AUD.)

DT>>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60
DT>>   - full length movie + much more!

 JF> Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so
 JF> "special" considering CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this
 JF> same CD for $29.95 in both PC and MAC versions. What gives?

cant you READ . Daniel specifically said the prices were in $AUD.
If you dont know what that is
           I  W i l l  e x p l a i n.  I t  m e a n s
               A u s t r a l i a n   D o l l a r s.


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 14279
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/12/94 10:55a
Subj: Importing CD's to Oz                    Refer: NONE
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G'day Peter Bryce, In a message on <Feb 10>, you said :

 PB> This message is directed to Australian CD users.

 PB> Can anybody tell me what the current situation is with
 PB> importing CD's from overseas into Australia for private
 PB> use. I'm talking here about 1 copy each of a title, not
 PB> commercial multiple titles. Or possibly 2 copies if a
 PB> friend also wanted one at the same time.

 PB> * What is the amount of import duty due?

Usually non is payable.

 PB> * What if I >shyly hides under table< wanted to import an
 PB> adult rated title? (I am well over 21)

No problems that I am aware of.

 PB> * What is the preferred method of payment used for
 PB> transactions with companies  overseas. (also through this
 PB> echo)

You could use credit card or a bank draft

 PB> * Are there any CD restricted material that the Customs
 PB> won't allow in. (such  as "Build Your Own Atomic Bomb"
 PB> etc.) * Has anyone been hassled by the Customs over CD
 PB> imports?
There may be however I am not aware of them. I  have had no problems with
them. I  have had parcels opened for inspection  but no hassles with them.


                                        Laurie

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From: CRAIG HUXLEY                           Number: 14280
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/08/94 11:45a
Subj: Rebel Assault codes                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Peter!

Wednesday February 02 1994 21:14, Peter Bryce wrote to All:

 PB> Some time back I read a message that listed the passcodes to Rebel
 PB> Assault. At that time I didn't have the CD but I knew I would get one so I
 PB> hastily scribbled down the codes. Unfortunately, it seems as if the last
 PB> code I copied is wrong. Can anybody help me out? Here's the codes I have
 PB> and >do< work: * First non-training mission = FALCON * Mission after
 PB> asteroids = ANOAT * Mission after destroying Walkers = YUZZEM * and the
 PB> final level = BRIGIA the next code does >not< work ! ** and the ending
 PB> sequence = GREDDY I've tried many permutations of GREDDY to no avail
 PB> thinking it was a typo. Other Rebel Assault owners may use the other 4
 PB> codes to show off the CD to visitors like I do. :-) .....seeyalater. -+- +
 PB> Origin: ICOA > 20,000+Files CDROM's 10 Lines [phone] (3:690/347)

Here is a previous message I copied :


─ CDROM (3:640/208.6@fidonet) ────────────────────────────────────────── CDROM─
 Msg  : 655 of 1881 - 484 + 1007            Rcv
 From : Steve Finkelstein                   1:110/740       Thu 20 Jan 94 06:26

 To   : All                                                 Sun 30 Jan 94 23:40

 Subj : Rebel Assault Codes
───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
─
In case anyone doesn't know all the codes for Rebel Assault,
here they are....
     Goto Chapter 4 (easy to hard): FALCON/BIGGS/ACKBAR
     Goto Chapter 7 (easy to hard): ANOAT/KAIBURR/FORNAX
     Goto Chapter 15 (easy to hard): BRIGIA/DAGOBAH/KESSEL
     Goto Ending (easy to hard): GREEDO/MIMBAN/ORGANA

...And, to really cheat in Assault....

At the title screen with the death star in the back, press...
     UP + fire
     DOWN + fire
     LEFT + fire
     RIGHT + fire
... if it worked, you'll hear a bell and a voice saying "Lucas
Arts." Cheat keys:

     + decrease damage
     - increese damage
     1-0 warp to levels 1 - 10
     a,s,d,f warp to levels 11,12,13,14 (I'm not sure about the
warp keys, so don't quote me!)
     ESC- Skip Current level...

Have fun.... Sorry to bother ya if you already knew....

Steve'n :-)
__________________________________________________________________________

Hope this helps Peter.


Craig

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From: ROBERT STEPHENS                        Number: 14281
  To: STEVE SHARP                              Date: 02/11/94 12:18p
Subj: CR-522-B                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

Saturday February 05 1994 10:20, Steve Sharp wrote to ALL:

 SS> Can anybody put me intouch with an OS/2 driver to suit the Panasonic
 SS> CR-522 drive and Sound Blaster Pro card?

Sure its a 522 ?, I have drivers here for 521, 523, 531 and 563 but no 522, is
it a SCSI drive ? if so you can't use it on a SB Pro card.

If you are interested in these drivers Freq magic name SBPANCD from 3:622/421.

    -Robert

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From: ZAPHOD BEEDLEBROX                      Number: 14282
  To: GRANT DEASON                             Date: 02/10/94 11:26p
Subj: CD-ROM and QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Fair enough if it works for you cool,but I have found that whilst QEMM are
always 2 steps ahead of DOS I don't think they are user friendly as there are
just too many switches,options to make it all click together.I have purchased
Versions 6 & 7 and upgraded them and am back to DOS 6.2 as QEMM 7.2 has
problems moving the Doublespace driver(or their equivalent) to upper
memory.This is detailed on their BBS and they have not released the patch yet
due to compatibility problems.Don't get me wrong QEMM is an excellent program
and memmaker is a poor copy of it but COMPATIBILITY is a bitch.Anyways good
luck with it and catch ya !!!
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From: BERT PATTERSON                         Number: 14283
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/11/94 12:27p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Scott Raley <=-

 > > SEND TO: P.O.Box 239, BEACONSFIELD, VICTORIA, 3807.

 > >   ! Origin:  (3:633/253)

 >$48 for Night Owl 11!!??

 BF> $48 AUSTRALIAN.

 BF> That "Victoria" was indicitive of SOMEWHERE in the Commonwealth, and
 BF> coupled with the Zone 3 address is obvious....

Right on Brice, you are very quick and alert.

Yes Victoria is a state of Australia, where the kangaroos jump down the main
street and mechanics still fix horse and carts.

No, No, only kidding, but I bet a lot of Americans still don't know where
Australia is ,or anything about it.

Cheers,
Bert

... A kangaroo makes a good sparring partner
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From: BERT PATTERSON                         Number: 14284
  To: JONATHAN CHAU                            Date: 02/11/94 12:38p
Subj: Re: NightOwl under OS/2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jonathan Chau to All <=-

 JC> Is there a problem with NightOwl under OS/2?  Running it is fine, but
 JC> I can't seem to copy files to ANY drive.  Under DOS, it works just
 JC> fine tho.

 JC> Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
 JC> Internet - [e-mail]
 JC> CompuServe - 72712,2232

I am glad someone else is having trouble reading CD-ROM disks.

First I couldn't read HOBBES OS/2 rom from my Mitsumi CD rom drive.
The distributor changed over the drive and sometimes it reads the disk, same
problem in DOS or OS/2.

I bought a Sounder Blaster Pro and CR-523-B CD-ROM drive and the Hobbes disk
works OK but now I notice that Window Master which is a CD with all windows
programs on it, works OK in DOS but in OS/2 only reads the files in the root
directory.

Cheers,
Bert

... A feature of a CD-ROM is a bug
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From: EUGENE CHAN                            Number: 14285
  To: JIGER DESAI                              Date: 02/13/94  2:19p
Subj: IRON HELIX                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jiger...

Thanks heaps for the thorough review on Helix! It is just a tad expensive but
if people don't buy any types of games at all, we won't get to see anyone
making new games in the future. Your description on the game has convinced me
to buy it. Out here in Oz land, the price is about $A130, which is probably the
most expensive game out to date! See ya.

Eugene

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From: EUGENE CHAN                            Number: 14286
  To: SEAN BEGGS                               Date: 02/13/94  2:20p
Subj: Iron Helix                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Sean...

Thanks on your opinion on Iron Helix....

Eugene.

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From: EUGENE CHAN                            Number: 14287
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/13/94  2:23p
Subj: Iron Helix                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Gadday Mike!

Thanks for your opinion on Helix. Someone else has recommended to me also. I'm
going to purchase the game very soon. Once again, Thanks.

Eugene.

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From: JOSH ADLER                             Number: 14288
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/11/94  5:14p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO > Our US Mailing Address is: Consumer's Club International ( will soon
BO > change )

How much in $US for Nightowl 11 including postage to Australia? Please include
your new address if you know it.

Josh Adler

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From: MURRAY ROBERTS                         Number: 14289
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/13/94  7:00p
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ML>RP> SM>We have reopened after a January vacation and have more
ML>RP> >catalogues to send to catalogue hungry cd-rom users.  If >you would
ML>RP> like a free copy (or missed out on one during our >absense) drop us
ML>RP> a line, send a message or call.  Don't >forget an address (<grin> it
ML>RP> happens).

ML>Please send catalogue to.

Murray Roberts
P O Box 2004
Logan City DC
Queensland
Australia 4114

Thanks

ML>--- SuperQWK 1.18 Beta-1 (Reg)
ML> * Origin: The Prime Directive, ZyXEL 19.2, Node *1 [phone] (1:247/301
___
 X SLMR 2.1 X Ivo Andric - Yugoslavia's First Nobel Laureate

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From: CHRISTOPHER BARHAM                     Number: 14290
  To: RALPH DAVEY                              Date: 02/08/94  8:35p
Subj: FNEWSB05.LZH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Answering a msg posted in area POINT_86 (POINT_86).

Hello Ralph!

Answering a msg of <08 Feb 94>, from Ralph Davey to All:


Thanks for the file!

BFN

Christopher

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From: PAUL SMITH                             Number: 14291
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/08/94 12:20p
Subj: Mitsumi DMA transfer ....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me how to setup a Mitsumi CD ROM drive (old type) for DMA
transfer?

Regards,

Paul

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From: ROGER DONOGHUE                         Number: 14292
  To: PAUL SMITH                               Date: 02/09/94  1:12p
Subj: Doom etc                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hi,

Firstly, I forgot to tell you, what a great front - end your bbs has.
secondly, Your DOOM in the lucky dip section..has it got all the levels
or just the first one. I have first level and I agree, it's the best
overall game I have ever played..what atmosphere!

cheers


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From: RICHARD JONES                          Number: 14293
  To: MARCEL EVANS                             Date: 02/09/94 12:50p
Subj: controlling cd-roms                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Richard,
->
->  RJ>I`m writing a program in visual basic to control a cd drive
->  RJ>to play audio cds. Does anyone know how to access it.
->
-> It's easy to do with MCI Commands... I've got a very comprehensive Wi
->  help file which outlines all of the MCI comands and their syntax and
-> Feel
->  free to d\load it.
->
-> See ya
->
-> ---
->  * Origin: The PC SoundTrak: (UK)[phone] (2:2504/100.2)

great!. is that your bbs number ??? 0743 360287. if so, whats the file
called???

be seeing ya

richard

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From: BRYAN ANSLOW                           Number: 14294
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:25a
Subj: Cover CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All,

 RA> With Europress' PcHome already giving away cover CDs, it looks like
 RA> my CD-Rom collection might grow abit !

And all of them in those flimsy plastic envelopes no doubt!

Does anyone know where the plastic CD cases can be obtained from at a
non-ripoff price.

Having seen the price Tandy were asking the other day it would be
cheaper to buy the discounted CD's from W.H.Smiths, throw the CD away
and keep the case!

Cheers,

Bryan.

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From: ADAM KNOWLES                           Number: 14295
  To: MARK WARD                                Date: 02/10/94 10:04p
Subj: Re: Sony CDU-31A-02...silica are ok!    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdly Doodly Doo, would you like some toast Mark!?

U know, on the 08 Feb 94 at 20:14, Mark Ward type-ED to Adam Knowles:

 MW> Hi Adam,

 Hhhiiiiii Buddy!

 AK>> BUT, if it's for a bbs, the dual speed won't make ya bbs ANY
 AK>> faster at all.
 AK>> A 28.8k modem slows down a SINGLE-speed cd-rom!

 MW> Many BBS's (RA BBS's especially) transfer the data from the CD to Hard
 MW> Disk before tranfer begins,

 I've noticed that...

 MW>  this is so that multi-line BBS's with
 MW> multi-stacking CD-Rom drives don't have problems.  I assume that the
 MW> faster transfer rate of a multi-speed CD-Rom drive will actually be
 MW> beneficial because of this.

 No, well, not by much!  To transfer a file from a cd-rom doesn't take that
long, no matter what speed it is.  If you're transferring a 1mb file from a
single speed cd-rom, it may be 10-20 seconds slower than a dual-speed
cd-rom...and not many bbs users are too bothered about 15 seconds more!
  For the extra you pay for a double-speed cd-rom, it's simply not worth it for
a bbs. Unless, of course, ya gonna play games aswell...but that'd muck your bbs
up, coz if someone wanted a file from the cd-rom, it wouldn't be there...and
otherwise, you'd have to turn the bbs off...

 MW>  + Origin: Wacky Carrot BBS - West Malling, Kent [phone]

 ...fascinating!

The one and only, super-sarcastic, mega-moronic, TOASTER! Otherwise known as:
 ___
 )--)DaM...

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From: ADAM KNOWLES                           Number: 14296
  To: JEFF PATTEN                              Date: 02/10/94 10:09p
Subj: Re: Transfer rates.                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdly Doodly Doo, would you like some toast Jeff!?

U know, on the 04 Feb 94 at 21:21, Jeff Patten type-ED to Robert King:

 RK>> MPC standard.  I am running a 486DX2 with 8Megs of ram, NEC
 RK>> triple spin with PAS Studio sound card.   I think that the

 JP>     The MPC standards include specs on cpu usage.  The NEC 3x kits come
 JP> with a 16 bit SCSI card, while the PAS is only 8 bit.

 You seem to know about these nec's and s\cardz..so...Is a NEC multi-spin
cd-rom...a TRIPLE speed, or just double (but faster than most double-speed
cd-drives)  And would an NEC multi=spin cd-drive work to full capacity with a
PAS-16?

The one and only, super-sarcastic, mega-moronic, TOASTER! Otherwise known as:
 ___
 )--)DaM...

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From: ADAM KNOWLES                           Number: 14297
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/10/94 10:47p
Subj: Re: Creative Labs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdly Doodly Doo, would you like some toast Pedro!?

U know, on the 04 Feb 94 at 19:04, Pedro Vieira type-ED to All:

 PV>         I want to contact thecnical support of Creative Labs via messages.
 PV>         Can anybody give me the Internet or Fidonet adress of somebody
 PV>         there?

 Write a message to Marcel Evans in Midi.Uk, and you should get an answer.
Otherwise, call the official creative-labs BBS (run by Marcel) on:
0734 360 287.

The one and only, super-sarcastic, mega-moronic, TOASTER! Otherwise known as:
 ___
 )--)DaM...

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From: MARK BILLINGE                          Number: 14298
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/09/94  8:23a
Subj: CD Magazines                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All,

Does anyone know of any CD-ROM magazines other than Nautilus?


Also, on the Nautilus front, I occasionally borrow a copy for a
week or so, and I'm quite impressed.  I've not seen their new format yet, which
I guess they've used from October '93 onwards, could someone outline the
changes?

Mark

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 14299
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  7:24p
Subj: C/C++ CDROM, Feb'94                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
1292 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 145,000 record PC products database. Voice:[phone],
Fax:[phone].
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  4:18p
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                     Computer Works CD-Rom Sales
                          Shareware Titles

Big Sky Rom             $26        Shareware Explorer 4 CD's       $46
CICA Microsoft Windows  $14        Shareware Extravaganza 4 CD's   $40
Cream of the Crop II    $29        Shareware Online 2              $24
GameWare Collection     $22        Shareware Overload              $12
Giga Games              $18        Shareware Studio 2              $16
Hacker Chronicles       $28        So Much Modem Madness           $29
Hamware 1993            $27        So Much Shareware 3             $24
Hobbes OS/2 - Oct 1993  $14        Software Vault Gold             $25
Night Owl 11            $30        Software Vault Games            $24
OS/2 Box                $26        Software Vault Windows          $24
Pier 2                  $25        Tech Arsenal                    $24
Pier 3                  $30        Top Drawer  (New!)              $19

Mastercard & Visa accepted.  Orders may be placed online our BBS 24
hours per day or called in on our voice line.  File lists for most
popular discs are available for download.

Computer Works          BBS    [phone]
CD-Rom Sales            Voice  [phone]
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From: CHRIS MOORE                            Number: 14301
  To: GARY HILBERT                             Date: 02/14/94  9:01a
Subj: CHEMICAL ENG CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Gary

 > Hi Chris.   Please send me information on the Canadian Centre for
 > Occupational Health & Safety.  Can you give me an internet address,
 > assuming anonymous FTP is allowed. If they dont have internet, can
 > you pass the files to me via Compuserve Mail  71451,1637 .  If none of
 > these work my USnail address is

I'm afraid it'll have to be snail mail for the time being. We're getting
connected to the Internet, but the databases and BBS won't be available that
way until May.

Anyway, the snail mail package is on its way.

Chris

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14302
  To: JOSEPH TELLER                            Date: 02/16/94  4:13p
Subj: Night Owl #11 & Disney???               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Could someone PLEASE explain what this is all about? I have
-> heard nothing in the way of an explanation. I have NO #11 -
-> which files are involved?

There were apparently some Disneypicutre files on their first batch of
discs they made and they remade them without them.  Disney has started
sueing people who produce these shareware cds with their pictures and
sound files on them and is now even going after the distributors for
copyrights violations.  I would imagine they'll probably start looking
at BBS's an dealers eventually as well who are using these CDROMs.  It
is going to get so the only shareware cdrom safe to sell or keep on your
BBS will have to have no sound or gif files on it.
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From: JASON DADSWELL                         Number: 14303
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 12:14p
Subj: Video 4 windows 1.1 in 2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


I recently installed video for windows v. 1.1 under win-os/2.  After
that my Groliers MPC Encyclopedia v. 6 wouldn't run seamlessly.  Since
then I have reinstalled Win-OS/2, Grolier's Enc. and Video 4 Windows
that comes with Groliers.  Nothing has worked, and this is the error I
get.

MMTASK caused is not allowed to
run in a WIN-OS/2 Window. in
module <unknown>0000:0000???
MMTASK will close.
  [OK]

The error is an os/2 error and where the ??? is, is a variety of
symbols that change with every attempt at reopening.

Thanks in advance.

PS. I don't have a sound card and have configured Grolier's that way.

___
 X KWQ/2 1.2b X Being a Gen. X'er is kinda like running Windows.

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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 14304
  To: GEOFF NEAL                               Date: 02/15/94 10:51p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Geoff!

13 Feb 94 20:16, Geoff Neal wrote to Alex Colquitt:

 GN> Hurry the waters are rising...

 GN> I actually got Encarta for $199, I was quoted up to $249 from various
 GN> sources.

 GN> Got any bargains ???

I'm not sure what the exchange is from Canadian $ to Australia $, but I was at
a local store here in Regina, Sask. Canada and noted Encarta (1994) for $119
Can.  Is that compare to your price?

Yves

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From: CARL BENSON                            Number: 14305
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 02/15/94  3:36p
Subj: 7TH Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > * in a message to All <07 Feb 94 23:51> Mike Lee
 > wrote:

 >  ML> I've finished 7th Guest, but just out of curiosity, what exactly is
 > that
 >  ML> 'doorway' for in the library?

 >     Nothing. Just decoration, like the picture at the
 > top of the stairs.
If you haven't noticed there is an animation if you press the teeth on the
picture..it's quite impressive too..

// Calle

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From: CARL BENSON                            Number: 14306
  To: JOE SITKO                                Date: 02/15/94  3:45p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x &SB Pro                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Can anyone out there help me out?
Maybe..


 > I have a Soundblaster Pro along with the Mitsumi
 > double speed CD Rom
 > drive.  Everything works well when I'm playing
 > computer CD games, but I
 > can't play audio CD's through it.  Everything seems to
 > be working....but
 > no sound.
Well, try my solution..hook a cable between the CD-ROM phones output jack and
into the SoundBlaster Pro Line in..that works for me. Didn't you get a
controller card with your Mitsumi?

If you did I strongly recommend to use the line outputs from the controller.
Much better sound quality. There is to much crossover disortion in a phone
amplifier..

// Calle

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From: DIANE PENCIL                           Number: 14307
  To: RON BRUMLOW                              Date: 02/17/94  1:59a
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > CompUSA's "sales" price leaves a lot to be desired then since that has
 > been MicroSoft's full retail on the '94 update has been $99 US as an
 > interductory offer.

Microsoft's offer was supposed to be good through the end of the year then
revert back to the original 295.00

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14308
  To: JOSEPH TELLER                            Date: 02/15/94 11:59a
Subj: LOOK FOR SUBMISSIONS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>done not in the commerical format (which  decays in 8-10 years)
>but in the high quality format (that survives 80-100 years) CD.

 I presume "the commercial format" refers to standard aluminum CD's - which do
NOT decay in 8-10 years, based on the limited life testing I've personally done
(my oldest CD is currently 10 years old and working fine).

 So far, the available data indicates that "the commercial format" CDs are
highly likely to exceed 20 years lifetime, unless they are TOTALLY botched up
during manufacture.

 The gold "high quality format" discs ARE likely to outlast the aluminum
ones....


 * SLMR 2.1a * File not found, should I load something else for you?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14309
  To: JIM STEEN                                Date: 02/15/94 12:05p
Subj: CD-ROM UPGRADING TIPS AN                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Is it following an approximately valid summary of current low discounted
CD-Rom
>drive prices?   (in US dollars)

>           TYPE    PRICE    MAJOR BRANDS
>         1x  ISA    $170   Panas, Mits, Sony
>         2x  ISA    $220     "     "     "

 Drop both of these figures $10-$20 - Mitsumi double-speeds in particular can
definitely be found for $199 with a little shopping, and I've heard rumours of
$180 at Egghead for one of the double-speeds by somebody.

>         4x SCSI    $800   Pioneer

 More like $1100. The 2X Pioneer 6-pack is somewhere near $800.

>SCSI costs an $80 premium at the low end

 NEC 36 or 25J drives are running around the same $100 that you can get Hitachi
3500/3600's for.

>and is the only choice in the 3x & 4x arena.

 For now. That MAY change in the next 6 months.

>ISA drives usually include a control card, but SCSI drives rarely
>(never) do.

 Rarely - the Pioneer 6-packs are commonly available bundled with a Host
Adapter, and a lot of VARs will bundle a host adapter together with a drive.

>With SCSI one must select from SCSI-1, SCSI-2, SCSI fast, wide 32, etc.

 Not in CD-ROM - all CD-ROM SCSI drive are SCSI or SCSI-2.

>Also, 3x & 4x drives are disproportionately more expensive because they
>represent the newest in technology.

 True to a large degree.


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From: JOHN WETJEN                            Number: 14310
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 02/16/94  6:04a
Subj: Re: Chess CD-Rom                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Theres a Chessmaster 4000 Turbo out.  You can play over the modem.  It
should be for Cd soon...

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From: JOHN WETJEN                            Number: 14311
  To: JASON CHANCELLOR                         Date: 02/16/94  6:07a
Subj: CD Recording                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I want a high speed re-writable CD drive.  Do ya know where I can get one??
Soon??

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From: NATHAN MOSCHKIN                        Number: 14312
  To: CHRISTOPHER MULDOON                      Date: 02/16/94  5:14p
Subj: English                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* dimanche février 13 1994, Christopher Muldoon écrit à Nathan Moschkin:

 CM>     Je prefere, bien sur, que tout le monde parle une langue que je peux
 CM> bien comprendre, mais on doit nourrir l'utilisation des autres langues
 CM> pour assurer que les cultures des siecles nombreuses ne pas etre ruiner.

voilà!  Nous allons de la dispute de les langues, à le dangeur de les cultures
très anciennes devenant annihilé!

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From: ANDY O'BRIEN                           Number: 14313
  To: DENIS COLMAN                             Date: 02/16/94  5:11p
Subj: Cataloge!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey! I heard about your cool cataloge, can you send one to:

100 Bicentennial Cir. #274R
Sacramento, CA  95826??

Or maybe 1:203/669?

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 14314
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/17/94  8:39p
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: 14300
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->                           Shareware Titles

Strike 2.  10 LINE MAX ON OCCASIONALLY POSTED ADS.

tim
co-moderator
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From: RICHARD ROSENFELD                      Number: 14315
  To: EUGENE CHAN                              Date: 02/16/94  1:55p
Subj: Iron Helix                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Which game do you recommend out of Helix and Journeyman
EC>Project? Also, is Star Trek Next Generation out there yet?

I can't say that I reccommend Iron Helix.  The graphics and sound are
great but I dont like the interface and since its a Windoz program,
you're locked into whatever video setup you have for windows. i.e. I
have a large monitor and set my video to 1024x768 sooooo Iron Helix
doesnt compensate for that and it appears as a small window in a large
black screen.  It looks much better at 640x480! (256colors)  BTW I tried
to contact Spectrum Holobyte by compuserve, by Internet, and they never
responded regarding the video issue!!!  I think it should be Spectrum
bites a big one!!!
It cost aboout $60 US.   Many of my friends enjoy it much more than me
but their video setup presents less of a problem.

I still love 7th Guest the best and for "shoot em up" cd roms-Rebel
Assault.  Sometimes things that are newer are not always better, even in
the computer world!

[e-mail]

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From: ROGER NELSON                           Number: 14316
  To: RICK SHOAF                               Date: 02/15/94  6:22a
Subj: Re: OS2/2.1                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Do you have their BBS's number?

[phone]

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From: SEBASTIAN HAUBITZ                      Number: 14317
  To: .ALL                                     Date: 02/15/94  7:36p
Subj: Cinemania (Microsoft)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has someone allready got the Cinemania-cd of Microsoft.
Is it usefull, how are the moviesequences, what about the performance...
Please tell me how it looks

                        thanks for ...
                                            Sebi



___sorry for the horrible english (Swiss guy)..

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From: DAVID KOZLOWSKI                        Number: 14318
  To: TONY STOTT                               Date: 02/15/94 12:21a
Subj: Cd-rom And Qemm                         Refer: NONE
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 TS> Could you please name the programs which won't run in 590k? Seriously,
 TS> as
 TS> I don't know of any
 TS>
 Many of the games today are pushing the 600K limit, Doom, Blake Stone
 just to mention a couple, need 600+K to run full options IE digital
 voice and music as well as graphics.....
 Like all things related to computers as time progresses the demands on
 the equi[ment gets larger...
 Any one remember what DOS 3.2 took to run?

DAve...

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From: PHILIP GARRISON                        Number: 14319
  To: ANDREW BARNHARDT                         Date: 02/14/94  9:33p
Subj: CDrom on 386-40                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Rod Spencer, Andrew Barnhardt said:
 > (02-09-94 02:51) Rod Spencer wrote about 'CDrom on 386-40':

 > RS> Is anyone using a CDRom player with a 386-40 machine?  I read several
 > RS> comments about the Reveal CD Rom player being a good machine, and
 > RS> wanted to know if anyone was using one with a 386-40?  I thought I
 > read
 > RS> somewhere that there were some problems with CDRoms and that CPU.

Hey,
    I am running a 386VC/DX-40 with 10-CDRoms and a slaved 286 for my
BBS.....No problems here.
        ((((The Garrison Empire BBS!)))) Erlensee/Germany
        [phone] <2:244/6204>
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $26.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $45.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

600MB's+, 4700+ files,  BRAND NEW RELEASE - 1993 - 1994  November - January.

Thousands of the most recent shareware programs and resources available from
around the world.  Includes a user friendly Software Vault Librarian that will
help you find and use what you need easily and quickly. (Games. Sounds, Sound
Blaster & MIDI, Graphics, MultiMedia, Word Processing, Fonts & Clip Art,
Pictures & GIFs, Spreadsheets, Educational, Database, Ham Radio Utilities, LAN
Utilities, BBS Utilities, and many more.)
                    SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM - $18.00
    ORDERS ONLY!! 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Master Surfer!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 12:46a
Subj: PIONEER 602X                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

))))))))))))))))))))) A L L  N E W  P I O N E E R  6 0 2 X (((((((((((((((((((
                        Double Speed  -  6 - Disk Changer

  300 ms Average Access Time  -  307 Kbs Data Transfer Rate - 256 KB Buffer
  Multi-Session Support       -  2048/512 Byte Selectable   - SCSI-2
  Complete with Manuals, Audio Cable, Power Cord, Magazine and Software.

   IN STOCK                   PRICE - $845.00                IN STOCK
        MULTIPUL UNIT PURCHASE DISCOUNT - SAME PRICE CASH OR CHARGE
     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: HOLGER WEHRS                           Number: 14323
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/11/94  6:31a
Subj: Re: !free Cd Catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo Joe!


08 Jan 94 19:05, Pete Beens schrieb an Joe Rinehart:

 PB> On 01-02-94, Joe Rinehart said to All!

 JR>> ********* FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!**********
 JR>> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR>> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Can you send me one to the Netherlands or can I download it somewhere?

Holger

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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 14324
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 02/15/94  5:33p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assult                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dear Kevin,

-> 07 Feb 94  15:20:00, Kevin Plummer whispered to Franky Wong...
-> KP>    Rebel Assult Delivered to your Door in withing Three Days.
-> KP>                   $ 50.00
-> KP>         Call: [phone]  ask for Hershel
-> Yes, It will work with Sound Blaster... and the Pro.
->   Shipping is included., and Sorry don't take AE...

1.  To whom should I write my check should I want to buy?

2.  Assuming shipping and ALL other misc charges included, can you beat
    the following prices:

        7th Guest                           30 <- reference price for
        Jones in the Fast Lane              17    used CD (retail)
        Kings Quest V                       17
        King's Quest VI                     26
        King's Quest VI (Upgrade)           30
        Loom                                17
        Mantis Experimental Fighter         16
        Microsoft Bookshelf '93             38
        Microsoft Bookshelf '94             38
        National Geographic Mammals         23
        Rebel Assault                       32
        Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe     19
        Space Quest IV                      16
        Where World Carmen Deluxe           23
        Wrath of the Demon                  17


Thanks.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 14325
  To: RICK SHOAF                               Date: 02/15/94  7:50p
Subj: OS2/2.1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Rick!

Monday February 14 1994 09:38, Rick Shoaf wrote to Lon Lentz:

 LL>> Not true. IBM has CD driver replacements for a lot of the current
 LL>> drives. Call them to get the file name for your drive, then d'l it from
 LL>> their BBS.

 RS> Do you have their BBS's number?

Pardon me for butting in, here, but:

    IBM PCC BBS:  [phone]


Later,

Dave

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From: TRANE FRANCKS                          Number: 14326
  To: MIKE GREER                               Date: 02/14/94 11:55a
Subj: Mitsumi Single Speed & OS/2 2.1!!       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Greer to All <=-
 -=> About Mitsumi Single Speed & OS/2 2.1!!, on 11 Feb 94  01:25 <=-

 MG> Anyone out there get the above configuration to work ?? if so how did
 MG> you and where can i possibly find the proper drivers !!!

Was a piece o' cake. I have an LU005s installed with OS/2 2.1GA.
All you need to do is grab a copy of the November release of
MITFX.ZIP. It has the install procedure in a text doc along with
the necessary driver.

Took more time to put in the drive itself. Getting it up and
running in OS/2 was no big deal. ;-)

... Don't start vast projects with half-vast ideas.
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From: JOHN MATEOS ONG                        Number: 14327
  To: MATTHEW GUDITES                          Date: 01/30/94  4:21p
Subj: INTERNAL/EXTERNAL???                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > What do you prefer?  Internal or external?  I don't know why,
 > but I
 > have heard that external is better...why?  I have an internal
 > drive and

I have an internal one and its ok too...

jong

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From: JOHN ALLISON                           Number: 14328
  To: MARCUS LEE                               Date: 02/13/94  8:46a
Subj: Gus/Cdrom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GUS, MY name is John Allison but not the same one you replied to. Could
you help me I want to know what meesage # you are responding to. this
other ja had some unhappy mail that came to me. I left a message to the
person running this board to change my name however he hasn't responded.
I think another person purcased something for JA and wasn't happy.
thank you


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From: JOHN ALLISON                           Number: 14329
  To: JOHN ALLISON                             Date: 02/13/94  9:00a
Subj: our names                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dear John Allison Winnipeg, MB. My name is John Allison too Iam from
Wilmington, Delaware.USA. Iam getting you mail and confusion. I asked
the person running this board to add M inbetween my name.However he has
not responded. Took alittle time to find you have been going crazy
readind you mail. At frist I thought it was a joke. GOD luck.


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From: MICHAEL HARBACH                        Number: 14330
  To: VOLKER MEYER                             Date: 02/15/94 12:43p
Subj: Kq6                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

###Is anyone around here playing Kq6 currently? I could use some hints.

Hello!  What do you need?

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From: GARY HILBERT                           Number: 14331
  To: ANDREW SEE                               Date: 02/15/94 10:17p
Subj: Texel 3024                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AS>Boris, have you heard about CD's getting very hot inside the Texel
AS>drive. When  I remove a caddy from the drive, it is physically quite
AS>hot. Any ideas?

My Texel 3024 does NOT exhibit that behavior.  Since it's an internal
drive temperature may be affected (somewhat) by the fan in your case and
the location of the drive in the box.  It shouldn't get REAL hot
however.  Does it happen with all the caddies you have?  I've found some
minor differences in caddies I've bought at different times from
different vendors.  I read in a magazine review that the Texel has a
vigorous eject spring...on the first three caddies they eject so fast I
need a catchers glove to make the save. On the last three I bought they
just barely stick on edge out.  Maybe you have one that is binding a
little, thus generating some extra heat.

Gary A Hilbert  [e-mail]
02/15/94  22:17          [e-mail]

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From: ERIC FRANCIS                           Number: 14332
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 02/14/94  6:39p
Subj: RE: PHONE BOOK CD-ROM                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes, I've found that out. My point was that the product would be better if it
were just one product--offering the "Reverse" search feature. One of the best
uses of such databases is the ability to find out who belongs to a phone
number, particularly if your Caller ID indicates a number that calls you
several times a day and hangs up. I don't want to have to spend close to $200
to get that, so for now I stick with CompuServe's PhoneFile.



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From: DAVID ANDERSON                         Number: 14333
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 02/15/94  1:05p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SB>DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
SB> Ship to USA ONLY. 02/06/94 BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331
SB>European Racers (Boxed)....................................  $31.00
SB>Legend of Kyrandia (OEM)...................................  $23.00
SB>Mad Dog Mcree (Boxed)......................................  $35.00
SB>Return to Zork (OEM).......................................  $27.00
SB>Seventh Guest (2 disc set - OEM)...........................  $35.00
SB>Star Wars Chess (OEM)......................................  $20.00
SB>Tornado (OEM)..............................................  $27.00
SB>World of Xeen (2 disc set - Boxed).........................  $45.00
SB> Call me for a complete price list.  Thanks, Sam
This may be a stupid question, but what does OEM mean?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14334
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94  3:19p
Subj: JUST A FEW CD PRICES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Animals San Diego Zoo (DOS) (OEM) 19  Mosaic Magic (Mac)                49
 Animals San Diego Zoo (MPC) (OEM) 20  Mother of All Clip Art            14
 Animals San Diego Zoo (Mac) (OEM) 23  Motion Picture Guide              89
 Animation Festival (MPC) (OEM)    20  Movie Select                      55
 Animation Magic (Win)             58  Movie Select (Mac)                55
 Annabel's Dream Ancient Egy (Mac) 55  Movies on TV and Video (PC/Mac)   34
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (DOS) 69  Mowgli's Brothers                 36
 Annabel's Dream Medival Eng (Mac) 69  Mozart (MPC) (OEM)                20
 APL Volume I                      19  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook       37
 Apollo 8 Go For TLI               30  Mozart Multimedia Musicbook (Mac) 38


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14335
  To: JERRY THOMSON                            Date: 02/11/94  3:21p
Subj: MITSUMI                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Does anyone know if the Mitsumi drive can run off a scsi card?

 Mitsumi does NOT make a CD-ROM drive with a SCSI interface.


 * SLMR 2.1a * "Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup...."

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14336
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/11/94  3:23p
Subj: MPC TITLE SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>DT>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60

>Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so "special"
considering
>CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this same CD for $29.95 in both PC and MAC
>versions. What gives?

 I seem to recall that Daniel is out-of-CONTINENT - Autralian?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14337
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/11/94  3:24p
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>JP>I'm an end user, and if you can show me a 2.4 gig IDE in the same price
rang
>JP>as a 2.4 gig SCSI

>Joe, could you enlighten those of us that are novices, as to the differences
>between SCSI and IDE interfaces for CD-ROM devices?

 There is no such thing as a CD-ROM drive with an IDE compatable interface.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Written by my evil twin, Bob&Tom....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14338
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 02/11/94  3:42p
Subj: CD DICTIONARY                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Well, for about $895 you can have the unabridged Oxford English Dictionary II
>-- a superb dictionary incidentally.

>Or for considerably less, consider Microsoft Bookshelf which includes a
>dictionary (don't know if unabridged or not,  probably is abridged)

 Happens to be the electronic version of my "primary" dictionary - it's not
NEARLY as complete as the Oxford, but good enough for most daily usage.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14339
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 02/11/94  3:45p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Try convincing the Americans who think the US dollar is the *only* currency
in
>existance.

 Our dollar WAS the first "dollar", as I recall - and is a much better known
currancy than any of the "other" dollars in most or all of the world....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 14340
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 02/11/94  3:49p
Subj: PANASONIC 562/AT BUS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> PB> The Sound Blaster Pro has a proprietary CD-RoM interface and is not
> PB> an IDE interface.

>Actually, the drive IS IDE.

 Not by the standards of IDE as used in computers.

>Thus, the correct way
>to refer to the Panasonic drive interface is to call it "proprietary IDE".

 The CORRECT way to refer to the interface is to call it "propriatary" - the
interface is NOT IDE, no matter how much of the electronics are on the drive(s)
attached to that interface.

>Causes no end to confusion, of course

 EXACTLY!!!!!!


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From: FRED FINDLING                          Number: 14341
  To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                   Date: 02/15/94  5:16a
Subj: Cd Repair                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WS>Anyhoot, these methods might work great with audio CD's, but I haven't
WS>had luck with CD-ROM's

   It does appear to work with audio CD's, I have used such scratch re-
moval techniques on audio CD's with good results, including a few that
were for all intents and purposes unplayable. The CD's often didn't look
that good comestically with swirl marks and dull spots, but played just
fine nonetheless!

........Fred

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From: JEFF PATTEN                            Number: 14342
  To: MATT CRICH                               Date: 02/16/94  9:56a
Subj: CD-ROM Specs.                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 MC> When a magazine ad/review lists the average seek time of a
 MC> CD-ROM, are they referrring to Full Stroke access or are they
 MC> referring to 1/3 stroke access. My dealer assured me the Mitsumi

    "Average" should be a giveaway -- if the spec reflected full stroke
performance, wouldn't it necessarily be "maximum"?  ;-)

Jeff

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From: JOE HOUCHENS                           Number: 14343
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 02/16/94  5:25p
Subj: aviation cd-disks                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> From: Joe Houchens
->   To: Boris Osadciw                          Recvd:
-> Subj: aviation cd-disks                      Conf: Cdrom
-> ___------------------------------------------------------------------
-> JH>  Boris, i have been seeing your ads on selling cd/dsks do you hav
-> JH>on Aviation {only}........and if theres a catolog or listings of t
-> JH>disks you have could you sent one....
->
-> Hi Joe,
->      I bought a CD from Boris called flight 642. It's a nice CD if yo
-> into planes. We have it on our board if you like to take a look at it
-> leave me a note and I will set it up for you.
-> ___
->  +-+-+

the reason I was asking about a aviation cd....a friend of mine has a
board for aviation..."he's a pilot"  the CD has to be flight plan/
utilities/weather programs etc.....some prices would be nice?



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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 14344
  To: JAMES REYLE                              Date: 02/15/94  7:35p
Subj: Vertical roll on screen                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened......
JR Maybe there isn't motion clips on there, but the picture rolls like you
JRwouldn't believe. I would enjoy this disk more if it were working. what
JRkind of cd rom are you using?

 I'm using an NEC 84. I would look more towards your video/driver  than
the Cd-ROM. It sounds like a video problem to me i.e. trying to run too
high a resolution/colors. Take a look at that:)

                             Mike

Mike
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 14345
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 02/17/94  6:47a
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale or TRAD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

James,
    Thank you for sending me the disc, I will send yours ASAP after I
get your disc!

                        Thanks,
    Leave me an address anyway!?!
                        Sam

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From: BILL MARSHALL                          Number: 14346
  To: ALEX MOTTRAM                             Date: 02/16/94  9:26a
Subj: Sony CD-31A                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


AM>I have a CDU-31A and sometimes encounter the same types of errors while
AM>trying to read from the Night Owl's 9 CDROM.  Try increasing the number
AM>of sector buffers on your MSCDEX line with /M:XX  where XX is the number
AM>of buffers you want.

I have had this problem a few times, with a Chinon, sent it back to be
fixed, heads were off a little bit. They said the cause mostly is dust on
the lens.

                    Bill Marshall

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From: JIMMY JOHNSON                          Number: 14347
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/17/94 11:47a
Subj: Re: CREAM OF THE CROP II                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to David Muench <=-

 >Does anyone have a filelist from the above list for freqing?

 BF> Terry Blount SHOULD have one....

Whats the cheapest price on this fine CD ?????




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From: JIMMY JOHNSON                          Number: 14348
  To: EUGENE CHAN                              Date: 02/17/94 12:56p
Subj: Re: CD for Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eugene Chan to Denis Coleman <=-

 EC> I'm interested in purchasing some CD's in the near future. Can you
 EC> please tell me how you do the transactions with your customers? do you
 EC> send COD? If so, are the prices including/excluding COD? Any help
 EC> would be great. BTW, what is Protostar like? I'm also after Star Trek
 EC> Enhanced. Thanks.

 If  Eugene isn't let me know.




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From: JOHN ALLISON                           Number: 14349
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/17/94  9:53a
Subj: Order for Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Thanks Mike and you can now consider yourself my #1 American CD dealer.

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From: JOHN VAN HARE                          Number: 14350
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/17/94  5:56p
Subj: Re: Top Drawer Stats                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS> We ship COD for $6 additional, and I believe most of the dealers in this
MS> echo will ship COD for about the same fee or slightly less.  Our usual
MS> method is UPS cash only, but some will ship via the US Postal Service which
MS> has no cash-only contingency.  You might try Doug Carpenter or Jim Lambert
MS> for Top Drawer.  We don't stock it, but we do sell Software Vault Platinum
MS> at $19.90, which is just as nice in my opinion.
Thanks, Jim Lambert read my message & shipped COD cash, its running on my BBS
now, and I reccomend it highly, I knew they were new files when I saw
scanv111.zip on it!  I really like, the BBS is quite busy again.  Thanx for
the info, and I will pass it on if any of my users want Software Vault.
I really should get into cdrom sales, with all the referrals I make to my
callers.

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From: STEVEN KATZ                            Number: 14351
  To: MIKE GREER                               Date: 02/15/94  7:33p
Subj: Mitsumi Single Speed & O                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MGHello All!

MGAnyone out there get the above configuration to work ?? if so how did
MGyou and
MGwhere can i possibly find the proper drivers !!!

The drivers are available through most commercial services (Compuserve,
Genie) and through OS/2 network of files.  You can also contact Mitsumi.

You can also Freq from my board (1:107/108.1).

Steve


Steve
Tri-Area BBS [phone]
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From: BILL YOHMAN                            Number: 14352
  To: THE LAWMAN                               Date: 02/13/94  9:24p
Subj: SCSI vs. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting The Lawman to Bill Yohman <=-

 BY> -=> Quoting The Lawman to Richard May <=-

 BY> TL> I wouldn't say you are arrogant, just opinionated. SCSI is by far
 BY> TL> cheaper than IDE if you are looking for storage space not to mention
 BY> TL> that you can connect 7 devices on one card. Try that with ide's, no
 BY> TL> can do. Food for thought? Yes?

 BY>Not with the new ATA (AT Attachable) from WD. Expect all major vendors
 BY>to jump on the IDE bandwagon. Gateway 2000 has already said they will
 BY>move to IDE exclusively, especially when the IDE CD-ROMS and tape drives
 BY>start hitting the market.

 TL> The point was and still is, that ide cards now can't
 TL> do what scsi does now and keep cost low. It will be nice though if they
 TL> would mass market that type of device so you can add more hard drives
 TL> when you can when you can afford it, rather than buy one big drive
 TL> eventually and sell off the smaller ones. (or keep em).

I think you'll notice that a lot of the time SCSI does allow multiple
different devices to be added. Especially when you talk about diferent
vendors and such.

Bill

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From: LEW MURRAY                             Number: 14353
  To: RON BRUMLOW                              Date: 02/16/94  7:41a
Subj: Re: Encarta                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RB> >CompUSA has it on sale here locally for $99
RB> >___
RB> > X OLX 2.1 TD X Press "+" to see another tagline.
RB> >
RB> >--- Maximus 2.01wb
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RB>CompUSA's "sales" price leaves a lot to be desired then
RB>since that has been MicroSoft's full retail on the '94
RB>update has been $99 US as an interductory offer.

The price I quoted was not for an UPDATE but for the full package.
Besides which, I didn't say it was a good price.  I seldom buy from
CompUSA because their prices are generally to high.  I used it as an
indication that the $199 price the guy quoted was VERY high.

Lew
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From: ALEX MOTTRAM                           Number: 14354
  To: MIKE CHARETTE                            Date: 02/15/94  1:30a
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

+-
|  AM> +-
|  AM> Correction:  One needs a vesa driver if his card is not supported by
|  AM> the program itself.  :)  Won't support SVGA on a 386?
|  AM> Please don't tell my 386DX40 that.  It was doing it just
|  AM> fine this morning (but it's not recommended).  :)
|
|
| I don't see why you can't run the game on a 386, maybe you video card
| should be upgraded to 1 mg.
+-[MC=>AM]

Perhaps you meant that for the person who I was replying to.  I was saying
that SVGA runs fine on my 386DX40 w/STB PowerGraph 1M SVGA.  :)  It's still
a little choppy, but well worth it!

On the same topic, does anyone know a set pattern to get past the knights
in the bathroom?  My mind doesn't think that many moves into the future.  :)

THanks,

Alex Mottram

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 14355
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  7:41p
Subj: Thanks !  200 sold !                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 Thanks to everyone for the response to the $99  Hitachi  3600  cd
 rom drives special.  I've almost sold 200 and  still  have a  few
 left.  I'm still offering 4 drives setup in an external case  for
 $530 (including shipping and c.o.d.) and the 8  drive  setup  for
 $970.  Call 205-824-2552 to get yours.

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From: GINGER WARBIS                          Number: 14356
  To: JERRY THOMSON                            Date: 02/15/94  4:38p
Subj: PS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,
    Sorry to barge in on you like this, but I'm kind of in a hurry for
some info. Could I trouble you?
    I have an opportunity to get in on a distributorship for a bunch of
PS/2's among other things and need to know what I'm dealing with before
I go back to the bargaining table. Any info. would be appriciated.
Especially need to know things like:
         How much would you pay for a pre-leased
         What kinds of bugs are present/what are fixes
            (so we can check to see what's been done)
         Overall, are you happy w/ the one you've got?

I'm going to be posting the same type of S.O.S around, so please respond
only if you have the time.
Thanks in advance,
    Ginger

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 14357
  To: MARKUS ROHNER                            Date: 02/16/94  8:10a
Subj: FrontDoor and CD-ROM Chan               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi,

 > I'm looking for experiences in having a CD-ROM Changer
 > running together with
 > FrontDoor. What kind of SW is used to change the CD's?
 > Does it work
 > when someone request files from different CD's that
 > are not currently loaded?

 > Any tips kindly appreciated.

 > Kind regards from Switzerland
 > Markus

Frontdoor doens't have anything to do with your  cdroms. Your bbs software
takes care of the cdroms.

Scott

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From: JOSEPH ROBERTSON                       Number: 14358
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  5:56p
Subj: Ultima underworld cd want               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

         Where can I get the Ultima Underworld I & II CD at a reasonable price?
Thanks for any info.

===
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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 14359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94 11:01p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * copied by Sqed/32 0.87 @1:3803/1.4

OS/2 2.1 on CDROM, inlcuding original box, disks and documentation. Will throw
in a copy of OS/2 for Dummies.
A 19.95 value.



                                     40.00 Plus shipping.





                Netmail 1:3803/1.4 or call 1-318-988-1404






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From: PHILIP JONES                           Number: 14360
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  5:11p
Subj: Try This!!!!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

O.K. folks -  try this one out!
 I've got a matshushita/panasonic doublespeed cd-rom drive, and
I've got a little problem. I installed the software and drivers, and
everything works great - until I leave Windows! When I boot up (just in
DOS for now), my computer recognizes and obeys drive e:. The same is
true in Windows - i.e. I can see drive e: in File Manager. However, when
I leave windows, all of a sudden my drive e: is gone!!! I give dos the
command   " e: ", and all it says is "drive not recognized"!   I cannot
understand this because the driver is loaded and working fine UNTIL I
leave windows! This really makes me mad, as I can only run DOS cd-roms
either before windows or by re-booting! Can anyone help me out? Any
responses would be VERY much appreciated!

    Thanks,
     Phil Jones

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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 14361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  6:22p
Subj: Mac CDs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello there!

        I'm looking for a recent MacIntosh Shareware cd-rom to put it on my ibm
bbs (in dos format)? Does anybody knows where I could find that?

Thanks!

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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 14362
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 02/15/94  6:28p
Subj: Mac Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello!

        I'm very interested in your Mac CDs Catalog.

        Please let me know if you have Mac CDs suitable for an IBM bbs...!

        Or send me your catalog at:

        PIERRE LESSARD
        2400, 121E RUE
        ST-GEORGES, (QUEBEC)
        CANADA G5Y 8A2

Thanks!

P.Lessard

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From: LON LENTZ                              Number: 14363
  To: RICK SHOAF                               Date: 02/16/94  3:57p
Subj: Re: OS2/2.1                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LL> Not true. IBM has CD driver replacements for a lot of the current drives.
LL>Call them to get the file name for your drive, then d'l it from their BBS.
RS> Do you have their BBS's number?

      919-517-0001



... "Is this machine recording?" -- William S. Burroughs
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 14364
  To: GREGORY HOPKINS                          Date: 02/17/94  6:37a
Subj: Re: BBS Ready                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

15 Feb 94   7:18:31, All whispered to Gregory Hopkins...
--------------------------------------------------------

GH> Looking for a bbs ready (FILES.BBS or FILES.PCB) disk of MACINTOSH
GH> shareware... I run a fairly large non-mac run BBS with a large share of Mac
GH> users, and a DRM-604x cd rom changer. I want to put a disk online for my ma
GH> users... Any help would be appreciated..
GH>
GH> Also:  What are some of the recomendations for other BBS ready PC shareware
GH> disks... I run NO11 right now, and would like to add another PC shareware d
GH> now also...
GH>
GH> Thanks In Advance
GH>
GH> Greg
 **************************************************************************
 February 1994        Saylor Enterprises   [phone]
 **************************************************************************

 9000 Sounds...................21.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........22.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..24.00    MVP Game Jamboree.............12.00
 America's Premier Shareware...14.00    Night Owl 10.0................30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......23.00    Night Owl Games...............18.00
 Color Magic PC/MAC............24.00    Night Owl Grpahics............23.00
 Dictionaries and Languages....15.00    Pier 3........................25.00
 DR.Games......................15.00    Publishers Paradise Pro.......32.00
 DR.Music......................15.00    Shareware '93.................21.00
 DR.Windows....................15.00    Shareware Explorer 4 Disk.....38.00
 Games 1993....................22.00    Shareware Studio #3...........15.00
 Hackers Chronicles............27.00    So Much Shareware #3..........23.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Software Vault Gold...........18.50
 Home and Office Legal Guide...15.00    Tech. Arsenel.................20.00
 House of Games................16.50    Windows 1993..................21.00
 Lan Master....................21.00    Windowware....................15.00
 Monster Media '93.............23.50    Window Master.................20.00
** All disk do not include shipping.
===========================================================================
                      Special:
 Rebel Assult Delivered to your Door...........$50.00
 Shareware Overload Trio...(3 Disk Set)........$20.00
===========================================================================


       You can FREQ the Newest CD Files list from 1:231/570 by FREQing
                 CD-ROM.TXT or our Adult list is AD.TXT

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From: TIM SMITH                              Number: 14365
  To: WONG THOMAS                              Date: 02/17/94  1:44p
Subj: Mitsumu LU005 Interface (               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT*   Does anyone know where I can get a 16bit interface card for the single
  *speed
  *Mitsumi LU005 cd-rom drive??? Would appreciate any info if you know which
  *store
  *or someone who might be selling just the card w/o the cd-rom drive!

Hey I have the card you are looking for. How about $20 and I pay
shipping?
Tim

Timothy

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 14366
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94 11:09a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Forwarded From Area ["CDROM_SALE"]...
 * Originally By: Mario Bonelli - On Date/Time: (17 Feb 94  11:08:31)
 * Originally To: All - Subj: Catalogs

If you have a cdrom catalog with Adult Titles please send me a catalog...

Mario Bonelli
1938 S. 9Th St.
Phila. Pa . 19148


Mario Bonelli - AMIGA_CDROM & CNET Moderator - FREQ US!
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 14367
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/17/94  9:54a
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Brice  Fleckenstein  wrote  in  a   message   to   John   Foster:

BF>  There  is  no  such  thing  as  a  CD-ROM  drive  with  an  IDE
BF> compatable interface.

 There will be soon.    See "Inside Track"  by John  C.  Dvorak...
 Pc Mag Vol 13  #3  page 95...


 "Now it appears that Sony, Mitsumi,  and  Philips  will  announce
 shortly an IDE Version of a  CD-Rom drive.  All  three  companies
 (and I assume others)   showed  their  drives  at  secret  Comdex
 hospitality suites.  Systems designers will eat these things  up.
 If you can toss out the need for SCSI circuits in a  system,  the
 computer can be even cheaper."

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From: KEVIN TAKAKI                           Number: 14368
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 02/17/94  2:22p
Subj: Re:Rebel Assault                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Kenshin Sakura to All dated 02-14-94 ***
>      Hi everyone! Can anyone recommend some good, recent CD-ROM software
> (preferably games)? I haven't seen that many around, so I was just
> wondering if I am missing something I really ought to get. Is/Was Rebel
> Assault any good?

Well, that depends on whether or not you've played xwing... I like Rebel
Assault just because it is Star Wars, however, you have a lot less control
than xwing... it is basically an arcade game, and everything follows a
specific pattern... Cool graphics though, although they could have done the
music better... still, in all a pretty good game... other than that the only
other CD game I've played is 7th guest... I really liked that one though...

k.t.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 14369
  To: GARY NEWMAN                              Date: 02/16/94 11:55p
Subj: Re: Os/2 & T7g Cake                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Gary Newman to All <=-

 GN> I'm wondering what I can do to get the pieces of the cake to rasie
 GN> faster after they have been select.. man is it slow.. it's much faster
 GN> in DOS but I'd rather not do it in DOS.

Try setting the following DOS Settings for T7G:
  HW_TIMER             ON
  IDLE_SENSITIVY      100
  INT_DURING_IO        ON
  VIDEO_8514A_XGA_TRAP OFF
  VIDEO_RETRACE_EMULATION OFF

Those settings give me pretty decent speed on the cakes....still get the
slight pauses every once in awhile.

... OS/2 The only way to fly!
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From: MATT DELCO                             Number: 14370
  To: DAVE HOLOHAN                             Date: 02/16/94  6:54p
Subj: Cd-Rom Changer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH>Does anyone know how to set up a CD-ROM changer for
  >operation on a BBS? If there is any additional software/TSR
  >or DOOR that needs to do something special?
  >What about handling having to change out for requests
  >for files on different CD's?

Depends on the brand.  A lot of changers assign each CD a drive letter.
Then when you access that drive, the CD changer automatically loads that
CD.  It its a 6 CD changer, you'll have 6 CD-ROM drives (in a sense.)

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From: BOB BROCK                              Number: 14371
  To: DAVE DZURIS - ANYONE...WITH INFO!!!      Date: 02/17/94  6:49p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301 BMS Cdrom Drive!!       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELP Please, Anyone or Dave Dzuris can i get some Help getting a Toshiba CDROM
Drive to run model XM3301BME SCSI It just keeps saying bad or missing
IBMCDROM.SYS Can anyone give me some clues, or a number where i might be able
to Dload another IBMCDROM.SYS. I Would greatly appreciate any/all HELP
especially from you DAVE DZURIS i lost your number so i can't call you direct!
Thanks if anyone has info Please respond here or directly to 1:273/926 and
Dave Dzuris please if you read this CALL ME ASAP 215/425-9144
 ...Bob...*********

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14372
  To: JERRY THOMSON                            Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: "bad" dealers                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JT:>> record of you in our computer database under that name.  You have me

JT:>HAHAHA....  I asked my girlfriend to order it for me...  Her name is J.
JT:>Sidebottom....   Wondered if you would pick up on that one...  Check under
t
JT:>last name and you will find it.  I have her make my appointments etc., as
I'
JT:>never around to get personal things done due to my heavy work load...

Aha!  So that's what it was.....<g>  I was looking everywhere for your name
because I could just see you coming back and saying, "I ordered from
Starvector over 2 weeks ago, and still haven't received anything!!", or
something along those lines!  Well, glad you received it OK.  Let me know
if you need anything else.

Later,
.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14373
  To: BERT PATTERSON                           Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB:> BP> No, No, only kidding, but I bet a lot of Americans still
LB:> BP> don't know where Australia is ,or anything about it.

Isn't it a suburb of Cleveland?  8)


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14374
  To: CHARLES HORSEY                           Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: Pier4                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH:>Does anyone know when Pier 4 is due out?

Charles,

We are the frontline distributor for Pier CD's, and can tell you that they
will be shipping by March 1st.  We will have them probably about a week or
so before everyone else if you would like to pre-order one at $29.

Let me know!

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: WIN A PIER 4!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                -----------------------------------------
                 W I N   A   P I E R   4   C D - R O M !
                -----------------------------------------

All Starvector Software customers between Feb. 19th and March 19th will
AUTOMATICALLY be entered in our 2nd annual PIER CD GIVEAWAY!  The drawing
will be held Monday, March 21st 1994, and THREE lucky individuals will be
awarded brand new Pier 4 shareware CD-ROMs!  As stated, all Starvector
customers will be entered into the drawing automatically, but there is no
purchase necessary to enter and win.  You may also enter by sending a
postcard with your name, address, and phone number to our address below.
In fact, it was Vernon Melton Jr. who won last year through a postcard
entry!  Congratulations to Vernon.  This year's winners will be posted
in this echo, with their permission of course.

As a side note, we are the frontline distributor for Pier CD's, and would
like to thank all who have pre-ordered with us.  The CD has been delayed by
a couple of weeks because the 1994 files are still pouring in, but we just
received word that they should begin shipping by March 1st........so get
your order in if you haven't already done so!  Dealers:  Give us a call!
We can offer you the LOWEST mix-n-match pricing on all Pier CD's. (Even
lower than your "normal" sources)

If any of the three winners should already happen to own a Pier 4, they
are welcome to exchange their prize for a CD of equal value.

If you don't already own a Pier CD, and would like to experience the
ULTIMATE in bbs-ready shareware CD's, incorporating the latest state-of-the
art graphic user interface technology, then get your order AND/OR entry in
now!  The price will be $29.00 on these great discs, but due to the
rapidly growing popularity of Pier's, early availability may be touch and
go.......so reserve yours today, or try your luck with our drawing!  Either
way, don't miss out on THE shareware CD that's selling itself on reputation
alone!  ***Special package deals are coming too!  Stay tuned***

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FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Perot of Borg:  Resistance?  Now that's just sad.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14376
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  9:51p
Subj: BEST-SELLING NEW CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           |  Title:  CREAM OF THE CROP 2         Price:  $25   |

     * 654mb total * Virus-scanned with the LATEST scanning software
     * FILES.BBS support * 5000+ total files * 14mb of source code
     * 0% internal duplicates
     * Only 2.3% dupes to Night Owl 11
     * SUPER SPECIAL 2-CD PACKAGE:  Cream of the Crop 2 + Night Owl 11..$49

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

 * SLMR 2.1a * '94 L.A. quake survivor.

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From: VOLKER MEYER                           Number: 14377
  To: JOE DIAZ                                 Date: 02/17/94  8:08a
Subj: Re: king's quest 6                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JD>   Have you been to Chessland?  If not, you'll have to go to
 JD> a saved game (or start over if you don't have one)  before
 JD> you enter the Catacombes.
"No humans are alowed in chessboardland. Never were, never will be" =:)
But as the manual sais: it might be usefull to meet people of each isle. =:)

Can you give me a hint on how to swap the lamp after I found the evidence in
the trunk.

Or how do I get evidence when I give Jello the replica?

Volker.
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From: VOLKER MEYER                           Number: 14378
  To: JOE DIAZ                                 Date: 02/17/94  8:10a
Subj: Re: Kq6                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Joe Diaz wrote in a message to Volker Meyer:

 JD>  Where are you stuck?
I don't get to swap the lamp, and if I do I don't get the evidence.


Volker.
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From: VOLKER MEYER                           Number: 14379
  To: GRANT DEASON                             Date: 02/17/94  8:19a
Subj: Kq6                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GD> Yeah, I've played and completed it several ways.  Netmail me
 GD> or reply here for assistance.
Well, as far as I know there are only 2 ways to complete it.
   1) to get into the castle dressed as a maiden.
   2) to get into the castle via the magic door.

My problem is: I figured out that I need evidence to blame Alhazred for treason
and I need to swap the lamp.

In 1) I find the evidence easily in the trunk, but when it's show-down in the
tower the genie gets me because I didn't get to swap the lamp.
On the other hand I'm not sure if I met Jello in that version. =:)

In 2) I locate jello's bedroom and can pass him the replica of the genie's
lamp,
but I can't get hands on evidence.

I guess it's got to to something with all those holes in the walls (e.g. I can
see that Alhazred is writing a letter to somebody, but I can't get my hands on
it.

The treasures in the treasure-room seem to be evidence enough, but I can't take
them.

Just a hint...please. =:)))
I want to figure out as much as possible by myself.

Volker.
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From: MARK AUGUSTYN                          Number: 14380
  To: JIM FAHNESTOCK                           Date: 02/18/94  1:34p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x &SB Pro                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > JS>I used to have a regular soundblaster and a Mitsumi single speed drive
 > JS>and I remember I had to repin the audio cable, must I do this also to
 > JS>the new drive and soundcard?

 > Yup.  Ground and sound reversed.

How do I know which two those are?

Mark

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From: JIM RICHARDS                           Number: 14381
  To: PAUL CHVOSTEK                            Date: 02/17/94  7:12p
Subj: Fido CD-ROM conference                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Paul:
   I don't know if you are aware but as of thursday 02/17
   night (I down loaded earlier in the day), the CD-ROM
   conference is stll acting up.
   All the messages were the same (6 I believe) and only
   had the heading, with no text.

   Hope you are able to correct this.

   Best reguards: jim r
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From: GLENN PROVAN                           Number: 14382
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94 12:24a
Subj: CD ROM & SB 16                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day,

I recently sold my old SB board in order to upgrade my system.  I am currently
leaning to getting the SB 16 card to replace it.

Also, though, I wish to buy a CD ROM drive.  I was wondering if anyone could
give me some advice or help on what kind of CD ROM drive I ought to be looking
for, to work with my SB16.

Also, for CD ROM drives, I was wondering what features/software/cables I should
make sure are included with the purchase in order to get it up and running as
soon as possible.

I realize, that I should get a double-speed drive at least, that is MPC 2
compatible, but the rest, as in brand names, etc, I'm not too sure about.

Also, would it make any difference running a CD ROM on a 386/33 MHz system?

Thanks for the help, it will be appreciated!
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 14383
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/17/94  7:57p
Subj: CD DICTIONARY                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Well, for about $895 you can have the unabridged Oxford English Dictionary II
>-- a superb dictionary incidentally.

>Or for considerably less, consider Microsoft Bookshelf which includes a
>dictionary (don't know if unabridged or not,  probably is abridged)

BF> Happens to be the electronic version of my "primary" dictionary - it's not
BF>NEARLY as complete as the Oxford, but good enough for most daily usage.

Oh, I agree Brice. It is quite sufficient for daily use. I have
two paper dictionaries at the side of my monitor which are
generally handier than Bookshelf when I need them. The Oxford
(the "old" compact that you have to read with a magnifying glass)
is on a shelf behind me if it really becomes necessary.

I had the OED II disc for a few weeks for a review and wish I
could have kept it but I also know I'd only use it about as
much as the previous paper version. Cheers!
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 14384
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 02/18/94  3:47p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Spec's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP>What matters is not how long it takes to get to the first byte of a
JP>file (random access speed), but how long it takes to get to the LAST
JP>byte of a file.

Nicely put, James.
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From: ROGER GILER                            Number: 14385
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  8:08a
Subj: NEC-3Xi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have had a 3Xi since they came out and am using an UltraStor SCSI 24F
controller.  The CD-ROM came without a driver. I am using it with a
Gateway 486DX33 EISA.

NEC said that I will have to buy their SCSI card if I want to use it.
 Driver is the responsibility of the interface maker.

UltraStor does not have a driver.  Suggested that I buy a driver set
from Corel. "It might work", I was told by their Tech.

Called the vendor (PC-Connection) and they do not have a solution but
 are willing to take the drive back. I don't want to do that.

I order to use it for DOS and Windows applications, I have to use OS/2
 and go to a DOS or Windows box.  IBM has incorporated the 3X drivers in
 their latest release. There has to be a better way...

Somehow, I must be missing something, somewhere.

Any words of advice? Comments? Insults?

Thanks.

        Roger
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 14386
  To: JAMES POLLOCK                            Date: 02/18/94  6:54a
Subj: Re: CD's for Sale or TRAD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

James,
    I got the cd yesterday, but you never left me an address or
something to let me know where to send you the cd? It will be a few days
until you get yours because I have to wait on an address from ya!
Send the address ASAP or you will have to wait on your cd!

                        Thanks,
                             Sam Figueroa
615-728-7383

P.S. You write like a kid?????????????????????????????????
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From: SEAN BEGGS                             Number: 14387
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/18/94  8:05a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



 BF>  Our dollar WAS the first "dollar", as I recall - and
 BF> is a much better known
 BF> currancy than any of the "other" dollars in most or all of the world....


Please... this entire thread is ridiculous.  I think it's been agreed by at
least one person in at least 3 countries that adding the country's name after
the currency would go a long way in preventing confusion, despite whose
currency(note the spelling) is more recognised.



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From: SEAN BEGGS                             Number: 14388
  To: BRYAN ANSLOW                             Date: 02/18/94  8:09a
Subj: Cover CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



 BA> Does anyone know where the plastic CD cases can be obtained from at a
 BA> non-ripoff price.

Try your local record store.  Many here sell CD cases for roughly $1 (Canadian,
that is, but I'm certain there would be a comparable price where you live...
which is...where?)



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From: JOHN ALLISON                           Number: 14389
  To: JOHN ALLISON                             Date: 02/18/94  9:54a
Subj: Same name                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

As I have never received any mail for you did not realise there was a problem.
Unfortunately I am automated on so many boards that for me to change would be
a major hassle.  If you can get yours changed to include the M would
appreciate it.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 14390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94 10:03p
Subj: Catalogs WANTED!!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

My parents recently purchased a CD-ROM drive and are interested in
CD-ROM titles available.  No adult titles though...
        Please send YOUR catalog to:
                Richard Snyder
                R.D.#1 BOX 2201
                Felton,  PA  17322
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14391
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 02/18/94 11:20p
Subj: TurboPascal Sharware CDROM              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (13 Feb 94) Eric Engelmann wrote to All...

 EE> EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of

Does EMS have a medical disc?  I think that someone mentioned it but
????

TTYL

Vic

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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 14392
  To: MARCEL GINGRAS                           Date: 02/18/94 11:27p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >         dis moi de quelle region de Quebec tu es?

        Je demeure dans la région de la Beauce, dans la ville de St-Georges
plus précisément (c'est à une heure de route de Québec).

 > Je viens d'acquerir un CD-ROM et tu peux t'imaginer combien
 > je suis content de mon nouveau "jouet"!

        Sur quel programme de BBS fonctionnes-tu? RA?

        Moi, je fonctionne sur RA avec 2 CD-ROMs Mitsumi et environs 11 disques
contenant des shareware pour le bab.

        En passant, connais-tu des CD-roms qui contiennent de bons sharewares
Mac?

        A bientôt...

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From: DAVE MCKNIGHT                          Number: 14393
  To: PHILIP JONES                             Date: 02/18/94  8:29a
Subj: Try This!!!!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ>O.K. folks -  try this one out!
  > I've got a matshushita/panasonic doublespeed cd-rom drive, and
  >I've got a little problem. I installed the software and drivers, and
  >everything works great - until I leave Windows! When I boot up (just in
  >DOS for now), my computer recognizes and obeys drive e:. The same is
  >true in Windows - i.e. I can see drive e: in File Manager. However, when
  >I leave windows, all of a sudden my drive e: is gone!!! I give dos the
  >command   " e: ", and all it says is "drive not recognized"!   I cannot
  >understand this because the driver is loaded and working fine UNTIL I
  >leave windows! This really makes me mad, as I can only run DOS cd-roms
  >either before windows or by re-booting! Can anyone help me out? Any
  >responses would be VERY much appreciated!

Post your AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS and maybe someone can spot
something.


 * OLX 2.2 * The quality goes in before the tagline goes on.


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From: JAMES MULLEN                           Number: 14394
  To: ALTON MORRELL                            Date: 02/19/94 11:19a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Scsi Driver                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Poe Lim to Alton Morrell: Cd-rom Scsi Driver <=-

 AM> I HAVE A NEC MultiSpin 3X CD-ROM PLAYER.
 AM> I ALSO HAVE AN AHA-1540CF/1542CF SCSI BOARD AND A SOUND BLASTER
 AM> PRO ADAPTEC SCSI.
 AM> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME TO FIND THE SOFTWARE TO GET MY PLAYER UP AND
 AM> RUNNING.
 PL>
 PL> Either get Adaptec's EZ-SCSI, or Corel SCSI 2.0; they will have the
 PL> necessary  drivers for your card.
 PL>
 PL> Cheers,
 PL> Poe

    Alton,
  I can't help ya there, since I'm running the Trantor 2x speed CD drivers
which are comaptible with the SCSI controller, incorporated on the PAS-16
sound card.......but I would suggest giving the Creative Labs Support BBS a
call.  I'm sure that they will have a driver for your setup....and for FREE!
Now......where did I put that damn number........Anyone?  Check your SB
manuals.  Usually they have their support BBS # listed either on the first
or last pages.  If not....post a message to ALL here, requesting the phone
number.  I'm sure you will get plenty of responses. :)

    Good Luck.........
                                                Jim Mullen...aka Brazen!

WME: * Brazen's HELL! * 301-776-8259 * 28,800? * TriBBS 5.02 *

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From: FRANCOIS ROY                           Number: 14395
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94 11:45p
Subj: NEC                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does NEC have a BBS from which they distribute driver updates?

We have a NEC 3x Multispin (I forget the exact model no) and one of those NEC
Parallel-to-SCSI adapters.  It "almost" works: you can do a DIR on the drive,
and after answering 'R' to the 'Not ready... Abort/Retry/Ignore' prompt, you
actually get your diretory.

I'm assuming that replacing the 1 year-old drivers with ones created after the
3x Multispin might cure the problem altogether...

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From: BRENT WILCOX                           Number: 14396
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 12:14a
Subj: Substituting CD Rom??                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone know how to get the subst command to work with a cd-rom?  I am trying to
get it to substitute so I can run it off a lan..any ideas?


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From: DARRYL TEICHROEB                       Number: 14397
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  4:15p
Subj: PANASONIC CR-562-B & OS/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm hoping someone who has the Panasonic CR562-B CD-Rom drive can tell
me how they got OS/2 2.1 to recognize it properly. I've tried many
different versions of SBCD2.ADD in the Config.Sys with no luck. Here is
a note iin the latest SBCD2.ADD archive I've found:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

"  SBCD2.ADD works with the double speed (300 KB/sec) Panasonic
   CR-563 CD ROM drive or the single speed (150KB/sec) Panasonic
   CR-521, CR-523, CR-531 CD ROM drives. It does not work with
   any other CD-ROM drives. "

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The version of this SBCD2.ADD is dated 09-01-93. I'm going to give
Creative Labs BBS *another* call to see what they have there.. I can't
understand why they won't release a driver for the ever popular CR562
series of drives.

Darryl
InterNet Mail - [e-mail]

... Bugs are sons of glitches.
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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 14398
  To: BERT PATTERSON                           Date: 02/18/94 12:37a
Subj: NightOwl under OS/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-11-1994, BERT PATTERSON had the audacity to speak to JONATHAN
CHAU...

BP> I am glad someone else is having trouble reading CD-ROM disks.

Sorry, the problem with NightOwl is that I forgot to change the CD
drive letter to H.

BP> First I couldn't read HOBBES OS/2 rom from my Mitsumi CD rom
BP> drive. The distributor changed over the drive and sometimes it reads
BP> the disk, same problem in DOS or OS/2.

Maybe it's a problem with the disc?

BP> I bought a Sounder Blaster Pro and CR-523-B CD-ROM drive and the
BP> Hobbes disk works OK but now I notice that Window Master which is a
BP> CD with all windows programs on it, works OK in DOS but in OS/2 only
BP> reads the files in the root directory.

That's really weird.  I haven't heard of any problems like that with a
Panasonic drive.  Have you assigned the right drive letter in the
program?

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - [e-mail]
CompuServe - 72712,2232


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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 14399
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94 12:45a
Subj: Hard Day's Night                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

Could somebody provide a description of the "Hard Day's Night" CD?  Am
I correct in assuming that it's a CD version of the movie?  If so,
how's the quality, and what "perks" does it have, that the video
doesn't?

Thanks!

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - [e-mail]
CompuServe - 72712,2232


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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 14400
  To: LON LENTZ                                Date: 02/16/94  1:39a
Subj: Hitachi CD Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-13-1994, LON LENTZ had the audacity to speak to TERRY BLOUNT...

LL>  Well, thanx for the info. You wouldn't happen to know of a way
LL> that I  can speed things up to run mulitmedia video stuff, would you?

Try a CD cache.

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - [e-mail]
CompuServe - 72712,2232


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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 14401
  To: JASON SUTTLE                             Date: 02/18/94 12:39a
Subj: The 11th Hour                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-15-1994, JASON SUTTLE had the audacity to speak to ALL...

JS> Does anyone know if Trilobyte/Virgin Games has released "The 11th
JS> Hour" yet? Just curious.  Am wanting to test out my new 2x drive.

Look for an April release date.

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - [e-mail]
CompuServe - 72712,2232


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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14402
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/13/94  4:03p
Subj: 40pin connectors                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Brice Fleckenstein blurted out ≡=-
 BF> Calling the 40-pin-cable CD-ROM stuff "IDE" just perpetuates an error
 BF> that can AND HAS had some ignorant folks trying to connect their CD-ROM
 BF> drives to IDE hard drive controllers - with disasterous results to
 BF> their system. Even ONE such person making such an error due to messages

What would happen if someone was to connect them up?  EL

... Be glad you don't get all the government you pay for.
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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14403
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/13/94  7:22p
Subj: Re: 1994 cd catalogue now               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Denis Coleman blurted out ≡=-
 DC>Well finally the 1994 CD catalogue is now ready for
 DC>everyone asks for a copy to be posted to them on 720k
 DC>floppy disks.
 DC>leave your address here for a copy, or call

Please mail me one at my relative's address:
Lim
Department of Physics
Stanford, CA 94305
Thanx!  EL

... AT&M0&GETMAIL&READMAIL&REPLY&STEALTAGLINES
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From: JOS CHRISPIJN                          Number: 14404
  To: ANDREW SEE                               Date: 02/16/94  5:11p
Subj: Re: Texel 3024                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Andrew,

Quoting your message (12 Feb 94  17:12) to BORIS OSADCIW :

 AS> Boris, have you heard about CD's getting very hot inside the Texel
 AS> drive. When  I remove a caddy from the drive, it is physically quite
 AS> hot. Any ideas?
Sorry i interrupt; some CD drives just keep spinning without stopping after
some (10) minutes... Thus producing heat that is given to data-media :)
Allthough I have a NEC (that stops after a while), it sometimes happens
that the drive keeps spinning; i have some weird idea that it has something
to do with the used software (in such seldom cases I reset the system and
it's gone...)

Later,
Jos Chrispijn

... A good memory does not equal pale ink.
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From: TONY SAUNDERS                          Number: 14405
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/14/94 10:57a
Subj: PRE-ORDER PIER 4!                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS>          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
MS>            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
MS>
MS> THE 11TH HOUR * Exciting sequel to 7th Guest. Don't miss
MS>out!.......$59.00
MS> CD SOURCEBOX * Current code for VisualBasic, Pascal, and
MS>C..........$29.00
MS> PIER 4 * What WILL be the hottest new shareware CD of
MS>1994..........$29.00

Hi Mike,when is the expected release date for the 11th Hour ?

See ya
Tony.


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From: CHRIS BRITTAIN                         Number: 14406
  To: ROB MCINTYRE                             Date: 02/15/94  6:58p
Subj: Re: Help Amiga titles.                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of 27 Jan 94 Rob Mcintyre wrote to Denis Coleman:


 DC>>     I am looking for some amiga cd titles, they are  'FRED FISH' disk
 DC>> and a cd with the 17bit collection on  it.

 RM> You can get the Fred Fish disks from Mr. Fish himself :

 RM> Fred Fish
 RM> 1835 East Belmont Drive
 RM> Tempe, AZ  85284
 RM> USA

Orders for FISH CD-ROMs should go to the new address:

Amiga Library Services
610 N. Alma School Road, Suite 18
Chandler, AZ 85224-3687
USA

FAX or Voice: [phone]
email: [e-mail]


Catch 'Ya Later,
                Chris.B.

... If we who have cannot help those who have not, then we cannot help
ourselves.

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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14407
  To: JOHN FOSTER                              Date: 02/14/94  4:36p
Subj: Re: Mpc Title Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting John Foster to Daniel Tsui <=-

 DT>I have the following MPC Titles for sale in stock. These are our specials t
 DT>the BBS community whilst stocks last, so please mention this ad! (The price
 DT>are in $AUD.)

 DT>A Hard Day's Night (Beatles' Movie) - $60
 DT>   - full length movie + much more!

 JF> Daniel, your specials for the BBS community don't seem so "special"
 JF> considering CD-ROM Warerhouse is offering this same CD for $29.95 in
 JF> both PC and MAC versions. What gives?

Watch it... he DID mention it's in AUD (Australian $) and so you come
from the US. Not our fault is it? And though $29.95 American comes out
to maybe $40-45 AUD we always get pretty ripped off. :)

Speaking as an Australian...

-T-

... Cogito, ergo Homer - I think, therefore... Doughnuts!
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From: NIGEL HUNT                             Number: 14408
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/13/94  2:56p
Subj: CD ROM help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All ,

I have a Creative Labs SoundBlaster 16 and CD ROM unit (The one that comes in
the kit)

When I play some CD's like Mad Dog McCree etc I get a popping noise during the
speech. Has anybody else experienced this and have they managed to fix it or
am I just wasting my time.

───┐
   └───> Regards,  Nigel Hunt

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From: JOHN FOTI                              Number: 14409
  To: EUGENE CHAN                              Date: 02/15/94  3:26p
Subj: Re: Kings Quest 6 Sale - Aussie only    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eugene Chan to John Foti <=-

 EC> Gadday John...

 EC> How does Inca CD sound to swap for your KQ6? If interested, call me on
 EC> 02 451 6439. If I'm not home, just leave your name and number and I'll
 EC> get back to you.

    Sorry I already have Inca CD. Do you have anything else that you are
    willing swap?

    I also have Return To Zork.


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From: DANIEL TSUI                            Number: 14410
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/15/94  3:01p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPINGr              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DC> I heard that as well, and they have since recut the
 DC> disc without any Disney images.  Disney is suing the
 DC> distributors as well.  I hear Warner will be suing
 DC> people for having Startrek stuff on their CDs soon and
 DC> I think others are suing for having their music
 DC> available on the discs for free in WAV and VOC files,
 DC> etc.  It is going to get so we will hardly be able to

what are the illegal files?

daniel.

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From: DANIEL TSUI                            Number: 14411
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  3:05p
Subj: February special                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gabriel Knight (Boxed)...$75.00

Price is in Aus dollars not US.

daniel
07-371-2885.



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From: JOHN CHAN                              Number: 14412
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94  7:56p
Subj: SONY CD-U 33A-01                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To All,


Could someone please give me the specs of the SONY CD-U 33A-01 CD-ROM drive !!!

Eg: Double spin, Photo CD etc !!!

Thanks in advance !!!

John

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From: MARC YOUNG                             Number: 14413
  To: JIM STEEN                                Date: 02/14/94  9:18p
Subj: CD-ROM Upgrading Tips an                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS>With all of this why do I still want a 3x or 4x SCSI?  I really can't
JS>justify it!  I'll probably replace my 1x Mits. with a 2x Pans. to plug
JS>into my SBPro (instead of the NEC 3Xi that I crave to attach to my
JS>UltraStor 34F VL and wait for the technology to "age" a little.

I have heard tell that the 3x are still slower than the Toshiba 2x in
practice, especially as software is unlkikely to be written with 3x or
4x in mind until the price significantly drops. Can anyone who owns a
Tosh drive confirm this??


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From: FRANK KING                             Number: 14414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  3:12p
Subj: cd-rom looking                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a 4 disk cd-rom changer or a jukebox I have an IDE driver
         I'd like to get some more cd's on my system or if anyone has a better
idea tell           me i can get by with just 2 more cd-rom changer in a nice
box and plug it in and let it go.  Also looking for an external modem v42 or
v32 14400 for my system if any one can help me with any idea's let me know.
 please leave mail on this board Frank King my voice phone [phone]
            Thank You
                      Frank





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From: MATTHEW OPOKA                          Number: 14415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94 10:55p
Subj: 6 Disc Cdrom Changer Wanted             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Does anyone have a Pioner 6 dick cdrom changer for sale?
I don't care if it is a slower model for around $500 or less.

Thanks
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From: DOUG KERSLAKE                          Number: 14416
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  6:42p
Subj: Flt Sim Scenery on CD?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anyone heard or seen if scenery files for Flight Simulator 4.0/5.0 are
available on CD?  If so, please E-mail me an address or phone number.  Thanks!


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From: PAUL PAINCHAUD                         Number: 14417
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 02/17/94 11:33a
Subj: Hitachi 3600's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Terry,,

The Hitachi 3600 drives you sent me worked very well.   I can only run 4
drives with the controlers I have here.  For a BBS its the best deal around.
Thanks for teh excellent and prompt servace..

Have a good time,,,
                                            =Paul

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From: JOHN UTLEY                             Number: 14418
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 02/18/94  4:56a
Subj: Conflict!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I recentlly upgraded my system to include a CD-Rom and a 16 bit sound card, but
I have (of course) run into a problem. I have a conflict somewhere in my system
that does not allow me to play many DOS based CD-Rom games that are
Graphic-intense..ie 7th Guest, Dracula Unleashed, Rebel Assault, ect.. I am
currently using a PAS 16 sound card, a Diamond Speed Star 24 graphics card, and
a MediaVision DoubleSpeed Cd-Rom... If anyone out there has encountered such a
problem, and can tell me what to do to allieviate it, I would be most
appreciative, and think of you kindly for the rest of my days...
Symptoms include : System lock-up in graphics and sound during intense scenes,
ability to run Windows based software.. Encarta, Cinemania, is NOT affected..

My sytem is a 486-25, running with 8 meg on the board, 14400 modem, mouse, 2 Hd
drives and one 3.5 floppy.

If you can help me, thank you ! ;)

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From: STEVE KRAISLER                         Number: 14419
  To: ZAPHOD BEEDLEBROX                        Date: 02/17/94  8:35p
Subj: CD-ROM and QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ZB>Fair enough if it works for you cool,but I have found that
ZB>whilst QEMM are always 2 steps ahead of DOS I don't think
ZB>they are user friendly as there are
ZB>just too many switches,options to make it all click together.I have pur
ZB>Versions 6 & 7 and upgraded them and am back to DOS 6.2 as
ZB>QEMM 7.2 has problems moving the Doublespace driver(or
ZB>their equivalent) to upper memory.This is detailed on their
ZB>BBS and they have not released the patch yet
ZB>due to compatibility problems.Don't get me wrong QEMM is an
ZB>excellent program and memmaker is a poor copy of it but
ZB>COMPATIBILITY is a bitch.Anyways good luck with it and
ZB>catch ya !!!
ZB>--- FMail 0.96Γ
ZB> * Origin: Centrelink BBS [phone] (3:711/926) (3:711/926)

I believe you mean 7.02 not 7.2 and there is a new version 7.03.  There are
patches out (look for them on your friendly bbs).  I run qemm 7.03 with
double-space and my cd-rom driver, a number of  and still get 634k.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 14420
  To: NATHAN BERG                              Date: 02/18/94  9:54a
Subj: Hitachi CD Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nathan Berg wrote in a message to Terry Blount:


NB>                         Firstly I got the wrong Hitachi
NB> Driver...It isHITACHI.sys and that is all there is on the
NB> disk titled Hitachi Extensions...        Secondly I believe,
NB> I have need of your Extensions by what you have told me. If
NB> possible may I call your BBS and obtain the right copy?

Sorry... I don't have these drivers available for download.  I don't think they
are shareware.

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 14421
  To: JOE HOUCHENS                             Date: 02/18/94 10:21a
Subj: aviation cd-disks                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>the reason I was asking about a aviation cd....a friend of mine has a
JH>board for aviation..."he's a pilot"  the CD has to be flight plan/
JH>utilities/weather programs etc.....some prices would be nice?

I think the price was around 25.00. And it does have programs for the
pilot. You are welcome to check it out on my board before you buy it.
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   + == ====== -== InterNET Address: [e-mail] ==-
               -== FidoNET Address:  Tom Miller@1:396/1 ==-
    SWAMP THANG BBS-24 CD's Online-USR 21.6-Marrero, LA [phone]
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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 14422
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/18/94 10:30a
Subj: New Cd-Rom Titles!                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS> CURRENT SHAREWARE 94 * Brand new release w/ great book!. BBS........$27.20
MS> SYSOP'S COMPANION * The ultimate collection of BBS-related programs.$17.40

Hi Mike,
      These two Cds are thay BBS Ready and How Many Dirs in each CD

Thanks
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               -== FidoNET Address:  Tom Miller@1:396/1 ==-
    SWAMP THANG BBS-24 CD's Online-USR 21.6-Marrero, LA [phone]
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14423
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 02/17/94  8:04p
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: NONE
Read: 02/20/94  7:23a                       Private: No

 TH> Doug, you know damn well that ads placed in this
 TH> echo must be limited to
 TH> 10 lines.... 10 LINE MAX ON ADS!

Your are quite correct and I will adjust the ad back to 10 immediately.  I
figured you had given up on the echo with Mr. Rinehart posting his catalog ad
every other day and 4 million request for catalog postings.  I figured what was
good for the goose <g>.  Consider it back to 10 lines, and thanks for coming
back into the echo and watching things again <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14424
  To: LUCA SPADA                               Date: 02/17/94  8:10p
Subj: Re: Top Drawer Released!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LS> Can you please tell me the dupes % against the following CDs:

 LS> Night Owl's 11
 LS> CD PowerBox II
 LS> Cream of The Crop #2

11.7 dupe with Cream of the Crop II and 6.4% dupe with Nightowl 11.  I didn't
get a chance to check it against CD Powerbox Ii yet.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14425
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/17/94  8:13p
Subj: Top Drawer Stats                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 MS> has no cash-only contingency.  You might try Doug
 MS> Carpenter or Jim Lambert
 MS> for Top Drawer.  We don't stock it, but we do sell
 MS> Software Vault Platinum
 MS> at $19.90, which is just as nice in my opinion.

One thing that Top Drawer has now over most of the other shareware CDs out is
no sound files or pcx files or gif or Disney or Warner stuff that can get you
sued for copyright violations.  Disney is out sueing the distributors now
besides the publishers and I wouldn't be surprised to see them trying to sue
dealers like you and i after that.  I in fact am going to be cutting back my
shareware selection fairly quick to eliminate the chance.  They have even
busted a couple of BBS's already from what I hear as well for having shareware
CDs on-line with Disney pics.  Sysop's won't have this worry with Top Drawer.

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From: CHARLES SMITH                          Number: 14426
  To: JERRY JOSEPH                             Date: 02/16/94 10:00p
Subj: Wanted Cd Made!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

--> Charles Smith Quotes a message written by Jerry Joseph
--> to All on 08:22 02-13-94 saying:
JJ> Hey, does anyone out there make CD's?  I've got several 250MB
JJ> want to put on CD for more ease of uses and storage..Please le
JJ> the cost would be.  Leave me e-mail or call [phone]  I'
JJ> someone close to Toledo, OH.
JJ>
JJ>                                 Thanks!
JJ>
JJ>
JJ>
Yep we custom create them.. your tape MUST be in QIC format..
If you are interested drop us a line..
Our prices run at $75.00 for the first one and $50.00 for each copy.. We've
been doing this for our User Group files to be placed on the Syste  for DL, and
our members who have CDROMs purchase copies of the CD and Have an instant User
Grou Library.
If you are interested drop me  line or two

Charles Smith
1:3634/27
Sysop Rising Storm BBS 910-487-3997

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From: JON PUZIO                              Number: 14427
  To: VOLKER MEYER                             Date: 02/18/94  7:57p
Subj: Kq6                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Volker Meyer said:
 > Hi there!

 > Is anyone around here playing Kq6 currently? I could use some
 > hints.




 > Volker.
 > ---
 >  * Origin: Heute ist morgen von gestern. (2:2445/10.14)

I have messed with it a little, It's a pretty cool game, If I find anything
out, I will let you know! DOES ANYONE KNOW if the CD VERSION of police quest 4
is out yet?????
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 14428
  To: TIM WENAS                                Date: 02/20/94  7:22a
Subj: Re: Mpc Title Sale                      Refer: 14407
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Watch it... he DID mention it's in AUD (Australian $) and so you come
-> from the US. Not our fault is it? And though $29.95 American comes ou
-> to maybe $40-45 AUD we always get pretty ripped off. :)

Folks, let's end this thread....

To everybody:  If you quote non-USA dollars, please say so.

tim
co-moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 14429
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/20/94  7:44a
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: 14423
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> every other day and 4 million request for catalog postings.  I figure
-> good for the goose <g>.  Consider it back to 10 lines, and thanks for
-> back into the echo and watching things again <g>.

I read *every* message that flows thru this echo.... The same is true
for CDROM_SALE and PLANET_CONNECT - the other echos I "moderate".

I only moderate when I have to.  Me having to tell established
dealers like you to limit ads to 10 lines is akin to hiding a cookie
jar from a 4 year old.  It's petty and I should'nt have to.  We're above
that.

Here recently, some dealers (not you) are blatantly ignoring the "10
line max on ocassionally posted ads" rule.  I suspect it's becuase they
think I don't care or that I play favorites with dealers.  They're
wrong.  Bob Hall established the 10 line rule and I have every intention
of seeing to it that this rule is followed.  Here it is again:

THERE IS A 10 LINE MAX ON OCASSIONALLY POSTED ADS.

If the current trend contines, I'm going to hide the cookie jar.  In
FidoNet terms, this equates to severing links to those who ignore
this 10 line rule....

I can "moderate" with the best of um when I'm forced to.

tim
co-moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 14431
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/20/94  7:49a
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: 14429
Read: NO                                    Private: No

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to DOUG CARPENTER
      and was forwarded to you by TIM HELTON
                          --------------------
-> every other day and 4 million request for catalog postings.  I figure
-> good for the goose <g>.  Consider it back to 10 lines, and thanks for
-> back into the echo and watching things again <g>.

I read *every* message that flows thru this echo.... The same is true
for CDROM_SALE and PLANET_CONNECT - the other echos I "moderate".

I only moderate when I have to.  Me having to tell established
dealers like you to limit ads to 10 lines is akin to hiding a cookie
jar from a 4 year old.  It's petty and I should'nt have to.  We're above
that.

Here recently, some dealers (not you) are blatantly ignoring the "10
line max on ocassionally posted ads" rule.  I suspect it's becuase they
think I don't care or that I play favorites with dealers.  They're
wrong.  Bob Hall established the 10 line rule and I have every intention
of seeing to it that this rule is followed.  Here it is again:

THERE IS A 10 LINE MAX ON OCASSIONALLY POSTED ADS.

If the current trend contines, I'm going to hide the cookie jar.  In
FidoNet terms, this equates to severing links to those who ignore
this 10 line rule....

I can "moderate" with the best of um when I'm forced to.

tim
co-moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 14432
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/20/94  7:49a
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: 14429
Read: NO                                    Private: No

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to DOUG CARPENTER
      and was forwarded to you by TIM HELTON
                          --------------------
-> every other day and 4 million request for catalog postings.  I figure
-> good for the goose <g>.  Consider it back to 10 lines, and thanks for
-> back into the echo and watching things again <g>.

I read *every* message that flows thru this echo.... The same is true
for CDROM_SALE and PLANET_CONNECT - the other echos I "moderate".

I only moderate when I have to.  Me having to tell established
dealers like you to limit ads to 10 lines is akin to hiding a cookie
jar from a 4 year old.  It's petty and I should'nt have to.  We're above
that.

Here recently, some dealers (not you) are blatantly ignoring the "10
line max on ocassionally posted ads" rule.  I suspect it's becuase they
think I don't care or that I play favorites with dealers.  They're
wrong.  Bob Hall established the 10 line rule and I have every intention
of seeing to it that this rule is followed.  Here it is again:

THERE IS A 10 LINE MAX ON OCASSIONALLY POSTED ADS.

If the current trend contines, I'm going to hide the cookie jar.  In
FidoNet terms, this equates to severing links to those who ignore
this 10 line rule....

I can "moderate" with the best of um when I'm forced to.

tim
co-moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 14433
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/20/94  7:49a
Subj: Best New $19 SHAREWARE CD               Refer: 14429
Read: NO                                    Private: No

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to DOUG CARPENTER
      and was forwarded to you by TIM HELTON
                          --------------------
-> every other day and 4 million request for catalog postings.  I figure
-> good for the goose <g>.  Consider it back to 10 lines, and thanks for
-> back into the echo and watching things again <g>.

I read *every* message that flows thru this echo.... The same is true
for CDROM_SALE and PLANET_CONNECT - the other echos I "moderate".

I only moderate when I have to.  Me having to tell established
dealers like you to limit ads to 10 lines is akin to hiding a cookie
jar from a 4 year old.  It's petty and I should'nt have to.  We're above
that.

Here recently, some dealers (not you) are blatantly ignoring the "10
line max on ocassionally posted ads" rule.  I suspect it's becuase they
think I don't care or that I play favorites with dealers.  They're
wrong.  Bob Hall established the 10 line rule and I have every intention
of seeing to it that this rule is followed.  Here it is again:

THERE IS A 10 LINE MAX ON OCASSIONALLY POSTED ADS.

If the current trend contines, I'm going to hide the cookie jar.  In
FidoNet terms, this equates to severing links to those who ignore
this 10 line rule....

I can "moderate" with the best of um when I'm forced to.

tim
co-moderator
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From: LINDA SATTERFIELD                      Number: 14435
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/18/94 11:43p
Subj: Comptons's int ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Answering a msg of <14 Feb 94>, from Linda Satterfield to Ed Duchek:
-> still have a few, my address is 8418 forest ridge, san antonio, tx
-> 78239 if you want to prepay, if not shoot me your info.

-> Ed Duchek [phone]

In the mail today Ed,  thanks!

                         --<--@  Linda  @-->--



===
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From: RODOLFO VAZ                            Number: 14436
  To: MARCUS RIBEIRO                           Date: 02/17/94  7:06p
Subj: Re: Cd'S Catalog                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MR> Hi Boris.
    Hi Marcus,

 MR> Would you please send me your catalog of CD's?
    You can get the latest Boris Osadciw's CD catalog here in
Brazil !!! From 1200 to 14K4, Draulas BBS, [phone], available
for FREQ (anyone can FREQ) as CCI.ZIP or just CCI (magic name).
    If you're not a Sysop, you can just log on to the BBS as
BORIS, no password required, no questionaire to answer, and type
<A>rquivos, <R>eceber, CCI.ZIP and <ENTER>.
    After that, you only need to enjou the very very very good
USA prices on CDs !!!
    Due to the storms during this month in Brasilia, my BBS is not
running at certain times (storms ...). If you're not able to connect
to my BBS, just call THE NAVIGATOR (4:806/16), [phone], and you
will be able to get the CCI.ZIP ... just log on as new user to get
the catalog, O.K. ?
    Any problems/doubts, just drop me a call or a NETMAIL, or you
can use any NATIONAL FIDONET conference (or CDROM conference as well),
and I will try to help you.

 MR> Thanks in advance.
    You're welcome.

 MR> Marcus Ribeiro
    Rodolfo Vaz

... Em 94 vote coerentemente  !
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From: PEDRO VIEIRA                           Number: 14437
  To: CHRIS MOORE                              Date: 02/16/94  7:27a
Subj: ENGLISH                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

=-> Quoting Chris Moore and Pedro Vieira <-=
Subject: ENGLISH

 CM> Bonjour Pedro

        Bonjour.

 >  Porquoi tout le monde ici parle anglais ? Porquoi le français est
 >  discriminé ? Je pense que l'anglais c'est bon, mas français c'est
 >  meilleur...
 >
 >  "This is a democratic society, not?"

 CM> La societe peut-etre, mais pas le Fidonet.  C'est une creation
 CM> americaine, et l'un des regles (que je casse maintenant) est que la
 CM> langue de communication sur les echoes internationaux est anglais.
 CM> Chaque echo a ses propres regles aussi. Le moderateur/moderateuse (si
 CM> c'est un mot) est le roi ou la reine de sa propre petite domaine. Si
 CM> on n'aime pas les regles, on n'est pas oblige de jouer!
 CM> Je suis curieux - pourquoi est-ce que quelqu'un en Amerique du Sud
 CM> veut parler francais?  Et qui dit que le francais est meilleur que
 CM> l'anglais?
 CM> Translation for non-French-speaking eavesdroppers:

        Je sais, je sais...
        Seconde question: je ne VEUX pas parler français, j'aime le
        français... Mais porquoi quelqu'un en Amerique du Nord veut le
        parler??? Hehehehehe...

 CM> Society maybe, but not Fidonet.  It's an american creation, and one of
 CM> the rules (that I'm breaking right now) is that the language of
 CM> communication in international echoes is english.  Also, each echo has
 CM> its own rules. The moderator is the king or queen of his/her own
 CM> little domain.  If someone doesn't like the rules, they don't have to
 CM> play!
 CM> I'm curious - why does someone in South America want to speak French?
 CM> And who says French is better than English?
 CM> Bienvenue de Hamilton Ontario Canada (ou on parle anglais pour la
 CM> plupart, mais des gens eclaires connaissent le francais aussi!)

        I'm not going to write in English... I think you've understood...
        :)))


[]s ßy :

╔══════════════┐
║ Pedro Vieira ├──-> »» Junt BBS SysOp ≈ [phone] [23/07h.] ««
╚──────────────┘                        (4:802/13)

... If you hear an onion ring, please answer it.
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From: CARLOS PISANI                          Number: 14438
  To: RODOLFO VAZ                              Date: 02/16/94  9:16a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-=≡[ Quotando Rodolfo Vaz para Carlos Pisani ]≡=-

 Oi!

 CP> The name for FREQ is CCI.ZIP?

 RV> Yes, CCI.ZIP is the name for FREQ. You can still use the magic
 RV> name CCI. I've had some problems with my modem due to the storms that
 RV> happens in Brasilia from December to February.
 RV> Two modems (USR sportster) have burned :-((( and my BBS has
 RV> not been running for two weeks. But it will be O.K. right now ...

Ok...As soon as I can I'll make the FREQ!THANX!

 []'s

-=≡[ InFoBsEsSiOn SysOp ]≡=-


... Drugs, for what???I have a XT with CGA monitor!
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From: FRANCISCO ABREU                        Number: 14439
  To: CARL WILSON                              Date: 02/17/94 10:51p
Subj: Astronomy ShareWare CD-ROM              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CW> I'm looking for a CD-ROM of Astronomy software.  BBS ready
 CW> preferable, but not required.

                                     If you find a good one, please
                                     let me know. I like very much the
                                     subject and I am also looking for
                                     a good shareware disk.

                                     --> Chico


 CW> ... Some days I feel like roadkill on the Information Superhighway!
 CW> -!- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
 CW>  ! Origin: Home of The Lawton Astronomical Society  [phone]
 CW> (1:385/18)



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From: PAUL A GIGL JR                         Number: 14440
  To: SCOTT WEEMS                              Date: 02/17/94  6:51p
Subj: Computer & Hardware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you supply more information on the Maxtor hard drives?

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From: DOUG SCHWANTES                         Number: 14441
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94 10:54p
Subj: GENOA and SONY Support                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I am considering purchasing a new system with the following peripherals
 and would like to know if there s OS/2 drivers for these products. The video
card is a Genoa "Phantom" ET-4000 W32p PCI SVGA card with 2megs Ram.
The CD-ROM is a SONY 33A-03 2x drive. All comments on these peripherals
are gratefully appreciated.



    -=Doug=-

... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!"  - Bart Simpson
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From: DAVE LYLE                              Number: 14442
  To: RON BRUMLOW                              Date: 02/17/94 11:58p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RB> >CompUSA has it on sale here locally for $99
RB> >

RB>CompUSA's "sales" price leaves a lot to be desired then since that has been
RB>MicroSoft's full retail on the '94 update has been $99 US as an interductory

Local CompUSA and Egghead both carrying it here for $79.


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From: DAVE LYLE                              Number: 14443
  To: BOB DUNN                                 Date: 02/18/94 12:03a
Subj: Music Through Speakers?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BD>I have a Mitsumi Doublespeed CD-ROM with a Sound Galaxy 16 sound
BD>card. Does anyone know what I can do to get a music CD to play
BD>through the soundcard and speakers, and not just the headphone

Does this sound card have a 'line in' jack?  If so, go down to your
local Radio Shack store and pick up an adapter cable....
1/8" stereo plug to dual RCA plugs.  (I think the RS number on this
is 42-2475).  Plug the RCA's into the back of the CD-ROM interface
card, and the 1/8" jack into the 'line in' of the sound card.


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From: TERRY BALSEWICZ                        Number: 14444
  To: OWEN WINTERS                             Date: 02/19/94  9:49a
Subj: Adult CD ROMs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We have a great selection of ADULT CD-ROMS on our BBS. All the latest and some
of the best prices in the country.  STARCOM BBS 414-541-9362.   or call us on
our voice line and we will send you a catalog 414-541-9891.

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From: TERRY BALSEWICZ                        Number: 14445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 10:04a
Subj: CD-ROM catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If anyone is interested in adult CD-ROMS give STARCOM BBS a call at
414-541-9362. If you would like a catalog or place an order call our business
at 414-541-9891. We sell all types of CD's, it just seems most people want the
adult stuff.     Terry B.     STARCOM BBS  414-541-9362

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From: JIM LOHR                               Number: 14446
  To: DENNIS COLEMAN                           Date: 02/19/94  2:22p
Subj: 1994 cd catalog                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>Well finally the 1994 CD catalogue is now ready for
DC>everyone asks for a copy to be posted to them on 720k
DC>floppy disks.
DC>leave your address here for a copy

Please send a floppy based catalog to
J.A. Lohr
1905 Valley Forge Rd
Lansdale, PA 19446
or E-Mail to:  [e-mail]

Thanks,
Jim Lohr






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From: BRIAN WOODBURY                         Number: 14447
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94 11:25a
Subj: problem w/7th guest                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Running 7th guest on 486-33dx w/local bus video. Tested drive as single speed
and set video at SVGA. When playing game, and during motion video w/sound, get
distracting chopping noise. It said in book that sound is not catching up to
graphics could be slow drive and to set to mcga instead of SVGA. Works fine
there except lower res pics.
So i upgraded to double speed drive,and while the noise is still there, it's a
little better. Any one else run into this?
brian

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 14448
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94  8:03p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are the
windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon, I do not
think these will last very long!!!!!!!



Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: LESLIE PARKER                          Number: 14449
  To: SCOTT PARKS                              Date: 02/18/94  1:13p
Subj: Project Guttenberg                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 23 Dec 93, Scott Parks stated to All:

SP>The Oxford Text Library seems to be not the same as Project Guttenb
SP>so if anyone has information on obtaining either/both of these coll
SP>on CD it would be greatly appreciated.
SP>
SP>
SP>--- GEcho 1.01+
SP> * Origin:  VIA - helix.eskimo.com - seattle - [phone]  (1:34
SP>

I know this is late, but I just discovered Starvector Software in Yakima
WA has Project Guttenberg for $18.40. Their number is 509-457-2892.

Hope this helps,

Les


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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 14450
  To: AUSTRALIANS                              Date: 02/18/94  3:19a
Subj: Night Owl 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Night Owl 11 .... $48  +  $4 Overnight Express Delivery

SYSOP SPECIAL ... $49.50 including Overnight Express Delivery (Australia)

Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
Voice/Fax:[phone]   BBS:(043) 23-9076   Fido: 3:711/440
         VISA * MASTERCARD * BANKCARD * COD * CHEQUE

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From: MARK BRACKEN                           Number: 14451
  To: WES MATTHEWS                             Date: 02/17/94 10:06p
Subj: Problem With RTZ                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Wes,
       Thanks for the tip it seems to work with the sounddriver not in high
(patch??)
regards,
Mark

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From: EUGENE CHAN                            Number: 14452
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  2:55a
Subj: Iron Helix HELP                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gadday All...

I'm in desperate need of help from this frustrating game. I've obtained the 3
samples of DNA, but, now what are you supposed to do? I know, I know......You
must think "you're only at the beginning!!!", but hey, I was never a good
person to solve things anyway. Any help would be much appreciated!

Eugene.

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From: NOEL CRANSWICK                         Number: 14453
  To: PIETROPAOLO BIANCHI                      Date: 02/15/94 10:35a
Subj: Medical & Scientific Cdr                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

While looking for the meaning of life, David Hill said thus to Pietropaolo
Bianchi
 PB> Hi all. I am trying to locate CD ROM titles relating to the
 PB> following fields:
 PB>
 PB> - Medicine (professional level) (all branches, including
 PB> bibliographies) - Chemistry and Biochemistry.

G'day Pietropaolo,
                I have 4 CD-ROMS with medical journals. They include "The
New England Journal of Medicine" and 3 paediatric journals. Many other
titles are available including several versions of Medline and other
Medical databases. I'm in Australia and I get my copies through a journal
subscription company. Most of these CD's are published in the USA and are
probably readily accessable.

Hope this helps,

Noel

... Jean-Luc and Beverly Picard - together forever.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: NOEL CRANSWICK                         Number: 14454
  To: BERT PATTERSON                           Date: 02/15/94 10:40a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

While looking for the meaning of life, Bert Patterson said thus to Brice
Fleckenstein
 BP> Yes Victoria is a state of Australia, where the kangaroos jump down
 BP> the main street and mechanics still fix horse and carts.

 BP> No, No, only kidding, but I bet a lot of Americans still don't know
 BP> where Australia is ,or anything about it.

 BP> Cheers,
 BP> Bert

Isn't Australia next to Germany?? ;-}
Noel???

... Everything goes wrong all at once.
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From: JOHN CHAN                              Number: 14455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/15/94 10:08p
Subj: CD-ROM Cache !!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To All,



         l would like to know why CD Speedway and Norton Speed cache
         slows the CD-ROM down ????

Also Smartdrive v5.0 doesn't seem to speed up things verymuch !!!

Please help !!!
Any suggestion ????

Seeya
John
___
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From: NOEL CRASKE                            Number: 14456
  To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                   Date: 02/18/94 10:22a
Subj: Rebel Assult                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

William,
  I noticed you posted a "Rebel Assult Cheat" on Jan 29th. I must be
doing something wrong as I cannot make it work. Could you clarify
a few points please.

1. With the joy stick movement does "up" mean push forward (away from you) or
does it mean pull towards you as this would make the plane go up.

2. Exactly when is the manouver performed with the stick?
   - at the first sign of the logo
   - when it is stationary in the centre of the screen
   - when the background fades???

   - does the numlock setting matter?

Assistance much appreciated.

  thanks
     Noel Craske


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From: SAM LAMBROPOULOS                       Number: 14457
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  1:11p
Subj: MSCDEX /m?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am using MSCDEX that came with dos 6.2 and was
wondering what the minimum and maximum number of sector
buffers is available using the following parameters.

MSCDEX /m:number
       ^^^^^^^^^

Any information would be greatfully appreciated.

Regards Sam



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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14458
  To: JUSTIN TURY                              Date: 02/15/94 10:58p
Subj: Re: t7g                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-=> JT to ALL...

 JT> Has anyone solved the Bishop puzzle on the floor in front of that one
 JT> bed?

Yep, but it took ages... didn't like that puzzle at all! :)

 JT> Also, the rug in the same room has a map of the basement maze in it!
 JT> There are two arrows, and they are close together, if that helps any.

Get a copy of it, or record the movements neccessary to get out...
finished the game a wekk or three ago, it's cool!

-T-

... 'Cause I'm a Borg, yea, yea, yea.
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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 14459
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/16/94  6:16a
Subj: For Sale - Second hand computer equipment from BBS  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

    I have some equipment from the BBS that i want to sell.

1/ External CDRom drive, case and cards. $400
   inludes 6 CD trays, also willing to sell a couple of cd's
   cheap as part of the deal.

or make me an offer. Please reply here.


Denis

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From: PETER BRYCE                            Number: 14460
  To: JOHN FONHOF                              Date: 02/16/94  3:26p
Subj: Importing CD's to Oz                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > > Can anybody tell me what the current situation is with importing CD's > >
from
 > > overseas into Australia for private use.
 > Peter there is no duty or salestax on computer software .
 > Just make sure you
 > classify it as computer software .

Hi John. Hmmm that's interesting. (see my reply to Don Weir on this same
message thread).
But can they hit you for the duty on the actual software media? (ie.
disks/CD's).
......seeyalater.

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From: DAVE HOLOHAN                           Number: 14461
  To: MATT DELCO                               Date: 02/18/94 10:47p
Subj: Cd-Rom Changer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Depends on the brand.  A lot of changers assign each CD a
 > drive letter.
 > Then when you access that drive, the CD changer automatically
 > loads that
 > CD.  It its a 6 CD changer, you'll have 6 CD-ROM drives (in a
 > sense.)

Is this done from the TSR driver that's loaded, or is
this all accomplished by the Door program that's using
the CD changer on the bbs?

I'm looking into the Pioneer changer, but didn't know
there were other models. Who are the manufactureres
that make changers?

Thanks again in advance...

-=Dave=-

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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 14462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94  1:15a
Subj: Dr. Windows Users                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Attn "Dr. Windows" users!

Hate the dos-based file browser?  Use the utility I created!  DRWINVW.ZIP!

Should be FREQABLE from the BBS in my origin line.

Freeware!



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.10 # 153 *
... I shot the Moderator, But I did not shoot the Sysop.
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From: JASON CHANCELLOR                       Number: 14463
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94 12:37a
Subj: CD-Rom Recording                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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       100 - 300 megs   : $145               11 and Up          : CALL
       300 - 650 megs   : $199

                           ** Sysop's SPECIAL **
                         -------------------------
                            0 - 650 megs : $125
                      Please Include Board and Number

               Data accepted in QIC-40 and QIC-80 tape formats.
            We also accept floppies but please call before sending.

   *  2 Day Shipping included with all orders - call for priority service *
      *  Our Professional staff has a 2 day turnaround on most CD orders *

 Why have a custom CD-Rom created for yourself?
     * Unprecedented error correction which makes CDs practically
          indestructible.
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          360k disks.
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  Please send Check or Money order payable to CD Technology to :

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  If you have any questions please call CD Technology at :
       (214) 578 - 6390   (Call 24 Hours a day)
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From: NINA IRWIN                             Number: 14464
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 02/18/94 10:52p
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> >Joe, could you enlighten those of us that are novices, as to the dif
-> >between SCSI and IDE interfaces for CD-ROM devices?
->
->  There is no such thing as a CD-ROM drive with an IDE compatable inte

The Sony single and double speed and the Mitsumi CD's are all IDE
interface Cd's.  I am presently running a Mitsumi CD in a 386-40 using
an IDE interface and it is working just fine on my BBS.  I am not using
a sound card as the BBS is in my bedroom and I don't want to hear it a
3 AM (grin).
 ■ TNet 3.90 ≈ INFOQUEST BBS [phone]


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From: DENIS SHANAHAN                         Number: 14465
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/18/94  6:53p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Pedro!....


PV>        Yes, it does. Thank's a lot, Denis.
PV>        But I want something to CONTROL Mitsumi CD-ROM, to throw away this
PV>        Mitsumi board.

I don't think that you can do that... Mitsumi interface is propietary,
so no other card (that I know of) will work....

*-=Denis

 * OLX 2.1 TD * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: ROBERT HARE                            Number: 14466
  To: STEVEN JONES                             Date: 02/18/94  8:21a
Subj: Re: cdu33a cdrom drivers                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well steve...
You can get the drivers you need from Sony's BBS the drivers are on there...if
you need the numbber reply here and i'll get it to you ....I may even have
those drivers around the board if i look for them later i will pos another
mesage to you and put them on hold for you to pick up...the driver in dos 6 and
windows3.1 does work with it bbut that is only part you also need the Device
drive...such as SONY_CDU.sys this tell MSCDEX.exe that you have a SONY CDU
Drive...and know how to handle it ...and you shouldn't loose your 5 1/4 drive
unless it is internal then you need to get a dual drive that fits in one slot
and has both 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 drives in it unless you have one of those wierd
cpu cases that only has one 5 1/4 then you may want to think about get a
external case for one of the 2 drives....Hope this helps...
i found the number for SONY BBS (1-(408)-955-5107) hopes this helps too...
see you around bye....

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From: JOE SITKO                              Number: 14467
  To: CARL BENSON                              Date: 02/18/94  9:15p
Subj: Mitsumi 2x &SB Pro                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Carl Benson wrote 
 ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
▀▄█ > I have a Soundblaster Pro along with the Mitsumi
▀▄█ > double speed CD Rom
▀▄█ > drive.  Everything works well when I'm playing
▀▄█ > computer CD games, but I
▀▄█ > can't play audio CD's through it.  Everything seems to
▀▄█ > be working....but
▀▄█ > no sound.
▀▄█Well, try my solution..hook a cable between the CD-ROM phones output jack
▀▄█into the SoundBlaster Pro Line in..that works for me. Didn't you get a
▀▄█controller card with your Mitsumi?

   Yes I got a controller card.

   Thanks for the suggestion, but your solution seems a bit too messy.
   I have since learned that I needed to perform a simple re-pin on the
   audio cable and everything would work OK!

 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

Later.............
           Joe Sitko on Friday, 02/18/94 21:15:18
                          [e-mail]
 ■ TLX 3.40 ■ Sometimes you're a bug, sometimes a windsheild


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From: OKTAVIAN FLORYSIAK                     Number: 14468
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  7:02p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello, I just got 7th guest and i have a video problem! I get a messed up start
up menu and when i play a puzzle i get the same problem! I only have a vga
card/monitor and what i think the problem is, is that i need a multisync
monitor which i don't have! Oh the rest of the game runs fine! If you know
anything about this please help me out! Opps forgot something, i have a ahead b
vga card which 7th Guest finds and should support!
Thanks In Advance!

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From: TOM MUCHA                              Number: 14469
  To: TRANE FRANCKS                            Date: 02/18/94  5:14p
Subj: ]                                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 TF> Was a piece o' cake. I have an LU005s installed with OS/2 2.1GA.
 TF> All you need to do is grab a copy of the November release of
 TF> MITFX.ZIP. It has the install procedure in a text doc along with
 TF> the necessary driver.

 TF> Took more time to put in the drive itself. Getting it up and
 TF> running in OS/2 was no big deal. ;-)

   Do you know if it'll work with the OS/2 for Windows CD-ROM Upgrade?
   Cause I have the MITFX.zip and I want to make sure that it will work.


                                                            Tom


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From: TOM MUCHA                              Number: 14470
  To: TRANE FRANCKS                            Date: 02/18/94  5:18p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Single Speed & OS/2 2.1!!   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TF> Was a piece o' cake. I have an LU005s installed with OS/2 2.1GA.
 TF> All you need to do is grab a copy of the November release of
 TF> MITFX.ZIP. It has the install procedure in a text doc along with
 TF> the necessary driver.

 TF> Took more time to put in the drive itself. Getting it up and
 TF> running in OS/2 was no big deal. ;-)

   Do you know if it'll work with the OS/2 for Windows UPGRADE CD-ROM?
  Cause I have the driver and I wanna make sure that it works.

                                                          Tom


... My other computer is a Borg.
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From: GEORGE BARONE                          Number: 14471
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 02/18/94 11:58p
Subj: The Animals CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > * in a message to All <14 Feb 94 04:25> George Barone wrote:

 > GB> I just purchased The Animals CD-Rom & it will not run due to my
 > GB> video card not having a driver for 256 Color. The video card will
 > GB> support 256 Color & 1 MB Ram. The problem is - the card is old &
 > GB> it didn't come with drivers for Win 3.1 (3.0 was the current
 > GB> release it supports) & there is no manufacturer or tech support #
 > GB> in the manual. The card is an ULTRA VGA ADAPTER, based on the
 > GB> TSENG 4000 chip. Does anyone know a BBS that I can D/L a TSENG
 > GB> 4000 driver for Windows 3.1 256 color. I don't have a compuserve ID..
 > GB> Any help would be appreciated.

 > George,
 >    If you don't get any help from this, get back to me. I
 > could put these drivers on a floppy and mail them to you if
 > it comes down to that.
 >    I don't know of any specific BBS that has them, but I do
 > have them on a CD-ROM here.
 >    Leave me your address if you want this disk, and I'll send
 > it out.

 > ---
 >  * Origin: Oh no! My tagline is umop apisdn! 73 de N9LHF (RA
 > 1:2270/233.30)
Ray, thanks for the offer, i picked up the drivers from a local sysop & I am
all set. Thanks anyway.

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From: BOB BROCK                              Number: 14472
  To: DAVE DZURIS                              Date: 02/18/94  5:53p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELP Please, Anyone or Dave Dzuris can i get some Help getting a Toshiba CDROM
Drive to run model XM3301BME SCSI It just keeps saying bad or missing
IBMCDROM.SYS Can anyone give me some clues, or a number where i might be able
to Dload another IBMCDROM.SYS. I Would greatly appreciate any/all HELP
especially from you DAVE DZURIS i lost your number so i can't call you direct!
Thanks if anyone has info Please respond here or directly to 1:273/926 and
Dave if you read this CALL ME ASAP 215/425-9144
 ...Bob...

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From: NATHAN LEWIS                           Number: 14473
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 12:52p
Subj: Want an External Cd-rom                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all.
I found a good deal here in town (Neenah, WI (54956)) for an external
CD-rom.  They said they'd order it and sell it to me for $305.  If
anybody can offer me a better deal (New cd-rom 330ms access time
external, with card, no caddy, no software, under $305 with shipping) contact
me.  I'll buy it.  I don't care who makes it.  Just write me a message
Thanks
Nathan Lewis

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From: JEFF PATTEN                            Number: 14474
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 02/19/94  7:34p
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


BF>>  There  is  no  such  thing  as  a  CD-ROM  drive  with  an
BF>> IDE compatable interface.

 TB>  There will be soon.    See "Inside Track"  by John  C.
 TB> Dvorak...  Pc Mag Vol 13  #3  page 95...

    I wouldn't hold my breath -- CD support is part of the ATA-3 spec, and the
ATA-2 spec hasn't even been passed yet.  OTOH, that won't stop anyone from
producing them -- the SCSI-2 spec was passed just Jan 14 of this year... ;-)

Jeff

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From: JERRY THOMSON                          Number: 14475
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/19/94  9:24p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hi Mike,

    I ordered that Busty Babes from you and didn't know it had so much
shareware programs, ie; utilities etc.  Also, the quality of the scans were
quite poor of the gifs on the disk.  I would like to return it for an exchange,
but need a little help from you or any user that might know if the CD you have
called Sizzel or something like that with adult gifs have better quality scans
without other non related utilites and such?  I run a BBS and this Busty Babes
has the worst technical scans of any of the adult gifs I carry.  Not talking
about how xx they are, but just the scan quality.  I carry about 4 megs of
adult gifs including Hot Pix and all of them are pretty good scan quality.
    Just want to keep the quality up to par.  I'm a little embarassed to put
this Busty Babes online as it is so disapointing.

Thanks,
         Jerry

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From: CARL BENSON                            Number: 14476
  To: JASON SUTTLE                             Date: 02/20/94  5:30p
Subj: The 11th Hour                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Does anyone know if Trilobyte/Virgin Games has
 > released "The 11th Hour" yet? Just curious.  Am
 > wanting to test out my new 2x drive.

 > Jason

It should come this spring, but it isn't out yet..

// Calle

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From: JAMES NERLINGER                        Number: 14477
  To: RON KRAMER                               Date: 02/21/94  3:05a
Subj: Zork/Encart/Comptons/SBPRO and chatter  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RK> I also have a Comptons MM encyclopedia to sell (have
 RK> two copies of it) and Encarta and like them both, but I
 RK> don`t need to Comptons CDs... make me an offer and its
 RK> yours.

I'd be interested in the Compton's, but I'm in school and tight on cash -- how
low would you be willing to go?

On a side note...what's Lawnmower Man like?  I've heard mixed reviews on it so
far.

James.

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From: JAMES NERLINGER                        Number: 14478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  3:07a
Subj: Items to trade for CD ROM Games.        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following items for sale/trade.  I'd reall be interested in getting
some decent CD ROM games (one or more for the higher priced items).  I know the
items I have for sale/trade aren't CD ROM items, but since I'm interested in
trading for CD ROM software, I hope this can loosely be deemed "on topic."

SeaGate ST3120A 100M IDE Hard Drive..........................$135.00
Conner CP3044 40M IDE Hard Drive.............................$ 75.00
Generic 2400 Baud Internal Modem
    With 96/48 Send/Receive Fax & BitFax Software............$ 65.00
Generic 2400 Baud Internal Modem
    (This one is SUPPOSED to be a fax/modem, it even came
     with fax software, but the manual doesn't say
     anything about fax capabilities and I haven't
     had time to test it)....................................$ 50.00
Sound Blaster MIDI Kit.......................................$ 15.00
Suncom Command Control Gamepad...............................$ 25.00

Software:

Mean Streets.................................................$ 10.00

All items shipped COD, you pay shipping and COD costs.

James.

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From: RON COOK                               Number: 14479
  To: *                                        Date: 02/21/94  3:22a
Subj: Philip CM 205 driver                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know where I can get the OS/2 driver for a Philip CM 205 CD-ROM?

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From: DOUG WILSON                            Number: 14480
  To: LOUIS MAYS                               Date: 02/19/94 12:00p
Subj: encyclopedia on CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

At 21:46 on 02-07-94 LOUIS MAYS spake unto STEVE MANN saying ...

LM>Yes, I also agree that the Grolier's Multimedia CD-ROM set is the
LM>best on the market. We use it in our college library and it is
LM>extremely popular.

Have you seen/used Microsoft's Encarta?  I am about to buy an
encyclopedia, and I am curious as to which one you prefer and why.  All
the mag reviews have been raving about Encarta, but this may be the
typical MS-euphoria that fills the editorials which are paid for by MS
advertising dollars.

What do you like about Grolier's?  What do you dislike?  I appreciate
any information as I am just starting out on my CD-ROM collection.
Thanks in advance!

$e[37;44m*$e[31;47m**$e[0m $p$g  12:00 02/19/94
    Doug Wilson
    CIS  71055,1117
    Fido 1:124/2206
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From: DOUG WILSON                            Number: 14481
  To: JERRY THOMSON                            Date: 02/19/94 12:08p
Subj: Re: HELP                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

At 18:39 on 01-30-94 JERRY THOMSON spake unto DAVID HILL saying ...

JT>        OEM, mean Origional Equiptment Manufacturer.  Nothing to do
JT>with something be ommitted.  MPC is a standard set forth that assures
JT>most CDROM disks will run on most CD drives sold in the USA.  I
JT>forget exactly what the MPC means, but it's sort of a standard like
JT>110 volts as opposed to say 240volts in Europe..

Multimedia Personal Computer (MPC) is the alleged baseline requirement
for running "multimedia" applications (whatever those are).  <g>

$e[37;44m*$e[31;47m**$e[0m $p$g  12:08 02/19/94
    Doug Wilson
    CIS  71055,1117
    Fido 1:124/2206
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From: PAUL HARDY                             Number: 14482
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 11:35a
Subj: 7th Guest & Cirrus chipse               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm trying to get 7th Guest to run on my TI notebook with Cirrus video
chipset, with no luck whatsoever. It locks up before accessing the first
screen when I install for SVGA. It does run in MCGA, but the screen
stays blank, so that's not much use, either!

I've noticed several programs don't like the Cirrus chipset. I've tried
the 1.3 and 1.4 Vesa drivers sp far, and I can't find any others apart
from 1.0. Interestingly, the 1.0 driver won't load because it says I
*don't* have a Cirrus chipset.

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From: TRANE FRANCKS                          Number: 14483
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 02/20/94 11:35a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 a lawsuits                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Dave Reed to Evan Lim <=-
 -=> About NIGHT OWL 11 a lawsuits, on 14 Feb 94  18:06 <=-

 DR> You happen to be entering your message from one of the states where
 DR> you can be "gotten" for making such files available for download on
 DR> your BBS.  That's the whole point of this thread:  Night Owl Publisher
 DR> is potentially opening up MANY sysops to litigation that MOST of us
 DR> sysops cannot afford.

Aw, come on... You know as well as I do that *IF* you got caught,
you'd get asked to fix the problem. So, you fix it and the
trouble goes away. You wouldn't even need to call a lawyer.

Until the time comes (which for 99.999999% would be NEVER), you
don't worry about it and just continue offering what you want to
offer. No point in worrying about it. Everybody knows that sysops
are broke anyway.<Big Grin>

... "Press to test"  <click>  "Release to detonate"
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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 14484
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 02/20/94  1:19p
Subj: JUKEBOXS                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM>Well, I am under the impression that Panasonic as well as some other makers,
TM>have both proprietary AT bus setups (that either daily chain or don't,
TM>depending on the design) as well as SCSI setups....

Some have their own proprietary card but scsi devices such as the DRM600
(Older Model Drive) don't have a card as they connect to another scsi
device such as a controller card or to another hard drive. Which I'm
sure you already knew.

TM> >chaining and yes panasonic does make minichangers (at least thats
TM> > what TM> > we (those that have em) call em).

TM>Is a "minichanger" a "Jukebox" that handles multiple cd-rom disks on a singl
TM>cd-rom drive without physical intervention?  (Which is where the term Jukebo
TM>creap in from, I think).  What model number is it?  How much is it's street
TM>price?  How many disks per changer does it handle?  I have an on going inter
TM>in cd-rom Jukeboxs.... hence the questions...

Surely you jest, seen too many response from you to others regarding
those questions above about cdrom minichangers aka "jukeboxes".

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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 14485
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 02/20/94  1:19p
Subj: CD-ROM CHANGER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM> > Does anyone know how to set up a CD-ROM changer for
TM> > operation on a BBS? If there is any additional software/TSR
TM> > or DOOR that needs to do something special?
TM> > What about handling having to change out for requests
TM> > for files on different CD's?

TM>For a single line bbs it is no big deal.  Just get a cd-rom door that suppor
TM>a cd-rom changer.  For a multi-line bbs, you usually have to setup a "cd-rom
TM>server across a LAN and have the access via some kind of non-directly couple
TM>filetransfer program.   (eg. the program on the bbs sends a message requesti
TM>a file and the cd-rom server finds the file and copys it onto HD where the b
TM>can download it).  Since the responses don't depend on dos i/o routines that
TM>will pause the whole bbs if a changer is connected to it....

TM>                                Tom

TM>--- FLAME v1.0
TM> * Origin: Lawrence OnLine/TBBS 4 lines and 16 CD's (1:299/102)

If you say so, but it isn't any deal at all if you tell the bbs that the
files you scanned in are located on a cdrom (strictly speaking of
wildcat bbs software of course) regardless if single node or multinode
(I run novell netware lite on my system).


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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 14486
  To: CARLOS PISANI                            Date: 02/20/94  1:19p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW S                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CP>-==[ Quotando Mike Shannon para Carlos Pisani ]==-

CP> Hi!

CP> IGNORE THE LAST MESSAGE THAT I SEND YOU!
CP> IGNORE THE LAST MESSAGE THAT I SEND YOU!
CP> IGNORE THE LAST MESSAGE THAT I SEND YOU!

CP> CP:>Do you have a CD called SoftwareVAULT?

CP> MS> Yes, we carry all 6 of them:  Software Vault 1 @ $12.80, Software
CP> MS> Vault 2 @ $12.80, Software Vault Gold @ $19.90, Software Vault Platinum
CP> MS> @ $19.90, Software Vault Games @ $20, and Software Vault Windows @ $20.
CP> MS> All are in stock at present.

CP>I'll buy the Night Owls 11 + Cream of the Crop II and Software Vault
CP>Platinum.The number of my father's AMEX credit card (I'm fifteen!) is
CP>3764 303560 92028 and the name is Luiz Carlos Pisani.Please, send it
CP>with INSURED airmail...My address is:
CP>350, Comendador Alfredo Munhoz - Curitiba, Pr - Brazil

CP>THANX!!!

CP>ps.Sorry for my English, I know that's so bad :)

CP> []s,

CP>-==[ InFoBsEsSiOn SysOp ]==-

CP>... Press F13 to continue...
CP>--- FMail 0.96G
CP> * Origin: [041]264-8595 <-InFoBsEsSiOn-> 20:00/7:00 14.4k (4:804/11)

Should never post a credit card number where everybody could see it,
libel to find lot more charged to the card than you authorized or at
least your dad would.

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 14487
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  9:19a
Subj: I'm here...                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello everybody,

I'm still alive.  I went back to Ellis Enterprises and have recently put
out a new sales flier - CD-ROMs from $6.00.  Please call 800-729-9500 to
get the latest flier and catalog.  My FAX number is 405-751-5168...
Overseas people call 405-749-0273... The catalog has over 2 pages of
CD-ROMs for less than $15.00.  Be sure to mention this echo.

Yall behave don't miss me too much... Thanks ;)

Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: JOE SITKO                              Number: 14488
  To: MARK AUGUSTYN                            Date: 02/20/94  7:50a
Subj: Mitsumi 2x &SB Pro                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Mark Augustyn wrote 
 x===============================x
MA> > JS>I used to have a regular soundblaster and a Mitsumi single speed dri
MA> > JS>and I remember I had to repin the audio cable, must I do this also t
MA> > JS>the new drive and soundcard?
MA>
MA> > Yup.  Ground and sound reversed.
MA>
MA>How do I know which two those are?
 x===============================x
Mark,

The wires are in the plastic connector, thusly:

                1-2-3-4
Repin, thusly:

                4-3-2-1

In other words, just REVERSE all 4 wires.

Hope this helps!

Later.......
           Joe Sitko on Sunday, 02/20/94 07:50:44
                          [e-mail]
... Fahrvergnükie: (n) Sex in a Volkswagen.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14489
  To: JOSH ADLER                               Date: 02/21/94  1:13a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 11 Feb 94 05:14pm, Josh Adler wrote to Boris Osadciw:

BO >> Our US Mailing Address is: Consumer's Club International ( will soon
BO >> change )

>>    How much in $US for Nightowl 11 including postage to
>>    Australia? Please include your new address if you know it.

Josh, our price on the current version of Night Owl 11. is $26., as to
the shipping cost, you'd add another $5. to it.

Our current mailing address is:
                                Consumer's Club International
                                3092 Holly Dr
                                Brunswick, Ohio 44212
                                FAX - 216-225-6759
                                Voice - 216-225-3263
                                Fidonet address 1:157/46


Hope this helps....


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14490
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:13a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11.                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 4,500 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $26.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $45.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14491
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:13a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

600MB's+, 4700+ files,  BRAND NEW RELEASE - 1993 - 1994  November - January.

Thousands of the most recent shareware programs and resources available from
around the world.  Includes a user friendly Software Vault Librarian that will
help you find and use what you need easily and quickly. (Games. Sounds, Sound
Blaster & MIDI, Graphics, MultiMedia, Word Processing, Fonts & Clip Art,
Pictures & GIFs, Spreadsheets, Educational, Database, Ham Radio Utilities, LAN
Utilities, BBS Utilities, and many more.)
                    SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM - $18.00
    ORDERS ONLY!! 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:13a
Subj: NEW PIONEER                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

))))))))))))))))))))) A L L  N E W  P I O N E E R  6 0 2 X (((((((((((((((((((
                        Double Speed  -  6 - Disk Changer

  300 ms Average Access Time  -  307 Kbs Data Transfer Rate - 256 KB Buffer
  Multi-Session Support       -  2048/512 Byte Selectable   - SCSI-2
  Complete with Manuals, Audio Cable, Power Cord, Magazine and Software.

   IN STOCK                   PRICE - $845.00                IN STOCK
        MULTIPUL UNIT PURCHASE DISCOUNT - SAME PRICE CASH OR CHARGE
     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517  TECH/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 14493
  To: FRANK WHEELER                            Date: 02/21/94  6:59a
Subj: Pioneer 6 Disk Changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FW>Pioneer CD-ROM 6 Disk Changer, DRM-600 for sale. With card. $750.00 or best
FW>offer. Call 716-621-3642 or leave message on FidoNet # 1:2613/343. Will ship
FW>U.P.S. C.O.D. 6 shreware CD's included, 2 are adult. Call for more informati

FW>Frank

FW>--- GoldED 2.42.G1219
FW> * Origin: The Sports Page Boards Node 1 716-581-1636 (1:2613/343)

How about $450 without the card, I can get em new for $600. I'll pay
shipping.

 * QMPro 1.01 93-0852 * The Police Station BBS 615-865-4030/868-8080 Nashville,


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14494
  To: CARLOS PISANI                            Date: 02/20/94 12:00a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CP:>I'll buy the Night Owls 11 + Cream of the Crop II and Software Vault
CP:>Platinum.The number of my father's AMEX credit card (I'm fifteen!) is
CP:>xxxx xxxxxx xxxxx and the name

Carlos,

Thank you for the order, but it was not wise of you to post your father's
American Express card on an international echo like this one.  I would
advise you to notify him immediately what you just did, so that he can
cancel his Amex card to prevent any fraud that might now take place as
a result of his number being exposed to thousands of people.

.\\ike


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14495
  To: WONG THOMAS                              Date: 02/20/94 12:01a
Subj: PRE-ORDER PIER 4!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT:>TB:>MS > PIER 4 * What WILL be the hottest new shareware CD of
WT:>TB:>MS >1994..........$29.00
WT:>TB:>MS > STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *

WT:>             I'm interested in getting Pier 4 (when it's released) for my
WT:>    board. Do you ship to Calgary, AB, Canada and what would be the total
WT:>    after shipping (in US$) via UPS? Also, do you carry Top Drawer, if you
WT:>    do... I might very well order both off you cuz they haven't been seen
WT:>    anywhere here yet! Thanks

We can ship to Canada by insured airmail for $6 shipping.  Don't carry Top
Drawer, but we do sell the Software Vault Platinum at $19.90, which even
has some 1994 files on it.  Just as good as Top Drawer from what I've
heard.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline will self-destruct in 5-million nanoseconds.

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From: RICK SAMUELS                           Number: 14496
  To: ROGER GILER                              Date: 02/20/94  2:39a
Subj: NEC-3Xi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

18 Feb 94, Roger Giler writes to All:

 RG> I have had a 3Xi since they came out and am using an UltraStor SCSI 24F
 RG> controller.  The CD-ROM came without a driver. I am using it with a
 RG> Gateway 486DX33 EISA.

 RG> Any words of advice? Comments? Insults?

I've got one which works just fine with an Adaptec 2842 using the Adaptec ASPI
drivers.  I've also tried it with an Adaptec 1542b with the Adaptec ASPI
drivers and a Future Domain 850 with the Corel drivers.  You'll need the ASPI
driver for the UltraStor, which can be downloaded from the Ultrastor BBS and
the Corel driver should work just fine.  Check the NEC BBS to see if they have
an ASPI driver for the drive.

Rick Samuels

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From: ALEX MOTTRAM                           Number: 14497
  To: MIKE CHARETTE                            Date: 02/20/94 11:42p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

+-
| I downloaded a help file from black Sinister, but wouldnt't you know it
| the guy doesn't have this one documented. He states he had to solve this
| onr through brute force..sorry. But I am having a real time trying to
| solve the microscope where they mutate..any suggestions.
+-[MC=>AM]

I consider myself to be "quite good" at Attax, the arcade game that the
microscope is based on.  After about 50 tries, some of which came within
1 space of me winning, I hint-booked past it.  The rest were simple after
that.  Still have my game saved at the microscope in case I get a year or
so off of work to try it again <g>..  The _ONE_ thing that makes it near
impossible is the fact that YOU always move first.  In this game, it puts
you at a disadvantage.

Good Luck!

Alex Mottram

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From: TIM VALIS                              Number: 14498
  To: ROBERT HANAN                             Date: 02/21/94  3:45p
Subj: Re: Ms-books internal error             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you have a Mitsumi CD rom drive? If you do, here's what might be
happening... See, the Mitsumi can only read just over 500 megs of info.
Bookshelf contains much more than that...

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From: RON ORNSTEDT                           Number: 14499
  To: MARC YOUNG                               Date: 02/21/94  4:31p
Subj: CD-ROM Upgrading Tips an                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have heard tell that the 3x are still slower than the Toshiba
 > 2x in
 > practice, especially as software is unlkikely to be written with
 > 3x or
 > 4x in mind until the price significantly drops. Can anyone who
 > owns a
 > Tosh drive confirm this??


PC-mag has a review of CD-Rom drives in it's current issue, you should browse
it.  The two drives times are basically the same.  But, there isn't anything
out there which utilizes the 3X speed.  When software does, the NEC will be
somewhat faster.  NEC is also coming out with a 4X drive in the near future.

Ron

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From: BILL MOSNER                            Number: 14500
  To: LEN GLADSTONE                            Date: 02/20/94 11:18a
Subj: Re: Critical path help                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  What is this viewer program that you mentioned so that you could see events
in Critical Path?  I am stuck on the catwalks and can't seem to find the right
path to get out. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Bill

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From: CHARLES BARTLETT                       Number: 14501
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/11/94 11:20p
Subj: Alone in the Dark Clues                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Does anyone have any Clues for this CD Rom?

I have the following:

    1) Key in Bedroom vase unlocks chester drawer to get mirrors to
       destroy demons on stairwells.

    2) There is on old Indian Tapestry in the 1st room that can be
        hung over the painting in the art gallery to keep the
       hatchet out of your back.

    3)Feed the pot of 'Cannibal's soup to the zombies in the next room.
      They'll leave you alone.

    4) Smiting the suit of armor with the sone statuette will
       disintegrate the armor. - Don't get too close. - Take Sword.

    5) The pirate can be killed with the sword, but it's a fierce
       battle. Save game and practice. Keep advancing on the pirate
       to crowd him against the wall.

    6) Statue of Athena in Garden as a quiver of arrows for the bow.
       Watch out!

    7)Don't disturb the apparitions.(especially in Ball room and
       at the fireplace)



I need clues for the following:

    1) How do I defeat the rats in the basement and the Huge WORM in
       the Cellar?

    2) How can the plant in the bathtub be killed?

    3) How can the apparition in the Library be killed to get to the
       secret door in library in time?

    4) How do stop arrows from flying into your back in the art gallery
       when you get to close to the Chief?

    5) What record is needed for the ballroom dancers?




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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14502
  To: JOHN VAN HARE                            Date: 02/17/94  5:18p
Subj: CD-Rom File Lists                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JVH>Thanks for the prompt response Jim, I have been running Pier 3, but
   >am looking for a wider breadth of material, hopefully there is a
   >file_id.diz for every file on the disk, as I have never really
   >gotten the results I wanted from renefile, cdupld or any of the
   >other renegade files.bbs importers, I have tried 3 of them, I wanted
   >the whole descriptions but it kept reading in the first 2/3 of the
   >first line of the description.  I am hoping to upload them one at a
   >time locally by hitting the enter key a lot!

Have you ever considered running a CD-Rom door?  If Renegade produces a
door.sys file, you can run EZ-Rom.  You wouldn't believe how easily you
can install a new disc with it.  You can adjust your config file for
each CD-Rom, using whatever type of file lists happen to come with that
particular disc.  I usually supply the config files with the shareware
discs I sell.  If you want to see what it looks like, log on my BBS and
take a look.  Mine is SF-Rom, the same thing but for Spitfire BBSes.
I really love that program.  The file name is EZROM13E.ZIP in case you
want to download it.  It even supports offline requests now for those of
us who have more discs than drives. <G>

   >Again thanx for the prompt response.

No problem.  Glad to help.  Catch you later.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14503
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  6:51p
Subj: Top Drawer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   ************************************
                                TOP DRAWER
                   ************************************
                        The Latest Shareware Today


File stats for 1990 and 1991:

90  File   %    Apx  'K'   %        91  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====
       0  0.0%         0  0.0%             1  0.0%       100  0.0%
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

File stats for 1992 and 1993:

92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====
       6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%         3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

Over 45 Megs of 1994 files!

----  Total Files:  4,174    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   609,523  ----

Top Drawer is still available at the introductory price of $19.00!
This price is good until March 15th, so get your copy now.  This is
one of the VERY few discs you can put online and not worry about
copyright infringements, viruses, and commercial programs showing
up.  Give us a call if you have any questions or would like to place
an order.

Computer Works                  Top Drawer $19.00
CD-Rom Sales
[phone] Voice        Visa & Mastercard Accepted
[phone] BBS          Online Orders & File Lists

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14504
  To: LUCA SPADA                               Date: 02/19/94  8:35p
Subj: Top Drawer Comparisons                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LS>Can you please tell me the dupes % against the following CDs:

LS>Night Owl's 11
  >CD PowerBox II
  >Cream of The Crop #2

Sure thing, Luca.  Here goes...

TD  =  Top Drawer
NO11 = Night Owl 11             Format: # of Dupes / Percentage of Files
CDP2 = CD PowerBox 2
CR2  = Cream of the Crop II


           TD              NO11            CDP2            CR2

TD        0/0            286/6.58        445/7.89        951/21.94

NO11    286/6.87           0/0            71/1.25        102/2.35

CDP2    445/10.69         71/1.63         29/.51           0/0

CR2     951/22.86        102/2.35          0/0             0/0


The Top Drawer producers were very careful to exclude any files that are
becoming very risky to run online such as pictures and sounds of copy-
righted characters.  It is a great collection and a breeze to install.
Give us a call if you have any questions or would like to place an
order.  The introductory price is good until March 15th.

Top Drawer    $19  Until March 15th
Big Sky Rom   $26

Order Both and Get Free Shipping!

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Orders & File List

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14505
  To: BARON SCHWING                            Date: 02/19/94  8:39p
Subj: Top Drawer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   ************************************
                                TOP DRAWER
                   ************************************
                        The Latest Shareware Today


File stats for 1990 and 1991:

90  File   %    Apx  'K'   %        91  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====
       0  0.0%         0  0.0%             1  0.0%       100  0.0%
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

File stats for 1992 and 1993:

92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====
       6  0.1%     2,380  0.4%         3,968 95.1%   558,536 91.6%
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

Over 45 Megs of 1994 files!

----  Total Files:  4,174    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   609,523  ----

Top Drawer is still available at the introductory price of $19.00!
This price is good until March 15th, so get your copy now.  This is
one of the VERY few discs you can put online and not worry about
copyright infringements, viruses, and commercial programs showing
up.  Give us a call if you have any questions or would like to place
an order.

Computer Works                  Top Drawer $19.00
CD-Rom Sales
[phone] Voice        Visa & Mastercard Accepted
[phone] BBS          Online Orders & File Lists

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14506
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:49a
Subj: Shareware CD Dates                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is going to be focusing in on shareware CD-Roms more so
than in the past.  As I gather information on the different BBS Ready
discs, I will pass it on to the readers of this conference.  The
following is information concerning file dates on most popular shareware
discs. I will release more info as it becomes available.

                            File Dates in Percent

Title                   1990    1991    1992    1993    Files   Megs
_______________________________________________________________________
Big Sky Rom             27.9    26.0    32.8     5.1    7024    649
Cream of the Crop 2      0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    5719    600 ?
Shareware Extravaganza  15.9    23.3    30.1     0.0   25376    ? 4 CDs
Giga Games              17.7    28.3    17.8     5.2    2007    211
So Much Modem Madness    0.0    14.1    35.1    50.8    7839    599
Night Owl Games          0.7     0.9    16.9    81.4     916    126
Night Owl Graphics       0.0     0.0    31.8    68.1    4562    637
Night Owl 8              4.6     4.6    64.7    25.8    4945    ?
Night Owl 9              0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    4962    662
Night Owl 10             0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    5139    632
OS/2 Box                 0.0     0.0    21.3    78.7    2029    281
Pier 3                   0.0     0.0     0.0   100.0    4547    660 ?
CD PowerBox 1.0          4.9    15.7    76.7     0.0    6805    605
CD PowerBox 2.0          0.0     0.0     1.3    98.4    5640    637
So Much Screenware       0.1     0.9    99.0     0.0    1905    ?
So Much Shareware 3      0.2     2.6    53.5    43.7    5598    650 ?
Tech Arsenal             8.6    27.2    33.9    30.3    7255    632 ?
Top Drawer #1            0.0     0.1     0.5    96.5    4146    592 '94+
Software Vault 2         0.0     0.0     0.1    99.9    7969    ?
Software Vault Gold      0.0     0.0     0.1    99.9    6148    579
Software Vault Games     1.0     2.1     5.3    90.5     935    149
Software Vault Windows   0.0     0.0     0.4    99.6    1852    267

Notes: <1> The ? means that the byte sizes in the file list used for
           the analysis were not compatible with the analysis program.
           In some cases total megs stats were supplied by the producer.
       <2> If the total percentages do not add up to 100.0%, then there
           are earlier files or incorrect dates on some files. The one
           exception is Top Drawer #1, which has 3% 1994 dated files.
       <3> Accuracy of the above data is dependent on accuracy of the
           file dates provided by the producer. Computer Works is not
           liable for any inaccuracies in the data.
       <4> All of the above file lists are available for download from
           Computer Works.

Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Orders, File lists, Catalogs

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14507
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:51a
Subj: Top Drawer $19                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          That's right a great ShareWare ROM
                     for $19.00



Big Sky Rom's newest release, TopDrawer, is now shipping;
for you who have pre ordered, it's on its way.
Yeah, I know.  What kind of ROM am I getting for 19
bucks?

                   ANSWER

       Possibly the best ROM you have to date!

This ROM is published by SysOps for the SysOp.  Tired of
compiling list and heaven knows what else to get a ROM
online?

This is the answer you have been waiting for, affordable
files at this introductory price, to show what TopDrawer
is and can do.

Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
using maximum compression.
All archives and their members have been scanned with the
latest virus scanners.

All files have file_id.diz's in them, GOOD ONE's, at that;
we added over 1,859 full descriptions when none were available
or the author thought that high ASCII looked better.

And on TOP of all that, we have made a great effort to remove
commercial files and other copyright infringements.
Now, what this means is that we set this ROM up for the BBS,
not the end user!!!!

We have, because of current legal cases and judgments within the
publishing community, removed VOC, WAVE, and MIDI sound files. The
real programs are still there; we just deleted the lawyer syndrome.
All of the GIF's are our own, no copyright infringements to worry
about. You are licensed as the ROM owner to distribute them to your
users.

There is also a feature authors DIR.  That's the authors we felt
exhibited professional demeanor in program ability and distribution
ease.  Plus, we have the text files that are the latest rage -- that
is, we have STEVE ROBERTS stuff, NOT Megabytes of FAQ's or other
drivel.  We have taken great pains to think of the user and the SysOp.
You will find your users cruising through this easy file system and
praising you for the setup (that is, if you have great users like we
do).

Both the SuperMart BBS and PC-MONTANA BBS have handicapped users, and
thought went into the files and their placement to enhance the interface
for these special individuals.
Ok, now to the brass tacks:  Files -- there are 4,174;that's 624 Mb +
uncompressed.  Dirs -- no, not 50 or 60, just 45 ; and this ROM will
interface with our first release, BIG SKY 01, so you don't have to do
a major setup all over again!

You've probably heard other SysOps saying that they're removing such and
such ROM offline because of one problem or another.  We listen to these
SysOps; you are our bread and butter (low cost spread in this ROM's price

Now, where can I get this ROM?  Well, read the list and you can order
this baby online or by voice.

          The COMPUTER WORKS  Data   1-205-671-0092
                              Voice  1-205-793-4481

          THE SUPERMART BBS   Data   1-406-586-3774
                              Voice  1-406-586-8344

          PC-MONTANA BBS      Data   1-406-284-3120  THE MOTHER BOARD for
                                                     BIG SKY ROMs !

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 14508
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:46a
Subj: Shareware CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                     Computer Works CD-Rom Sales
                          Shareware Titles

Big Sky Rom             $26        Shareware Explorer 4 CD's       $46
CICA Microsoft Windows  $14        Shareware Extravaganza 4 CD's   $40
Cream of the Crop II    $29        Shareware Online 2              $24
GameWare Collection     $22        Shareware Overload              $12
Giga Games              $18        Shareware Studio 2              $16
Hacker Chronicles       $28        So Much Modem Madness           $29
Hamware 1993            $27        So Much Shareware 3             $24
Hobbes OS/2 - Oct 1993  $14        Software Vault Gold             $25
Night Owl 11            $29        Software Vault Games            $24
OS/2 Box                $26        Software Vault Windows          $24
Pier 2                  $25        Tech Arsenal                    $24
Pier 3                  $30        Top Drawer  (New!)              $19

Mastercard & Visa accepted.  Orders may be placed online our BBS 24
hours per day or called in on our voice line.  File lists for most
popular discs are available for download.

Computer Works          BBS    [phone]
CD-Rom Sales            Voice  [phone]
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From: KO BROS                                Number: 14509
  To: MARTIN CLEAVER                           Date: 02/19/94 10:35p
Subj: Satanists...uuugghh                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo Martin!

Wednesday February 16 1994 20:01, Martin Cleaver wrote to Thomas Nietfeld:

 TN>> Joe, you are mistaken in stating that there is no
 TN>> relationship between Wican and occultism and Satanism.

 MC> This conference has been mercifully devoid of Christian rantings,
 MC> but now the Satanists have got to us... Help! Please take your
 MC> faith elsewhere!

Next thing is probably someone starting to rave about spinning CDROMs
the other way around.....8-)

Greetings,
Ko

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14510
  To: RANDY COGHILL                            Date: 02/17/94 10:51p
Subj: CD rom GAMES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Randy,

On 13 February 1994, Randy Coghill wrote:

 TS>> Rebel Assault-amazing (after you have installed the V1.4 bug fix :)  )

                                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I played Rebel Assault v. 1.1 but I didn't notice any bug: could you explain me
what kind of bugs are you referring to?

Many thanks!


Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14511
  To: JONATHAN CHAU                            Date: 02/17/94 10:59p
Subj: CD rom GAMES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Jonathan,

On 12 February 1994, Jonathan Chau wrote:

 TS>> Rebel Assault-amazing (after you have installed the V1.4 bug fix
 JC> It sounds too much like X-Wing for my tastes.  I'm not a big fan of
 JC> flight sims.

You should at least try to see it: it's not a simulator, but an arcade game (as
it is also written on the box). I played X-Wing and I can assure you that Rebel
Assault is completely different...

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14512
  To: SEBASTIAN HAUBITZ                        Date: 02/18/94 12:40a
Subj: Cinemania (Microsoft)                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Sebastian,

On 15 February 1994, Sebastian Haubitz wrote:

 SH> Has someone allready got the Cinemania-cd of Microsoft.
 SH> Is it usefull, how are the moviesequences, what about the performance...
 SH> Please tell me how it looks

Well, even if I don't own it, a friend of mine showed me Cinemania few weeks
ago.
If you are interested in cinema, the best thing you can do in your life is to
buy it. :)
It is is usefull because there are recorded almost all the actors of cinema's
history, with alla the data you could ask for.
Moviesequences have a quality near the FMV: they are very nice to see even if I
must underline that there aren't a lot. Moreover their lenght varies in order
to the importance of the movie: for example for Kubrick's "2001" there is a two
minutes sequence while for Platoon there's a few seconds one.
And let's not forget that for some movies, few seconds of their soundtracks are
available...
Perfomances are quite good, even considering that all texts are hypertextuals.

 SH> ___sorry for the horrible english (Swiss guy)..

Don't worry: you are not alone. Who other? Me, for example... :)

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14513
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 02/18/94  1:53a
Subj: Latest CD-ROM software                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Kenshin,

On 14 February 1994, Kenshin Sakura wrote:

 KS> Is/Was Rebel Assault any good?

For me Rebel Assault is very good!
It has been a pleasure for me to see a Cd-Rom videogame wich is not only the
usual game with good graphics, good music but scarce playability: for the first
time I saw a really good job, various and interesting.
The only criticizable thing is that, despite of X-Wing, Rebel Assault is an
Arcade game that doesn't allow you to do what you want: for example, when
flying in the canyons you can only go where the game allows you to go. When you
battle against Darth Vader's starship you cannot go where you want but you can
only follow a predetermined path.
But don't think Rebel Assault is a videogame like old Dragon's Lair, for
example, where the only actions was to choose whether move your joystick up or
down...
Moreover consider that if Rebel Assault is the most sold videogame in cd-rom's
history (100.000 units only in the first week) there will be a good reason...
;)

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14514
  To: ROGER DONOGHUE                           Date: 02/18/94  1:44a
Subj: Doom etc                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Roger,

On 09 February 1994, Roger Donoghue wrote:

 RD> I have first level and I agree, it's the best overall game I have ever
 RD> played..what atmosphere!

Yes, it's incredible!
I finished it few weeks ago and I found it wonderful!
Sometimes, playing it in the deep of the night without any light in my room and
the volume at the maximum (sound fx are incredible!), after a one our session I
was really afraid of walking alone in my home! :)))

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14515
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/18/94  1:53a
Subj: Cd-Rom perfomances                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao ALL,

I would like to test my cd-rom performances: the only program I own is the old
"CDTA" which has the problem that doesn't work with all CDs: for example, you
can obtain the data you are interested in with Cinemania but not with Rebel
Assault.
So I was wondering if anybody here could advice my a brand new program to test
my cd-rom...

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 14516
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  6:17p
Subj: Reveal Cd Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A local electronics chain is selling Reveal Doublespeed CD drive packages
for a ridiculously low price.  A friend is tempted and asked me about it,
but I haven't seen any reviews or comments about the quality of the drive.
 Does anyone have any experience with them?

Thanks.

... I yam Popeye of the Borg. Prepares ta beez askimiligrated
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 14517
  To: MARC YOUNG                               Date: 02/21/94  5:58p
Subj: Toshiba 3401 And Pas16 Re               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 17 Feb 94, Marc Young stated to Michael Guidry:

MY>MG>Someone a couple of weeks ago asked about experiences with a run
MY>MG>Toshiba 3401 cd rom drive off of a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound c
MY>Here
MY>MG>goes:
MY>
MY>I think t'was me!
MY>
MY>
MY>Thanks, Michael - now: How does it perform?
MY>


Works great.  Very fast access time, which I can see in performing the
computer searches of law books on cd.  I can't tell too much difference on
most of the other cd's I have, e.g. Loom, Sherlock I, and The Animals!.  I
suppose that this is because they were designed to work with slower
drives.  However, accessing GIF's on CD's is clearly a lot quicker, I
guess because that depends a lot more on access time and transfer rate.

I need to get one of the X rated movies on CD Rom to give it a real test
:)

... I yam Popeye of the Borg. Prepares ta beez askimiligrated
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14518
  To: JOHN FOTI                                Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: A FEW MORE CD TITLES.....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JF:>   Do you have a game called Myst? If so what is the cost, including
JF:>   delivery, to Australia.

I carry the Mac version.  My understanding is that the PC version hasn't
been released yet.

.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14519
  To: JOHN ALLISON                             Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: Order for Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JA:>Thanks Mike and you can now consider yourself my #1 American CD dealer.

Glad to hear you got it OK.  Have a good one.

.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Oprah!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14520
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 02/21/94 12:35a
Subj: New Cd-Rom Titles!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM:>MS> CURRENT SHAREWARE 94 * Brand new release w/ great book!.
BBS........$27.
TM:>MS> SYSOP'S COMPANION * The ultimate collection of BBS-related
programs.$17.

TM:>      These two Cds are thay BBS Ready and How Many Dirs in each CD

They both have file listings for BBS use.  Not 100% sure about the number
of directories though.

.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14521
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS:> MM> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for $250,000 for using
SS:> MM> their copyrited material, what's going to happen to me if I get
SS:> MM> caught running this on my board?

SS:>Suing?  For what?  Did they steal PICS? :)

I don't know of any lawsuit filed by Disney against Night Owl's at this
time.  There was apparently a picture of Bugs Bunny on the early cuts,
which is a Warner character.  According to what the distributor for Night
Owl's told me, it had been settled.  You might direct your question
towards Doug Carpenter, as he seems to know more about it than I.

Later,
.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14522
  To: ENGEL VAN.DER.WEIJDEN                    Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP 2: $25                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EV:> MS  SUPER SPECIAL 2-CD PACKAGE:  Cream of the Crop 2 + Night Owl 11..$49

EV:> MS>  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS:
EV:> MS> 509-457-2892  FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 *
EV:> MS> VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

EV:> I am interested in the above-mentioned offer.
EV:> I have a VISA- and a MASTERCARD.
EV:> Is there a possibility to send the CD-ROMS to me?
EV:> However there may be a problem: I live in The Netherlands.

Engel,

No problem...we send to the Netherlands almost daily.  Insured airmail
shipping would be $14 for the two CD's, and we do accept VISA and M/C.  You
can place your order in a number of ways:  crash-mail to our Fido address @
1:3407/101, or via our BBS @ 509-457-0206, or by fax @ 509-457-2966, or by
voice @ 509-457-2892, or through Internet: [e-mail]  or through
Compuserve @ 72632,2050  or by mail at our shipping address below.

Use the one that works best for you!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50


 * SLMR 2.1a * Grow your own dope....plant J. Allen!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14523
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: Top Drawer Stats                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC:>no sound files or pcx files or gif or Disney or Warner stuff that can get
yo
DC:>sued for copyright violations.  Disney is out sueing the distributors now
DC:>besides the publishers and I wouldn't be surprised to see them trying to
sue

Who are they suing, and for which CD's in particular?  Night Owl 11 had a
Warner cartoon on it, and according to Mark Abbacchi, they have apparently
settled that one.  As for sound files, the attorney I spoke with stated
that there is no course of action over "sound bites" or small portions of
a copyrighted soundtrack, which is what most of the shareware CD's contain.
When it comes to reproducing an entire full-length soundtrack, then you
have a problem.  Can you be more specific about which CD's/publishers
Disney is pursuing?  I've only heard rumors.

.\\ike


 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14524
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |   Title:  SOFTWARE VAULT PLATINUM  Price: $19.90   |

     * Fully BBS-ready * 600+ megabytes * 6148 files
     * File listing available:  VAULTPLT.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)

   2-CD SET:  Software Vault Gold + Platinum...........(NO dupes!)....$37

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

 * SLMR 2.1a * '94 L.A. quake survivor.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 14525
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94 12:36a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |   Title:  NIGHT OWL 11            Price:  $29.90   |

     * Night Owl 10.1 + 11...........(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$49
     * Night Owl 9 + 10.1 + 11.......(All '93 + No Dupes!)..........$69
     * Night Owl 8 + 9 + 10.1 + 11.........(No Dupes!)..............$85
     * Night Owl 11 + Cream of the Crop 2..(2.3% Dupes).............$49

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-457-2892
 FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H: $4.50

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks.

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From: BILL PARROTT                           Number: 14526
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  6:53p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the deluxe copy of 7th Guest which includes the video of its making.

                             !!!!! $45.00 !!!!!

       I pay shipping too. Call 1-208-375-3844 or leave message here.


Bill

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From: WARREN KREICK                          Number: 14527
  To: OWEN WINTERS                             Date: 02/19/94 11:01a
Subj: Re: Adult CD ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


On 15 Feb 94 12:19pm, Owen Winters wrote to Warren Kreick:

 OW> Do you still have some Adult CDROMs to sell/trade?  I'm interested
 OW> in buying if the $$ is right.  What do you have/what will you
 OW> take?  Call 404-594-9367 daytime and ask for me. (Collect is OK)
 OW> Or post here.  Thanks!

 I recieved an offer on 'em, if it does not pan out I'll repost the add...

 Thanks for your' interest !

                                  \\~arren

... How does a mouse let me move the cursor anywhere I want?
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From: JUSTIN TURY                            Number: 14528
  To: VOLKER MEYER                             Date: 02/20/94  5:15p
Subj: Kq6                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Volker Meyer to All dated 02-11-94 ***
> Hi there!
>
> Is anyone around here playing Kq6 currently? I could use some hints.
>
>
I beat it about a year ago. I'd be glad to help.

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From: WONG THOMAS                            Number: 14529
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 02/21/94 12:41p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> Hello Noel!
 DR> Tuesday February 15 1994 10:40, Noel Cranswick wrote to Bert Patterson:
 BP>> No, No, only kidding, but I bet a lot of Americans still don't know
 BP>> where Australia is ,or anything about it.
 NC> Isn't Australia next to Germany?? ;-}

 DR> No, stupid!  It's next to Canada!  ;-)
 DR> Later,
 DR> Dave

     hahaha... Australia is 15000km from Canada... it's more like beside
 New Zealand, 5 hours by air from SE Asia and certainly no where in the
 northern hemisphere, check your encylcopedia guys!





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From: RON KRAMER                             Number: 14530
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94 12:22a
Subj: RTZork tips                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ive made some progress today - found someone under the bridge got him to give
me a good luck charm, found a drunks house and drank him to the floor (after
reading about toasting in the files) Found a secret compartment under the floor
- but how to get past the locked door down there??

Also still can`t get past the pop quiz, and am I suppose to do something with
the mice?  Is it possible to use the crank to start the old car?  Also why turn
on the mill?

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From: RON KRAMER                             Number: 14531
  To: SUNNY LEUNG                              Date: 02/21/94  3:50p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SL> I hate mazes too! Just when you thought RTZ's automap feature would be
 SL> useful you find out that it doesn't work for mazes. Arrgh! I sometimes
 SL> think that game designers put mazes in games just to make them larger
 SL> and play longer. Some people really deplore mazes (ME!) and designers

What automap feature?  What mazes?  Im still trying to get in the door at the
bottom of the drunks secret tunnel!  I finally got past the pop quiz...  Also
is it possible to start the car with the crank and drive it?

There is a lot of talk of drinking and driving???



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From: RON KRAMER                             Number: 14532
  To: DOUG WILSON                              Date: 02/21/94  3:52p
Subj: encyclopedia on CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LM>extremely popular.

 DW> Have you seen/used Microsoft's Encarta?  I am about to buy an
 DW> encyclopedia, and I am curious as to which one you prefer and why.  All

Encarta is the best Ive seen, the print out feature is the best and least
`limiting` the 256 color displays are better then Comptons, but Comptons 16
color displays and clearer and sharper then Encarta in 16 colors.  I havn`t
seen Groliers in several years so not up on their latest.  For 84.00 - Encarta
is well worth its price!


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From:                                        Number: 14533
  To:                                          Date: 02/20/94  4:58p
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: SCUDDER WAGG                           Number: 14534
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  8:50p
Subj: Game 4 Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wolfpack CD version $40

Price is negotiable.  Reply or call me at [phone].

Thanks,
Scud

... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
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From: DAVE BEATRICE                          Number: 14535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/17/94  9:24p
Subj: Help on CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ok, this is for all you experts!  Currently have a 486dx2 66 VLB system.
I have a Soundblaster 8 bit card in it.  What I want to do is to get a
2x spin CD-Rom that is external because I've no more bays left in my case.
If I get an external, will I be able to connect to the SB card thru the
jack in the back of the card or will the CD-Rom interface card take care
of it by not having to hook up to the SB card at all?  Also, what is the
fastest and most durable 2x external?  I've heard Panasonic and Toshiba
make excellent drives.  I want access times around 250ms and under and
a buffer at 256k if possible.  Can I do the above?  I don't really want
to get another sound card because the SB is patched into a signal processor
and time delay units into my stereo system and the sound I get is truly
unbelievable!  Thanx.

Dave


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 14536
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/20/94 11:50p
Subj: Mitsumi From $139                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Mitsumi LU-005s CDrom drive - $139.00
    fast single speed drive with 350ms access time & 175k xfer rate.
    has 32k built-in buffer & will read multisession kodak photocds

       Mitsumi FX-001d Cdrom drive - $219.00
    lightning fast double speed drive w/250ms access & 350k xfer rate.
    comes with 64k built-in buffer & reads all kodak photo cds

     SHIPPING ON CDROM DRIVES:  $7.00          COD add $4.50
   SO MUCH SHAREWARE/2 Disk only $12 with purchase of above drive.

  SPYR, Inc  PO Box 89  Erie PA 16512  Int'l Prepaid Orders Accepted
     Phone [phone] or fax in your order at [phone]

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 14537
  To: SCOTT RALEY                              Date: 02/18/94  6:43p
Subj: FrontDoor and CD-ROM Chan               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >> Hi,

 >> I'm looking for experiences in having a CD-ROM Changer
 >> running together with
 >> FrontDoor. What kind of SW is used to change the CD's?
 >> Does it work
 >> when someone request files from different CD's that
 >> are not currently loaded?

 >> Any tips kindly appreciated.

 >> Kind regards from Switzerland
 >> Markus

 > Frontdoor doens't have anything to do with your
 > cdroms. Your bbs software takes care of the cdroms.

That is *not* true.  If you allow other BBSes to FREQ files off your CD-ROM,
then FD needs to be able to read and transmit the files found on the CD-ROM.
The first step is to add a line to your AUTOEXEC.BAT or the file that starts FD
the statement SET FDOPT=NORES.  This allows FD to process the file names as you
are used to seeing them (ie. D:\directory\filename) as opposed to *network*
format, since MS-DOS thinks CD-ROMs are network drives.  Then, you must change
your list of directories to allow FREQs from to include the CD-ROM directories
that you wish to make available.

Larry

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From: ANTHONY ADAMS                          Number: 14538
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 02/18/94  8:55p
Subj: CD-ROM catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > If you like to be in our mailing list ot receive our
 > latest catalog and special offers, please call or
 > write to

 > GroupWare
 > 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
 > Tacoma, WA 98409
 > Tel [phone] or 1-800-373-0628
 > Fax [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

Yes please send to

A.J.Adams
53 Watermeadow Drive
Northampton
nn3 4st
U.K.

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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14539
  To: DENNIS COLEMAN                           Date: 02/21/94  9:50a
Subj: Re: 1994 cd catalog                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Dennis Coleman blurted out ≡=-
 DC>Well finally the 1994 CD catalogue is now ready for
 DC>everyone asks for a copy to be posted to them on 720k
 DC>floppy disks.

I wonder if I ask for one yet...  If I didn't then please send one to:

S. Lim
Dept. of Physics
Stanford, CA 94305

It's for a relative, so S. Lim, not E. Lim.  Thanx!  EL

... 2+2=4 (for the time being).
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From: EVAN LIM                               Number: 14540
  To: TERRY BALSEWICZ                          Date: 02/21/94  9:53a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Terry Balsewicz blurted out ≡=-
 TB> If anyone is interested in adult CD-ROMS give STARCOM BBS a call at
 TB> 414-541-9362. If you would like a catalog or place an order call our

Can you mail it to me instead since I don't wanna run a phone bill.
Please mail to:

Qi Voung
5737 Rickey Dr.
Sacramento, CA 95822

For a friend.  :)  Thanx!  EL

... Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 14541
  To: JAY ROTHSCHILD                           Date: 02/22/94 12:22a
Subj: Mail problems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have been wandering why for months now I never get mail in the CDROM echo and
I have been posting like crazy.  Well I loged onto your BBS and checked through
all of your echos for mail from me and I only found some realy old ones
from 1993 in the for sale echo.  I have lost quite a bit of money from my news
about my new catalogs not getting through.  What is the problem with this?
You can call me voice at 708-657-1160.
I am interested in a few things you have for sale also.


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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 14542
  To: JAY ROTHSCHILD                           Date: 02/22/94 12:22a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I offer $375 for the 2 IDE hard drives and the 2 Floppy drives.  The only
reason I would buy them is for resale.
Don Rieb 657-1160.


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From: BARRY MISHKIND                         Number: 14543
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/20/94  4:42p
Subj: Comptons's Int Ency                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <Feb 20 94> Ed Duchek (1:387/635.1) wrote:

 ED> I have (2) Comptons's Interactive Encyclopedia's for sale.  These are
 ED> the windows version 1.01VW.  My price is $35 + P&H.  reply back soon,
 ED> I do not think these will last very long!!!!!!!


 ED> Ed Duchek

This is the fourth time over the past month that you have posted this same
message. Either you have more than two and are scamming us about that (if they
are promo copies, Compton's would be upset) or you're collecting cash from
people and not shipping.

Perhaps you'd like to explain yourself.


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From: ROGER DUNK                             Number: 14544
  To: MARK HAYDEN                              Date: 02/17/94 10:02a
Subj: UART Chips                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Mark,
      I have no idea why it should work properly when uploading
      but not downloading. Just change some of the options in
      your comms program or whatever and see if anything helps
      or else the only option may be to replace the chip.


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From: RUSSELL COOK                           Number: 14545
  To: SEAN BEGGS                               Date: 02/19/94 12:18a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >> Then it should perhaps be a STRICT rule that when quoting prices you
 >> post where that price applies.....
 >  rc> Why ?? *We* know where we are <grin>
 > I agree with you.  I think ALL COUNTRIES should be quoting their prices
Sorry I was actually saying people should read the origin line, (after all it's
mandatory to have one :-), and then they'd KNOW where the stuff was - at the
worst they'd have the right Zone at least.

 > I think this would please everyone.  It takes so little effort.
Possibly but people always want someone *else* to do things for them. 'bout
time some thought for themselves now and then :-)

regards russell

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 14546
  To: SEAN BEGGS                               Date: 02/18/94 11:10p
Subj: CD for Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

 >> 1       Conan the Cimmerian                     $48

 > I am a huge fan of Conan!  What is this game like?  Is
 > it at all decent playing?

yes, its pretty good, very big game though, voice all the way.

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 14547
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/18/94 11:27p
Subj: Importing CD's to Oz                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

 > This message is directed to Australian CD users.

 > Can anybody tell me what the current situation is with
 > importing CD's from overseas into Australia for
 > private use. I'm talking here about 1 copy each of a
 > title, not commercial multiple titles. Or possibly 2
 > copies if a friend also wanted one at the same time.

 > * What is the amount of import duty due?

their isn't any import duty, though their is a small 'what i would call a paper
handling charge' of $14.10 charge.

 > * What if I >shyly hides under table< wanted to import
 > an adult rated title? (I am well over 21)

As long as it doesn't fall into the banned category of the ratings, it
basically gets checked and then sent on to you.

 > * What is the preferred method of payment used for
 > transactions with companies  overseas. (also through
 > this echo)

credit card, int. monery telix.

 > * Are there any CD restricted material that the
 > Customs won't allow in. (such  as "Build Your Own
 > Atomic Bomb" etc.)

Adult material falling into the following category, depictions of unduly
detailed and/or relished acts of extreme violence or cruelty.
Sexual voilence/ non-consent of any kind, child abuse, bestiality, etc etc.

Also detailed instruction or encouragement in: matters of crime or violence or
the abuse of proscribed drugs.

 > * Has anyone been hassled by the Customs over CD
 > imports?

i've has titles that have taken longer to get but never stopped. Adult material
is not allowed to be shipped with United Parsel Service.

 > It may interest overseas readers to know that the
 > Australian Customs Service has been through a review
 > process and the decision is, "Scrap it all and start
 > again with a new Customs service." !

Denis

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From: DAVID ADKINS                           Number: 14548
  To: STEVEN JONES                             Date: 02/17/94 12:18p
Subj: cdu33a cdrom drivers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I just (today that is) bought a Sony CDU33A cd-rom drive but it didn'
-> with any driver software. I have not been able to get it going and do
-> will be able to without a driver. The questions are 1. does anyone kn
-> drivers needed for this drive? does it in fact need special drivers o
-> come with either dos 6.0 or windows 3.1 ? Any help at all would be ap
-> Oh by the way it plugs into the floppy drive controller, which is a b
-> pain as it appears that I will lose my 5 1/4" inch drive. Does anyone
-> way to keep the 2 floppy's and this controller? As I said any info ab
-> drive would be muchly appreciated as I'm ancious to start playing wit
-> toy.
I think you will find you need to purchase a contoller card whilst the
Sony uses the same type of cable as 31/2 floppy drvies do still need a
card to control it and drivers.  There is a card now available that
works with Sony, Panasonic and Mitsumi but only one type at a time.
Available in Melbourne
regards
David


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From: NATHAN BERG                            Number: 14549
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 02/19/94 12:27p
Subj: Hitachi CD Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yeah Hi Gordon,
                Thankyou for replying! I have the Hitachi software version
Hitachi Extensions, where drivers available is HITACHI.sys this is all I have
and I don't know why I haven't got HITACHIA.sys or HITACHIB.sys, but I would be
very interested in obtaining a copy of the relevant Hitachi driver as mine
doesn't seen to be for my CD Rom.
                If that is possible it would be much appreciated, I would be
more than happy to give your board a call and obtain the correct software
drivers for my CD rom.



Kindest Regards


Nathan

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From: CHRIS ANSELL                           Number: 14550
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94  6:32p
Subj: Microcosm opinions???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi all, does anyone have any opinions on the new psygnosis "fantastic voyage"
game "Microcosm"? I saw the sega cd version, it looks very basic in the action
stakes, but boy, it has the best intro i have ever seen, bar rebel Assault. The
intro is like 15 minutes at least, and is a full movie, with helicopters flying
around, army dudes in high tech gear on rooftops, even ed 209's clones walking
around, and they look real!!!
please write back if you have any info on the pc version.
regards
kegster

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From: JOHN FOTI                              Number: 14551
  To: CHARLES CAMPBELL                         Date: 02/19/94  9:43p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Sale - Aussie only        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

i had it for sale  - it is now sold.

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From: ZORAN ANANIJEV                         Number: 14552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94 12:39a
Subj: Night Owls-11 Available!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gday,

I've got limited stock of Night Owls 11 available for AUS $ 48.00

Call me on [phone] or Order Via The Online Shop on Games Unlimited II
[phone].  We accept Visa, MasterCard and BankCard online.


Regards Zoran.

... Security, confine Ensign  to the brig.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: PETER BRYCE                            Number: 14553
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 02/19/94  8:02a
Subj: Rebel Assault Codes!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



Here's all the codes that have been given to me from many users who
answered >my< plea for help in the CD Rom Q & A echo...



Passcodes (in easy, normal, hard order)

FALCON, BIGGS, ACKBAR

ANOAT, KAIBURR, FORNAX

MYNOCK, YUZZEM, BESPIN

BRIGIA, DAGOBAH, KESSEL

GREEDO, MIMBAN, ORGANA



** The following is how to access Rebel Assaults' inbuilt cheat mode...

At the title screen (with the Death Star in the back), do this with your

joystick fairly quickly and in the correct sequence, before/while the

LucasArts logo is spinning...



Push up, hold, and then press the fire button, release fire button. Push down,

hold, and then press the fire button, release fire button. Push left, hold,

and then press the fire button, release fire button. Push down, hold, and then

press the fire button, release fire button.



If you've successfully executed the above, you'll hear (on the same title

screen) a telephone ring & then the enthusiastic LucasArts team answering,

"LucasArts". You're now running Rebel in cheat mode. This mode stays in effect

until you quit the game. In this mode, the following keys become active & you

can press them at anytime to take control...



+        decrease damage

-        increase damage

1 to 9   warp to chapters 1-9

a to f   warp to chapters 10-15 (a,b,c,d,e,f)



Each chapter may also have many "segments" in it as part of that chapter. When

in one of these segments, pressing the ESCape key will skip that particular

segment and go onto the next. To skip to another chapter, press one of the

chapter warp keys. Don't panic if the game seems to stop & start a bit on it's

way to your chosen chapter as this seems to be normal. The game will right

itself once it has arrived at your chosen spot.



BTW, have you seen the LucasArts endo? - You have to wait until the end of the

game credits scroll by completely, and then the endo begins.

I've seen endo's in Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis, and, The Day of the

Tentacle. In each case LucasArts seem to be putting a humorous endo on each of

their CD titles and each is different.



----- Well, I hope this message helps you and other readers who've got Rebel

Assault. Keep this message & pass it along to other Rebel Assaulters who may

need it in the future.



.....seeyalater.



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From: MARC YOUNG                             Number: 14554
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 02/17/94  9:39p
Subj: Toshiba 3401 And Pas16 Re               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG>Someone a couple of weeks ago asked about experiences with a running a
MG>Toshiba 3401 cd rom drive off of a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card.  Here
MG>goes:

I think t'was me!


Thanks, Michael - now: How does it perform?

.\\arc

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 14555
  To: NIGEL HUNT                               Date: 02/20/94  7:01p
Subj: Cd Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-13-94, in a colourful display of the English language, Nigel Hunt
said to All:-

NH>I have a Creative Labs SoundBlaster 16 and CD ROM unit (The one that
NH>comes in the kit)
NH>
NH>When I play some CD's like Mad Dog McCree etc I get a popping noise
NH>during the speech. Has anybody else experienced this and have they
NH>managed to fix it or am I just wasting my time.

Try setting a lower volume level; I suspect you are kicking the
card into overload... worked for me!

---
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From: BRYAN FULLER                           Number: 14556
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/21/94  9:37p
Subj: BEST-SELLING NEW CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->            |  Title:  CREAM OF THE CROP 2         Price:  $25   |
->
->      * 654mb total * Virus-scanned with the LATEST scanning software
->      * FILES.BBS support * 5000+ total files * 14mb of source code
->      * 0% internal duplicates
->      * Only 2.3% dupes to Night Owl 11
->      * SUPER SPECIAL 2-CD PACKAGE:  Cream of the Crop 2 + Night Owl 1
->
->  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS: 509-45
->  FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H:
->
->  * SLMR 2.1a * '94 L.A. quake survivor.
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:

Imight want one, do yo have any kind of a catalog? If so, could you
please send me one at:
2028 sw 306 pl
federal way, wa 98023


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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 14557
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  1:21a
Subj: Afterdark SHAREWARE?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey all!

I was poking around my "Dr. Windows" CD-Rom, and found a file called
"AFTERDRK.ZIP".  It was described as "Lots of fun and bitmaps!"  Well (as I
suspected) it turned out to be the commercial AfterDark screen saver,
albeit an old version.

Does anyone know if AD was _ever_ released as a shareware product?  If not,
sysops beware, for Dr. Windows has a commercial product on it.



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.10 # 153 *
... "Hehehehe, 2400 baud sucks!"  V.bis and Baudhead.
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From: BRAD BRAUER                            Number: 14558
  To: JAMES WHITESELL                          Date: 02/16/94  8:26p
Subj: Brain Pickin'                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          James Whitesell sputtered 
 +-------------------------------+
###Greetings from a CD ROM virgin.  Recently purchased a 486SX-25 with 4 MEGS
###RAM and 120 MEG HD.  Now going to upgrade and go CD ROM.  Will purchase a
###co-processor, another 100+ MEG HD and four more MEGS of RAM.  Am looking a
###CD ROM outfit advertised in the winter '94 DAK catalog.  The price is so l
###makes me nervous--$299 external, $249 internal.  I'd like some feedback on
###this.  Here are the specifics from the ad:
###
###External caddy-based high speed 390 millisecond, full 150+ KBS MPC Multime
###CD ROM drive.  MPC CD ROM interface card with SoundBlaster, Windows and Ad
###sound compatibility.  Amplified two way computer speaker systems.  Three f
###MPC Multimedia CD ROM programs. It comes with cables and a card with jacks
###joystick, headphone, left/right audio and microphone, plus volume control.
###Brand name is BSR.
 +-------------------------------+

Um, the price is not too low, it's too HIGH!  You can buy NEW internal
Mitsumi, Sony, and Panasonic drives for around $200.  AND, they are double
spin, not single spin like the one above.  You can also get a soundblaster
Pro that will work with the Panasonic (model 562b or something) and that's
only about 70-100 more.  So your'e looking at about $300 for a bundled
CD-Rom package that includes double spin CD-Rom (300kbs transfer 250-300 ms
access) and it's from a well known company (I have never heard of BSR).
If you buy it at the right place, they might even throw in some CDs to go
with it, speakers too.  Hope this helps,
Brad
... If all goes well, you've overlooked something!

 * TLX v3.10 *

 * SLMR 2.1a *


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From: STANLEY SHEFF                          Number: 14559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:45p
Subj: Rombrain from Brainex                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BRAINEX UPDATES: Now available from The Brainex System:
FIDO 1:102/737 or 1:102/739

ROMBRAIN  - A stand alone CDROM file door.  If you use a CDROM, you
2/20/94     need this door!  Keeps your cdrom file base separate from
            your BBS's file base. Features file search, read/transfer
            from .ZIP files, multi-node, multi-CD access.
            Can copy cdrom files to HD for CD Changers.

REQUEST   - Used with Rombrain.  This program will automatically
2/20/94     copy offline file requests generated by RomBrain.
            The sysop just inserts the CD, and request copies
            files to a separate user directory on the hard drive.
            Users can download their files using the Request door.

BRAINEX   - Required to run Brainex Doors. Fast and easy way to setup
DOOR        and modify all Brainex Doors! Includes 1 year BBS support.
MANAGER
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FREQ: ROMBRAIN.ZIP, BRAINEX.ZIP
To try the doors online, or use your credit card to order them for your
BBS, call The Brainex System at 310-275-2344 or 310-273-5234.


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From: KYLE LANCLOS                           Number: 14560
  To: SAM LAMBROPOULOS                         Date: 02/22/94  4:31a
Subj: Mscdex /m?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SL>I am using MSCDEX that came with dos 6.2 and was
SL>wondering what the minimum and maximum number of sector
SL>buffers is available using the following parameters.

I don't know if there is a minimum, and I believe the max is only limited by
your memory.... try something really outlandish like 128 and see how it works.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit

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From: SCOTT RALEY                            Number: 14561
  To: ZACH WALKER                              Date: 02/20/94  6:37p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  1: In the Message:
 > 2: I have a used 6-Disk CD_Rom.  I am willing to sell
 > it cheep.
 > 3: Under $800.00.  BRAND NEW CONDITION!!
 > 4: Call me if you want to buy at 492-3693.
 > 5:                              Thanks,
 > 6:                                    Zach Walker
 > 7: The nuber is Wrong!!!  Please call again if you
 > called the
 > 8: previous number.  Call 918-492-0107 and ask for
 > Zach
 > Thanks Again,
 >         Zach Walker
 > * SPITFIRE v3.4
 > --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
 >  * Origin: Over The Line BBS  [phone] (1:170/
 > 260)


Wanna trade for an unopened, unregistered copy of Autocad Release 11?

Scott

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 14562
  To: IRA LUNSK                                Date: 02/21/94  8:22a
Subj: New USR 21.6 Modem                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM>  Can anyone tell me if you have to do any type of setting to
TM> run the  new USR 21.6 modem with Telix or do you stay with
TM> the 16.8k setting.  If someone is running this modem with
TM> Telix can you please post your  setting

IL>I use the 16.8 dual settings. There is only one 21.6 bbs, other than mine,
in
IL>the area. I get 21.6 connects but after a file transfer
IL>ati6 only shows a 16800/16800. Maybe bad phone lines, maybe
IL>v.32ter just isn't that great.

Hi Ira,
     What do you have you port lock at?
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               -== FidoNET Address:  Tom Miller@1:396/1 ==-
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From: FRED ROREX                             Number: 14563
  To: KEITH FORD                               Date: 02/21/94  2:05p
Subj: Windows For Workgroups 3.11             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KF> Having upgraded to windows for workgroups 3.11, my Mitsumi Cdrom drive
 KF> seems
 KF> to be treated as though it were a floppy drive. I keep getting error
 KF> messages
 KF> when there is no disk in the drive or when I am playing audio cd's.
 KF> The message is error reading drive E.
 KF>         Can anybody help ?
 KF>
Hi Keith,

I think that unless you have a data disk (not audio) inserted, you will get
that message. It does the same thing with me.
Fred

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14564
  To: TRANE FRANCKS                            Date: 02/21/94  5:53p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 a lawsuits                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TF> Aw, come on... You know as well as I do that *IF* you got caught,
 TF> you'd get asked to fix the problem. So, you fix it and the
 TF> trouble goes away. You wouldn't even need to call a lawyer.

There you are dead wrong.  There has already been a couple of BBS's busted
already for distributing copyrighted material.  They contact you and offer you
a $2,500 fine or your computer system.  It is for real.

 TF> Until the time comes (which for 99.999999% would be NEVER), you
 TF> don't worry about it and just continue offering what you want to
 TF> offer. No point in worrying about it. Everybody knows that sysops
 TF> are broke anyway.<Big Grin>

Your just fooling yourself.  Disney and Warner are out to protect the copyright
of their stuff.  It is big money for them that they are losing by the
electronic BBS community is going around distributing their picture files and
sound files for free.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 14565
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 02/21/94  5:57p
Subj: PIONEER 602X                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BO>    IN STOCK                   PRICE - $845.00
 BO>               IN STOCK

 DS> Anyone have this at a better price?  For $750 or
 DS> so, I'll take it now. Answer
 DS> here or netmail to the origin below.

Good luck finding one that cheap.  Boris's price is very good.  Our price for a
cash sale is $839.

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 14566
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 02/18/94  7:30p
Subj: Mitsumi From $139                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Mitsumi LU-005s CDrom drive - $139.00
    fast single speed drive with 350ms access time & 175k xfer rate.
    has 32k built-in buffer & will read multisession kodak photocds

       Mitsumi FX-001d Cdrom drive - $219.00
    lightning fast double speed drive w/250ms access & 350k xfer rate.
    comes with 64k built-in buffer & reads all kodak photo cds

     SHIPPING ON CDROM DRIVES:  $7.00          COD add $4.50
   SO MUCH SHAREWARE/2 Disk only $12 with purchase of above drive.

  SPYR, Inc  PO Box 89  Erie PA 16512  Int'l Prepaid Orders Accepted
     Phone [phone] or fax in your order at [phone]

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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 14568
  To: RON COOK                                 Date: 02/22/94 12:15a
Subj: Philip CM 205 driver                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RC>Does anyone know where I can get the OS/2 driver for a Philip CM 205 CD-ROM?

I have it and the driver for the LMS206 on my system. You can FREQ it at
14.4 v32b from 1:226/290. I'm looking for the driver for the 215/10,
know where I can get it?


Rick
---
 X OLX 2.1 X 98% of all constipated people don't give a crap.

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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 14569
  To: JERRY THOMSON                            Date: 02/22/94 12:20a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JT>Hi Mike,

JT>    I ordered that Busty Babes from you and didn't know it had so much
JT>shareware programs, ie; utilities etc.  Also, the quality
JT>of the scans were quite poor of the gifs on the disk.  I
JT>would like to return it for an exchange, but need a little
JT>help from you or any user that might know if the CD you
JT>have called Sizzel or something like that with adult gifs
JT>have better quality scans without other non related
JT>utilites and such?  I run a BBS and this Busty Babes has
JT>the worst technical scans of any of the adult gifs I carry.
JT> Not talking about how xx they are, but just the scan
JT>quality.  I carry about 4 megs of adult gifs including Hot
JT>Pix and all of them are pretty good scan quality.
JT>    Just want to keep the quality up to par.  I'm a little
JT>embarassed to put this Busty Babes online as it is so
JT>disapointing.

JT>Thanks,
JT>         Jerry

You must have gotten a bad disk, my brother has BB II and it has some of
the best GIF scans, quality wise, I've seen. Do you have at least a 1
meg SVGA card? If you don't then you won't see the quality of the scans
to their fullest.
___
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 14570
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  7:14p
Subj: Feb'94 OS/2 CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its OS/2 CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
500 selected products and the best directory database and search
program in the business. The $25 special "net" price includes a 2nd CD
copy of a 145,000 record PC products database.
Voice:[phone], Fax:[phone].
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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 14571
  To: RON KRAMER                               Date: 02/22/94  7:08a
Subj: Zork/Encart/Comptons/SBPRO and chatter  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ron - what year is the compton's?  Jerry

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From: RICK NAY                               Number: 14572
  To: CHRIS ANSELL                             Date: 02/22/94 12:00a
Subj: Re: Microcosm opinions???               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wait to  you see the P.C. version. The sega version is suppose to be the worst.
It will be available for the P.C. and  Amiga's. Both are suppose to be better
that the sega version.

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From: GEORGE BARONE                          Number: 14573
  To: MARC YOUNG                               Date: 02/21/94 12:11a
Subj: CD-ROM Upgrading Tips an                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to JIM STEEN, Marc Young said:
 > JS>With all of this why do I still want a 3x or 4x SCSI?  I really can't
 > JS>justify it!  I'll probably replace my 1x Mits. with a 2x Pans. to plug
 > JS>into my SBPro (instead of the NEC 3Xi that I crave to attach to my
 > JS>UltraStor 34F VL and wait for the technology to "age" a little.

 > I have heard tell that the 3x are still slower than the
 > Toshiba 2x in
 > practice, especially as software is unlkikely to be written
 > with 3x or
 > 4x in mind until the price significantly drops. Can anyone
 > who owns a
 > Tosh drive confirm this??


 >  * OLX 2.1 TD * See a pin and pick it up - all that day
 > you'll have a pin

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 > 2 209/209
Before I bought my Toshiba 3401-b, i compared the NEC 3X-external with the
Toshiba. The NEC was running on a 486-66 & the Toshiba on a 486-33. NO
DIFFERENCE that I could tell, definetly not worth the extra couple of hundred
$$$. I was using the Animals CD. Not a scientific test, but it was good enough
for me to make a decision.

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From: BARON SCHWING                          Number: 14574
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/22/94  7:39a
Subj: Top Drawer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (19 Feb 94) Jim Lambert wrote to Baron Schwing...

 JL> Top Drawer is still available at the introductory price of $19.00!
 JL> This price is good until March 15th, so get your copy now.  This is
 JL> one of the VERY few discs you can put online and not worry about
 JL> copyright infringements, viruses, and commercial programs showing
 JL> up.  Give us a call if you have any questions or would like to place
 JL> an order.
 JL>
 JL> Computer Works                  Top Drawer $19.00
 JL> CD-Rom Sales
 JL> [phone] Voice        Visa & Mastercard Accepted
 JL> [phone] BBS          Online Orders & File Lists

 I tried to call your BBS this morning to order this but it just Rang and Rang.
 Will call back again tomorrow.


Thanks, B.


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From: JOHN ALEXANDER                         Number: 14575
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/15/94  4:26p
Subj: 2 sound boards                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Evan Lim to Marcus Lee <=-

 EL> -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Marcus Lee blurted out ≡=-
 ML> Well I'm running a PAS16 + GUS in the one machine. IMO its the best
 EL> What's the advantage or what is your purpose of running 2 sound cards
 EL> in one system?  Just curious.  Thanx!  EL

The GUS is a WaveTable card that can emmulate the Roland MT-32 with
drivers.  Real midi sounds better than systhesized.  You use the GUS for
Midi (music) and the PAS16 for digital output (voices).  This is a better
combination than just one card.



... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave!
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 14576
  To: VOLKER MEYER                             Date: 02/21/94 11:11p
Subj: kq5                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Sure, I've beaten KQ6 also. :) What's the problem you're having on it?
:)

TTYL,
                        Henry
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From: RICK CAILLET                           Number: 14577
  To: ZAPHOD BEEDLEBROX                        Date: 02/22/94 10:13a
Subj: CD-ROM and QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ZB> Fair enough if it works for you cool,but I have found that whilst
QEMM are ZB> always 2 steps ahead of DOS I don't think they are user
friendly as there a ZB> just too many switches,options to make it all
click together.I have purchas ZB> Versions 6 & 7 and upgraded them and
am back to DOS 6.2 as QEMM 7.2 has ZB> problems moving the Doublespace
driver(or their equivalent) to upper ZB> memory.This is detailed on
their BBS and they have not released the patch y ZB> due to
compatibility problems.Don't get me wrong QEMM is an excellent progr ZB>
and memmaker is a poor copy of it but COMPATIBILITY is a bitch.Anyways
good ZB> luck with it and catch ya !!! ZB> --- FMail 0.96Γ ZB>  *
Origin: Centrelink BBS [phone] (3:711/926) (3:711/926)


DOS 6.2 requires QEMM 7.3.  I have a CD-ROM, scanner, etc.  QEMM
vertually set itself up (configured itself), no more switches.  QEMM 7.3
has a "stealth DBLSPCE" feature that some how hides DBLSPCE.  After
installing QEMM 7.3 I went from less than 600 K of conventional memory
to 634 K of available conventional memory.  If you call QEMM BBS they
have the patches available to DL for your ver. of QEMM.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 14578
  To: THE LAWMAN                               Date: 02/22/94 10:23p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW S                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello The!

Saturday February 19 1994 22:01, The Lawman wrote to Carlos Pisani:

 TL> Should never post a credit card number where everybody could see it,
 TL> libel to find lot more charged to the card than you authorized or at
 TL> least your dad would.

And it was so considerate of you to re-post it for all of us to see.

Later,

Dave

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 14579
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 02/22/94 10:24p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Steve,
You are still in mailing list nad we have not did a Canadian mailing this month
since we are updating the catalog. We will mail them from Canada most likely.
TTYL

Ismail Arslangiray
Groupware

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 14580
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94 10:24p
Subj: SUPER ONLINE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are a sysop or a BBS user. Super Online the CD-ROM with full
of BBS, Communication related programs and utilities. Ask to your
favorite CD-ROM dealer or order from

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 14581
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94 10:24p
Subj: SYSOPS                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Free Advertisement Opportunity for your BBS
If you are a sysop who is runing Super CD series online, we will
advertise your BBS in a special section of our catalog. Our catalog
goes to our 25,000 plus mailing list and being distributed in the
main trade shows ect. Please remit your information in the
following format

BBS Name   Tel(#)    Sysop    Baud Rate
--------   ------    -----    ---------

Please fax your information to 1-206-473-1634

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA THIS CONFERENCE
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From: THOMAS HOFFECKER                       Number: 14582
  To: ROGER GILER                              Date: 02/21/94  1:39p
Subj: Nec-3Xi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-18-94 08:08, ROGER GILER wrote to ALL about NEC-3Xi


RG>UltraStor does not have a driver.  Suggested that I buy a driver set
RG>from Corel. "It might work", I was told by their Tech.

I've been following the on goings in the Compuserve Corel Forum, Corel is
in the final stages of testing and certifying the NEC 3X drives. You might
want to give them a call. Some users are using NEC 2X Multispin drivers
with success, but some things are quite working on that setup. I'm sure the
Corel won't miss the opportunity to support them.

Thomas Hoffecker

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From: JAMES WILSON                           Number: 14583
  To: KYLE LANCLOS                             Date: 02/22/94 12:49a
Subj: Re: Try this!!!!!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have been trying to setup two configs in DOS 6.2 for some time now and have
not been able to get it to work. I wonder if I could get you to post a copy of
your Autoexec.bat and Config.sys... So that I can see how it is done..
Thanks... Jimm..

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From: DENNIS HAMMACK                         Number: 14584
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  3:09p
Subj: Need help                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've just installed a sony CDU6205-10 drive on my system. The drivers are
installed and I can read a DOS format (ISO) format disk but the system does
not recongize a music CD. I've tryed both DOS and Windows CD player software,
but neither can get any information off the disk.  Anyone have any
suggestions?
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From: RYAN O'DONNELL                         Number: 14585
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  3:55p
Subj: CD-I                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in buying a CD-I system.  could someone tell me what kind of
software is out for this system? Also I noticed that two company's make them
Philips and Magnivox, what system is better?  And my last question is what kind
of processing power does it have, would it compare to the REAL 3DO system.

                        Thanks.

                                                Ryan O'Donnell
                                                Fort St. John, BC
                                                Canada


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From: SCOTT VALLER                           Number: 14586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  5:56p
Subj: Authoring a cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

I am in the middle of researching the possibilities of authoring a CD-Rom with
a series of searchable text files that would be in RTF format with bitmapped
graphics.  The text files should be seperately accessible to the user as normal
RTF files that he can move to a HD or floppy.  Also, the search engine should
use an indexed search table and provide the interface to read the files.

If anyone can lead me in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it.
Also, what about companies that will press out disks in large quantities?

                                  Thanks,
                                  Scott Valler
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 14587
  To: RON KRAMER                               Date: 02/22/94  3:39p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RK>What automap feature?  What mazes?  Im still trying to get in the door
RK>bottom of the drunks secret tunnel!  I finally got past the pop quiz...
RK>is it possible to start the car with the crank and drive it?

RK>There is a lot of talk of drinking and driving???

Hint: Forget the car

Hint: You don't want ol Booz to DRIVE do you?  Get him drunk and take his
keys.

For more hints, check out the GAMING echo; they talk about RTZ all the
time.




Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.10 # 153 *
... Yeah, lemme speak to Brett Weir!
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From: JOHN SALAZAR                           Number: 14588
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/23/94  3:15a
Subj: Comptons Encyclopedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hello Ed
      Ed I ordered A CD from you about a week or so ago and got
      a reply I would get it. I was wondering if it is in the mail?
      I have seen you have the posting that they are for sale again.
      So I was wondering if I am still getting the Comptons Encyclopedia
      or maybe you missplaced my address. Can you also let me know if
      it is the latest version of Comptons Encyclopedia.

                    Well here is my address:
                        John Salazar
                        620 Milner Mtn. Ct.
                        Windsor, Colorado  80550

                            Thanks..





... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14589
  To: GARY HILBERT                             Date: 02/23/94  5:53a
Subj: Texel 3024                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (15 Feb 94) Gary Hilbert wrote to Andrew See...

 GH> AS>Boris, have you heard about CD's getting very hot inside the Texel
 GH> AS>drive. When  I remove a caddy from the drive, it is physically
 GH> quite
 GH> AS>hot. Any ideas?

I have a Texel 5024 and my cd's do get quite hot also.  I think that its
from the power supply that is in the same case.  Since there is no fan a
heat buildup will occurr.  I have had no trouble even though I have
left it on for many 24 hour periods.

TTYL



... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14590
  To: DAN BOOTH                                Date: 02/23/94  5:53a
Subj: CD-Speedway                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (18 Feb 94) Dan Booth wrote to All...

 DB> Has anyone out there used "CD-Speedway" a cache type program that
 DB> claims to speedup your CD Rom by thousands of percents?  Or "PC-Kwik"
 DB> which is similar?   Do they really work or not?

i am using speedcache plus to cache my cdrom.  The access times are
better when i run a test program but in real life i don't notice much of
a change.  If I had a single speed though i would give it a whirl.  If
you have DOS 6.2 the smartdrive does cache cdrom's, give it a try before
you buy!

God that rhymes.....

TTYL

... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 14591
  To: JOHN CHAN                                Date: 02/23/94  5:53a
Subj: CD-ROM Cache !!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (19 Feb 94) John Chan wrote to All...

 JC> To All,
 JC>
 JC>
 JC>
 JC>          l would like to know why CD Speedway and Norton Speed cache
 JC>          slows the CD-ROM down ????
 JC>
 JC> Also Smartdrive v5.0 doesn't seem to speed up things verymuch !!!

Cdrom disk caching programs will not slow down the cdrom.  How are you
testing the speed?  I have a double speed drive and while in real life
the increase in speed is not exactly blinding it will help.  Try this,
set up scplus to use as much ram as you can give it. Copy a fairly large
file (one that fits into your cache) once.  Copy it again.  The second
time will be much faster.
I really don't see as much difference on a cdrom as on my hdd though,
probably beacuse I access a lot of smaller files more often.

TTYL

... ..Vic Hlushak..Fort McMurray..Alberta..Canada

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From: JAY BROWN                              Number: 14592
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 02/23/94  5:53a
Subj: Reveal Cd Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Michael Guidry said:
 > A local electronics chain is selling Reveal Doublespeed CD
 > drive packages
 > for a ridiculously low price.  A friend is tempted and asked
 > me about it,
 > but I haven't seen any reviews or comments about the quality
 > of the drive.
 >  Does anyone have any experience with them?

Yep.  Bought one about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  The drive is really a Panasonic.
Although fairly early in the game, I have been quite pleased with mine so far.
Installation was pretty straight forward, and when I ran into a slight snag
(HERE'S THE REAL CLINCHER) I called toll free, at 7:00 on a Saturday evening
and received EXCELLENT support.  Very impressive!!!

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From: TIM CASADY                             Number: 14593
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/23/94  7:23a
Subj: recommendation for CD-ROM drive         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking to get a CD-ROM drive sometime this year, and I'm not sure what
drive to get.  I don't want to buy a lemon, but budget is also an issue (With
the cost of buying the drive and having it installed, I want to stay under a
grand total of $500 if I can.)
I probably want at least a double-speed, though triple-speed sounds
out of my price range.  I also want something that hopefully won't
be obsolete for at least a year and a half or so.
-------]
On a slightly different note, Terry Gilliam is supposed to release an
interactive version of Monty Python footage on CD-Rom later this
year.  Then maybe when I've been working on my PC, I can take a
break by having my computer sing "The Lumberjack Song" or the Spam song.  That
would be nice.
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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14594
  To: STEVEN JONES                             Date: 02/18/94 10:13p
Subj: cdu33a cdrom drivers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Steven,

On 12 February 1994, Steven Jones wrote:

 SJ> The questions are 1. does anyone know of the drivers needed for this
 SJ> drive?

You need MSCDEX driver: I advice you to get at least 2.0 version (for exaple,
if you want to use Terminate's 1.4 cd-player you need at least version 2.0).
I bought the same cd-rom unit on December and found in the pack even the floppy
containig MSCDEX 2.2 driver: I don't know which is the latest release but I
suppose there shouldn't be other one...

 SJ> special drivers or do they come with either dos 6.0 or windows 3.1 ? Any
 SJ> help at all would be appreciated.

I don't believe that there are special drivers in DOS 6.0: infact MSCDEX is for
Micro Soft CD Exetension. If Micro Soft itself distributes cd-rom drivers
separately, I find it difficult that there are special drivers with DOS 6.0
release.
About Windows 3.1, remember that this program is based upon DOS...
However nobody's perfect, so I could be wrong... :)

 SJ> lose my 5 1/4" inch drive. Does anyone know of a way to keep the 2
 SJ> floppy's and this controller?

I can't help you because I never had a 5 1/4" inch drive and consequently I
plugged my cd-rom unit into the floppy controller...

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14595
  To: NIGEL HUNT                               Date: 02/19/94  3:00p
Subj: CD ROM help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Nigel,

On 13 February 1994, Nigel Hunt wrote:

 NH> When I play some CD's like Mad Dog McCree etc I get a popping noise
 NH> during the speech. Has anybody else experienced this and have they
 NH> managed to fix it or am I just wasting my time.

Even if I own a different hardware, I advice you to control if you are using
the correct driver.
For example, you could be you using your SB16 with a Sound Blaster compatible
driver.
Moreover, control if Mad Dog McCree requires a buffer of a fixed size for
playing music: maybe your buffer size should be not big enough.

If you use the right driver and have setted correctly your buffer size... well,
forgive me for losing your time! :)))

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14596
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/19/94  2:49p
Subj: cdu33a cdrom drivers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao ALL,

On 17 February 1994, Rick Nay wrote:

 RN> Call sony's BBS to get the drivers. The # is [phone]. Good Luck.
 RN> The latest driver for that drive is 1.71a.

I've got a very interesting thing to tell you about SLCD drivers...

I live in Italy and bought a CDU31a unit in December: in the pack I found
Sony's floppy disk containing SLCD driver: well, the disk was infected with
"Form" virus!!!
The thing is really incredible considering that the floppy was original from
Sony!
A friend of mine bought the same cd-unit and found the same virus always on the
folppy disk.
Another very interesting fact was that while on the floppy's label was
indicated that the disk contained SLCD version 1.27a, the driver I found in was
the 1.61a one...
Even if I suppose that this event is circumscribed to Italy, please control
your SLCD drivers...

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: STEFANO SILVESTRI                      Number: 14597
  To: STEVEN JONES                             Date: 02/19/94  3:03p
Subj: cdu33a cdrom drivers                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ciao Steven,

Il 18 Febbraio 1994, Stefano Silvestri scriveva:

 SJ>> The questions are 1. does anyone know of the drivers needed for this
 SJ>> drive?
 SS> You need MSCDEX driver:

Reading this message I noticed to have forgotten to mention you even SLCD
driver: I own 1.61a version but I suppose there are new releases.
Please, excuse my oversight...

Ciao,

                            Stefano

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From: MICHAEL STRONG                         Number: 14598
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/21/94  9:22p
Subj: CD rom catalouge                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a copy of your CD ROM catalogue
Michael Strong
310 Clay St.
Hampton Va
23663
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From: TOM GUELKER                            Number: 14599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  9:09p
Subj: Mitsumi question                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I run a Wildcat! BBS and had two Mitumi LU005S and one LU002S readers
online connected to their 8 bit cards with IRQs or 2 3 and 5 and the
base address set at 300 304 and 308. This setup worked great. Users
were able to access any disc. I added another LU002S and had a 16 bit
card for the 4th reader. For some reason, it conflicted with my Always
IN2000 SCSI controller, in that the computer would not boot. If I
removed the 16 bit card, the computer would boot. I used another 8 bit
controller, but my only choices for IRQ settings were 2 3 and 5. Since
these were already being used by the first 3 readers, I thought I was
out of luck getting the 4th reader online. I set the 4th card to IRQ 5
(same as the third) and the base address to 310. The setup SEEMS to
work, although I do notice a slight delay when accessing the 4th reader.

Is there any problem with using two 8 bit cards set to the same
interrupt but different base addresses?

Why won't the 16 bit card work with my SCSI controller? Is there is
a different device driver for the 16 bit card than the 8 bit card? I'm
using version 1.5

Thanks for reading this, and a reply would be most appreciated if you
can assist me.

Regards,
Tom Guelker

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From: BOB DUNN                               Number: 14600
  To: DAVE LYLE                                Date: 02/21/94  6:47p
Subj: Music Through Speakers?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BD>I have a Mitsumi Doublespeed CD-ROM with a Sound Galaxy 16 sound
BD>card. Does anyone know what I can do to get a music CD to play
BD>through the soundcard and speakers, and not just the headphone

DL> Does this sound card have a 'line in' jack?  If so, go down to your
DL> local Radio Shack store and pick up an adapter cable....
DL> 1/8" stereo plug to dual RCA plugs.  (I think the RS number on this
DL> is 42-2475).  Plug the RCA's into the back of the CD-ROM interface
DL> card, and the 1/8" jack into the 'line in' of the sound card.

It does, and I have a cable. Thanks for the easy solution.
* SPITFIRE v3.5
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From: GARY HILBERT                           Number: 14601
  To: STEFANO SILVESTRI                        Date: 02/21/94  4:50p
Subj: Attaching the cable...                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS>Ciao All,

SS>I'd like to know if someone may advice me about how attaching my
SS>CDU31A-82 audio cable to the SB PRO2 cd-rom connector.

SS>Infact, as you know, SB PRO is only Mitsumi compatible: that means
SS>that the cable's connector doesn't plug into the SB PRO's one.
SS>Is it possible an hardware modification of the cable's connector?

The SBPro has a small (3 or 4 pin) connector on the side of the card
that accepts the audio CD sound signal from the CD-ROM player. This ONLY
relates to audio/music cd's NOT programs and games.

The SBPro compatibility with Mitsumi refers to the data cable (much
bigger 20+ wires wide).  This only carries the program and game signals
and has NOTHING to do with music/audio cd's.

In other words, you need 2 cables connecting your cd-rom player with
your SBpro sound card.

SS>Try to understand me: my SB is linked with my hi-fi and it's
SS>frustrating to be obliged to listen to the CD only by headphones...
SS>;)
SS>Ciao,

SS>                            Stefano

SS>--- GoldED 2.41
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SS>(2:331/364.2)

Gary A Hilbert    02/21/94  16:50
[e-mail]    [e-mail]
fido 1:2607/112          Northampton Pennsylvania

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From: CARL BENSON                            Number: 14602
  To: GLENN PROVAN                             Date: 02/21/94 10:10a
Subj: CD ROM & SB 16                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I recently sold my old SB board in order to upgrade my
 > system.  I am currently leaning to getting the SB 16
 > card to replace it.

 > Also, though, I wish to buy a CD ROM drive.  I was
 > wondering if anyone could give me some advice or help
 > on what kind of CD ROM drive I ought to be looking
 > for, to work with my SB16.

Well, NEC's MultiSpin 3Xi works fine with the SB16-SCSI2 ..

It has a transfer rate of 450kb/sec with 40% of computer time, and over 1Mb in
burst rate!..

// Calle

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From: DREW DUNN                              Number: 14603
  To: JOSEPH TELLER                            Date: 02/18/94 11:49p
Subj: Re: Frontdoor And Cd-Rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

--> Drew Dunn Quotes a message written by Joseph Teller
--> to Markus Rohner on 11:38 02-09-94 saying:
JT>  -=> A monograph regarding FrontDoor and CD-ROM Chan from Mark
JT> said: <=-
JT>
JT>  MR> Hi,
JT>
JT>  MR> I'm looking for experiences in having a CD-ROM Changer ru
JT>  MR> together with  FrontDoor. What kind of SW is used to chan
JT>  MR> Does it work when someone request files from different CD
JT>  MR> not currently loaded?
JT>  MR> Any tips kindly appreciated.
JT>
JT>  I haven't managed to get FD to recognize my SINGLE cd-ROM Dri
JT>  Any suggestions?

Yep, crack open that manual and read about the /NORES command line switch (as
in FD /NORES).  It will work around the strange directory naming structure that
networks (and CD's) place upon your system.  Oh, and be sure that you have your
directories in the text file that you made to define your FREQable directories.

Drew
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From: DREW DUNN                              Number: 14604
  To: VINCE CHIARO                             Date: 02/18/94 11:53p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-Rom Question                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

--> Drew Dunn Quotes a message written by Vince Chiaro
--> to All on 12:30 02-12-94 saying:
VC> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM that came with my 486dx33 clone. All t
VC> include by the company that put the computer together for me w
VC> installation booklet. I don't know what model the CD-ROM is bu
VC> like to find out. I also would like to find out if it is upgra
VC> Here are the specs, maybe someone will know what Mitsumi Model
VC> is...
VC> Internal drive with slide out top loading
VC> seek time on 12cm disc= 1/3 stroke 350 msec
VC>                         full stroke 650 msec
VC> data transfer rate= 150 KBytes/sec sustained
VC> spin up time= 1.0 sec
VC> channels= 2
VC>
VC> more info avail if needed. Any help would be greatly appreciat
VC> Thanks!

That Mitsumi Drive has been around for a while.  It is a single speed MPC-1 CD
player.  It is not really upgradable.  There is a double speed Mitsumi that is
out there.  I sell them for around $210.00.  Honestly, if you can afford it, I
would look really hard at upgrading from that model.  It is not photo-CD or
multi-session compatible.  I have one here that I run on the BBS...they are
durable, but very slow...

I don't have the model number handy, sorry...

Drew
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From: DREW DUNN                              Number: 14605
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/18/94 11:57p
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom And Lap Top Comput           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

--> Drew Dunn Quotes a message written by Evan Lim
--> to Matt Delco on 17:01 02-12-94 saying:
EL>  -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Matt Delco blurted out ≡=-
EL>  LM>Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen a lap
EL>  >(portable computer) with a built in CD-ROM player yet?
EL>  MD> I haven't.
EL> They make them for Laptops already...  it plugs into a 3½" dis
EL> need to pull the 3½" FDD out first).  I saw it previewed in...
EL> I forgot!  But look around!  EL

Now, this may be a stupid question, but where does the 5.25" CD go?

I have seen a few laptops with a CD-ROM integrated into the bottom of the
computer.  It made the computer an inch or so taller to allow room for the
player.

Drew
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From: DREW DUNN                              Number: 14606
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/19/94 12:01a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 11 A Lawsuits             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

--> Drew Dunn Quotes a message written by Evan Lim
--> to Doug Carpenter on 17:27 02-12-94 saying:
EL>  -=≡ Evan Lim butted in when Doug Carpenter blurted out ≡=-
EL>  MM> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for
EL>  MM> $250,000 for using their
EL>  DR> If Disney goes after Night Owls, you can bet
EL>  DR> they'll go after SysOps running
EL>  DR> the disc on-line next.  That's usually the sequenct of ev
EL>  DC> I heard that as well, and they have since recut the disc
EL>  DC> Disney images.  Disney is suing the distributors as well.
EL>  DC> Warner will be suing people for having Startrek stuff on
EL>  DC> soon and I think others are suing for having their music
EL>
EL> I don't think it is the responsibility of the user, but of the
EL> company themselves...  unless they ship each of us a writable
EL> have us erase them (yea right)...  Sux!  EL

You are correct to a point.  It is our responsibility to "unlist" the
commercial program from our BBS.  And Warner doesn't own Star Trek...it's
Paramount (I know...you didn't say it, Doug did).  If you happen to have a copy
of a Night Owl CD that it says that you (a sysop) must "remove the file(s) from
the TEXT directories".  As a sysop you will have covered yourself by not
listing the file for download.

BTW, there's more than just Disney copyrighted stuff on Night Owl 11.

Drew
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From: DREW DUNN                              Number: 14607
  To: SEAN BEGGS                               Date: 02/19/94 12:08a
Subj: Cd Cache                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

--> Drew Dunn Quotes a message written by Sean Beggs
--> to Joe Howes on 19:16 02-12-94 saying:
SB> How does one employ a cache for CD Rom?  I have ample room and
SB> would give it a try and see if I can boost Ye Olde Performance
SB>
SB> ('course, I have to know what I'm doing before I give it a try

Get DOS 6.2...it includes CD caching.

Drew
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From: ERIC LYTLE                             Number: 14608
  To: JIM LOHR                                 Date: 02/22/94  9:12p
Subj: Re: 1994 cd catalog                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Dennis Coleman <=-

 DC>Well finally the 1994 CD catalogue is now ready for
 DC>everyone asks for a copy to be posted to them on 720k
 DC>floppy disks.
 DC>leave your address here for a copy

Eric Lytle
522 L Street
Chula Vista, Ca 91911-1114

INTERNET : [e-mail]




... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: BILL YOHMAN                            Number: 14609
  To: THE LAWMAN                               Date: 02/21/94 12:54p
Subj: SCSI vs. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting The Lawman to Bill Yohman <=-

 BY> -=> Quoting The Lawman to Bill Yohman <=-

 BY> BY> -=> Quoting The Lawman to Richard May <=-

 BY>I think you'll notice that a lot of the time SCSI does NOT allow multiple
 BY>different devices to be added. Especially when you talk about diferent
 BY>vendors and such.

That was how the original message was sent.

Bill

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From: JAY BROWN                              Number: 14610
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 02/22/94 11:22p
Subj: Top Drawer $19                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Files.bbs in every DIR, so simple it can be run on a test
 > drive of QMODEM (tm). Plus SPITFIRE (tm) files SFFILES.BBS.
 > And you 4DOS (tm) users will find descript.ion files.
 > If you're a PC-BOARD(tm) SysOp, you'll find a comprehensive
 > SETMEUP.exe that will install the ROM for you! (...You do
 > have to have it in the CD-ROM player!) grin........
 > All archives are compressed using pkzip (PKWARE (tm) 204G
 > using maximum compression.
 > All archives and their members have been scanned with the
 > latest virus scanners.
 >
are the descriptions multi line?  Are they really descriptive?  Are the file
names spelled correctly?  Does the CD have a volume label?

The last rom I bought answered "no" to all of the above.  I want a refund. No,
I don't think I will say here who produced it?

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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14611
  To: BOB DUNN                                 Date: 02/20/94  4:14a
Subj: Re: Music through speaker               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Dunn to All Users <=-

 BD> I have a Mitsumi Doublespeed CD-ROM with a Sound Galaxy 16 sound
 BD> card. Does anyone know what I can do to get a music CD to play
 BD> through the soundcard and speakers, and not just the headphone
 BD> jack?
 BD> Thanks,
 BD> Bob

Bob,
        As you look on the back of the Mistumi drive, there should be
        four pins sticking out on the far right.  This is your CD-AUDIO
        PORT.  Whether you got this in a kit or bought as seperates,
        you should have gotten a little gray cable that looks like it
        will fit in the socket on the right.  Plug it in.  Take the
        other end of the gray cable and plug it into the CD-AUDIO IN.
        This is usually identified by a white plastic outlet with 4 pins
        on the inside and usually opposite the side from where you plug
        in the sound card to the bus port.  Hope that helps!

Armando, RTS


... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14612
  To: NOEL HUPE                                Date: 02/20/94  4:17a
Subj: Re: Panasonic dspin563                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Noel Hupe to All <=-

 NH> to all,
 NH> i'm running os2 2.1,with a sbpro deluxe,8bit sound card.i have an
 NH> opportunity to buy panasonic double spin 563 cd-rom for a decent
 NH> price,including installation.my question is ,will it it work properly
 NH> in os2?i need to know asap,thank you,ttyl,noel.

Hello, Noel...

        As far as I know, it MAY work, however, you will require special
        OS/2 v2.1 CD-ROM drivers for the Panasonic CR563's.

Armando, RTS


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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14613
  To: THOMAS MARTIN                            Date: 02/20/94  4:18a
Subj: Re: Sbpro/mitsumi                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Thomas Martin to All <=-

 TM> Help!  I can't get my PS/1 to run with my CD-Rom.  I have a Mitsumi
 TM> double speed with a Sound Blaster Pro.  I'r using DOS 5.0.  Do I need
 TM> MSCDEX?  I've tried both drivers that came with the CD without any
 TM> luck.  There doesn't appear to be an IRQ conflict.  What's up?
 TM> Thanks!!

Thomas,

        If you can get it to work on a SBPro, please let me know!

Armando, RTS


... This BBS has achieved Air superiority.
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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14614
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/21/94  2:40a
Subj: Re: 40pin connectors                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Evan Lim to Brice Fleckenstein <=-

 EL> -=  Evan Lim butted in when Brice Fleckenstein blurted out  =-
 BF> Calling the 40-pin-cable CD-ROM stuff "IDE" just perpetuates an
 EL> error
 BF> that can AND HAS had some ignorant folks trying to connect their
 EL> CD-ROM
 BF> drives to IDE hard drive controllers - with disasterous results to
 BF> their system. Even ONE such person making such an error due to
 EL> messages

 EL> What would happen if someone was to connect them up?  EL

Evan,

        Several things can happen:
                1.  The computer's IDE interface can fry.
                2.  The system won't boot up.
                3.  The system won't do nothing.
                4.  The CD-ROM device will burn.
                5.  See 1 and 4 put together.
                6.  Loss of data on your system.
                7.  CMOS Reset to invalid settings or Defaults.
                8.  Your monitor won't see what the computer is doing.
                9.  Your computer will burn, period.
               10.  It will cause E.T. to phone home finally and
                    let Elvis rest...need I say more??  :)

Armando, RTS


... Documentation - The worst part of programming.
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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14615
  To: OKTAVIAN FLORYSIAK                       Date: 02/21/94  2:42a
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Oktavian Florysiak to All <=-

 OF> Hello, I just got 7th guest and i have a video problem! I get a
 OF> messed up start up menu and when i play a puzzle i get the same
 OF> problem! I only have a vga card/monitor and what i think the problem
 OF> is, is that i need a multisync monitor which i don't have! Oh the rest
 OF> of the game runs fine! If you know anything about this please help me
 OF> out! Opps forgot something, i have a ahead b vga card which 7th Guest
 OF> finds and should support!
 OF> Thanks In Advance!

Oktavian,

        7th Guest comes should come with its own VESA drivers.
        Try looking for the archive somewhere in the directory that
        the second CD created (don't have it on me, sorry...)
        to see if that does the trick.  C'ya!

Armando, RTS




... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14616
  To: BOB FAGAN                                Date: 02/21/94  3:16a
Subj: Re: Driver needed for fut               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Fagan to All <=-

 BF> Hello,Ihave a toshiba 3301 cd-rom and future domain tmc-830 card.I
 BF> need to know what kind of driver I will need to make this combination
 BF> work on dos/windows 3.1?            I upgraded systems from a 386 ps/1
 BF> to IBM486SLC2/66mhz with AMI bios.I had the cd-rom & scsi card working
 BF> with os/2 2.1 . I am not ready to go back to os/2 2.1 at this
 BF> time.Nothing bad about os/2..I just have a disk drive that has some
 BF> bad sectors flagged by nortons,os/2 really got ugly on this media.
 BF> Thanks in advance..Bob  ..prodigy id jmdk28a
 BF> I log on here,and cfcs board.
 BF> also 407-679-8739 voice

Bob,
        OS/2 v2.1 has been a real issue with CD-ROMS and the
        compatability factor.  In short, I would like to say
        that, since IBM is the maker of the OS/2 v2.1 product,
        they SHOULD have a driver to make it compatible with
        CD-ROM drives.  However, this issue is just about
        moot since IBM isn't all that willing to co-operate.
        Remember Microsoft?  :)  You may wish to call IBM
        to find out if they have drivers.  If not, call the
        CD-ROM manufacturer.

Armando, RTS


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14617
  To: JOE SITKO                                Date: 02/21/94  3:21a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi 2x &sb pro                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Sitko to Carl Benson <=-

 JS> Thanks for the suggestion, but your solution seems a bit too messy.
 JS> I have since learned that I needed to perform a simple re-pin on
 JS> the audio cable and everything would work OK!

Joe,
        Learning the ins and outs of your drive will help in this case.
        The Mitsumi CD-ROM audio out on the back of this drive goes
        like this:

                Pins     1   2   3   4
                        [x   x   x   x]

                        1 - Right Channel
                        2 - Ground
                        3 - Left Channel
                        4 - Ground

        The CD-AUDIO OUT (as you look at the back of the CD-ROM) should
        be like this:

                Top-Rear View of a Mitsumi 2xSpin Internal
        ---------------------------------------------------------------
        X           {power}   {40-pin straight cable}   {CD-AUDIO}    X
        X                                                             X
        ---------------------------------------------------------------

        Or something to this affect.  Hope this helps!

Armando, RTS


... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?
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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14618
  To: DENIS SHANAHAN                           Date: 02/21/94  3:33a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Denis Shanahan to Pedro Vieira <=-

 DS> Hello Pedro!....
 DS>

 PV>        Yes, it does. Thank's a lot, Denis.
 PV>        But I want something to CONTROL Mitsumi CD-ROM, to throw
 PV>        away this
 PV>        Mitsumi board.
 DS>
 DS> I don't think that you can do that... Mitsumi interface is propietary,
 DS> so no other card (that I know of) will work....

Denis and Pedro,
        Right you are.  I don't know if this is what you're
        looking for, but if the Mitsumi is to be controlled by
        a sound card, we have the SC400 Revision 3 card which
        supports Sony, Panasonic, and Mitsumi 2xSpin CD-ROM drives.
        Shipment began two weeks ago on the card.
        The company (my employer) is Reveal Computer Products.
        We have 3 types of SC400's:

        SC400 Rev. 1 - Thumbwheel for controlling volume.
        SC400 Rev. 2 - No thumbwheel volume control.  Volume
                       is software controlled.
        SC400 Rev. 3 - The addition of the Sony CD-ROM interface.

                       No thumbwheel volume control (same as Rev. 2).

        All SC400's are 16-bit sound cards and are Sound Blaster Pro
        Compatible.  The sound cards control the following models of
        CD-ROM drives:

                Panasonic CR-563 Series, Mitsumi LU005S, and
                Sony CDU-33A.

        I hope this helps!

Armando, RTS



... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: ARMANDO ORTIZ                          Number: 14619
  To: SAM LAMBROPOULOS                         Date: 02/21/94  3:34a
Subj: Re: Mscdex /m?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Sam Lambropoulos to All <=-

 SL> I am using MSCDEX that came with dos 6.2 and was
 SL> wondering what the minimum and maximum number of sector
 SL> buffers is available using the following parameters.

 SL> MSCDEX /m:number
 SL> ^^^^^^^^^

Sam,
        At your DOS prompt, type HELP MSCDEX and press ENTER.
        This will give you as much information as you need for
        now to configure the buffers for MSCDEX.EXE.
        I usually tell my customers to set it to 20, but this
        is completely your decision.

Armando, RTS


... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
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From: BRENDAN KLASEN                         Number: 14620
  To: JASON BOWE                               Date: 02/18/94 11:14p
Subj: CDS                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi jas...it's me again.

I haven't used the system much lately, mainly due to the fact that it's been so
hard to get onto (i got kicked off megalink about 30 seconds after logging in
because it reckons I have used up all my time - bullshit...I'm afraid that some
bastard has got hold of my pword and is using it to access several bbses - so
time for a change again) and anyway, I've had the modem redialling for the past
hour trying to get onto this!

Anway, I'm here now.  What I wanted to know, was if you had any old cds which
are now out of date that you would be interested in selling?  If so, then could
you please get back to me (by voice if necessary), but if not, then maybe you
would be able to use your co-sysop powers to find out if any other sysops may
have some they may wish to sell for a nominal price.

If you can't/don't want to do this, it really doesn't matter, but if you have
anything in future, would you be able to let me know?

Kind Regards,
Brendan

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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14621
  To: BRANDON MULLER                           Date: 02/17/94  5:47p
Subj: Re: The Lawnmower Man                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brandon Muller to All <=-

 BM> I just bought the new game "The Lawnmower Man" on CD-ROM.  It says
 BM> that it is a 256 color game.  However when I play it on my system, it
 BM> looks almost ega.  The even stranger thing is that it supports SVGA,
 BM> which I have, yet it doesn't ask for it.  If anyone knows anything more
 BM> about this, please help.

Strange... the screenshots I saw in a UK magazine were SVGA with 256
colour... Perhaps you need to load a VESA driver for your video card b4
you try running the game. Maybe an option in the install program?

-T-

... This BBS is ancient.  Some say from the echocene.
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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14622
  To: NICK HONDA                               Date: 02/17/94  5:53p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM in MV'S 2xFusionCD16 KIT     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Nick Honda to All <=-

 NH> various kits and upgrade options. One kit that is a really decent
 NH> price is Media Vision's Double Fusion CD 16 kit. However, according to
 NH> the box the access time for the drive inside is 350ms... Would this be
 NH> a MAJOR drawback in running MOST multimedia applications? Or would it
 NH> just slow down things "a little?" Is it enough to notice the
 NH> difference? Or would it be really better to spend the extra 100 or so
 NH> and package a kit together myself with a faster cd-rom? Try to give

I have a Panasonic 562-b ( 350ms access, 300kb/s xfer) and it's a pretty
popular CD-ROM drive. Under all the CD-ROM apps I have (about 15 titles,
including The Seventh Guest, 4 encyclopedias and other references) I
haven't found one that really tests the CD-ROM drive except for The
Seventh Guest. The only problem there is that the screen updates are a
little herky, but that is undoubtedly due to my slow video card than
speed of CD-ROM drive. You'll still probably want a faster drive though,
as more demanding titles come released with FMV (if you play games) etc.

 NH> Also, does anyone know of any good CD-ROM drives with access
 NH> times of 280 or less? Preferably a SCSI interface because according to
 NH> Media Vision their PAS 16 card only works with a SCSI interfaced
 NH> can. I want to pair the drive with Media Vision's Pro Audio
 Spectrum NH> 16 card.

I believe the new NEC 3Xi/e drives are at least 280, and most likely
less. With a xfer rate of about 450kb/s, they're pretty nice. :)
I'm not sure about the SCSI question, but I've heard that the Media
Vision PAS SCSI interface is not as fast as a genuine SCSI adapter like
an Adaptec, Trantor or some others...

HIHAL -T-

... We're sorry, but reality is not in service at this time.
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From: DOUG DOCHERTY                          Number: 14623
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  7:20p
Subj: HaMoS BBS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     ╥     ┬ ╓──┐ ╓─╥─┐ ╓──┐  ╓─┐     To All comes the official announcement
     ║     │ ╟──┤ ║ ║ │ ║  │  ╙─┐     of the Opening of HaMoS BBS. Here
     ╟─────┤ ╨  ┴ ╨ ╨ ┴ ╙──┘ ╙──┘     are the facts about HaMoS BBS.
     ║     │   ╥────┐  ╥─┐   ╓─┐
     ╨     ┴   ║    │  ╟─┴┐  ╙─┐              1. Night Owl Version 11
               ╟────┴┐ ╨──┘ ╙──┘              2. Over 700 Mb of files
               ║     │                        3. Hundreds of Message Areas
               ╨─────┘
                                      The best thing about HaMoS BBS is that
    ╔════════════════════════════╗    for the first 150 calls will result in
    ║   Open : 24 Hours 7 days   ║    free financial membership for one year!
    ╟════════════════════════════╣
    ║ Data Number  : 02-948-2894 ║
    ║ Voice Number : 02-949-4923 ║
    ║ Fax Number   : 02-948-5104 ║             CALL HaMoS BBS NOW!
    ╟────────────────────────────╢
    ║   All lines are 24 Hours   ║         FidoNet Address: 3:714/914
    ╚════════════════════════════╝







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From: MARK BRACKEN                           Number: 14624
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 02/20/94  7:21p
Subj: Cd rom catalog.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI JOE,
        I believe you are selling cd titles. Can you send me a cataloge. My
Addres is as follows.
Mark Bracken
7 Perry St
Dundas.2117.
 Please send A.S.A.P.

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From: MARK BRACKEN                           Number: 14625
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 02/20/94  7:24p
Subj: Can you send me a catalogue.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi steve,
         Can you send me a cd catalogue.My address is
7 Perry st,
Dundas.2117
att:mark bracken

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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 14626
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 02/16/94  8:49a
Subj: Doom on a GUS?                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 On 02-04-94 Jason Williams wrote to Marcus Lee...

 JW>  > Aha, so its not just me... same thing here-so far. I'm going to try
 JW>  > removing
 JW>  > the speed compensating setting for our joystick port. and if that
 JW>  > fails, I'm
 JW>  > going to test out the joystick port on the PAS16...
 JW>
 JW> I doubt that'll fix it...  I've gone back to V0.99, seeing
 JW> it never caused any problems on my system anyway...

Well you're right it didn't fix it... Unfortunately I don't have v0.99 since
I bought it in the stores at v1.1....

[deleted]

 JW>  > And whats this dude that is going round saying people are playing
 JW>  > doom with
 JW>  > focal point 3d on the gus blah blah blah? Thats a demo isn't it? It
 JW>  > doesn't
 JW>  > interface with the game....does it?
 JW>
 JW> Focal Point 3d is a system of creating '3d' sounding sounds using
 JW> multiple
 JW> voices, etc.  All the necessary development tools are
 JW> included in the Software Development Kit, and developers

 JW> can include it in any of their programs...  The only catch
 JW> is that you have to store six copies of each sample in the
 JW> program, so it radically increases the storage space
 JW> required for the sound...  (This was what the GUS3DEMO file
 JW> did; I think that the original Focal Point 3d demo did it
 JW> with four samples, but I'm not sure...  It may have been
 JW> that that one was only 2d - i.e. the sounds can be anywhere
 JW> around you, but not above and below; where-as this one is
 JW> proper 3d [the sounds can be anywhere - above, below,
 JW> behind, etc.].)

Right...yeah I got mine working after changing the Irq like everybody
suggested...sounds pretty good. Is it really 3d? Or only 2d?
And that must mean that DOOM is alot bigger than it has to be for non-GUS
owners...Is DOOM the only game so far that runs it?

Regards.
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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 14627
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/20/94  7:34p
Subj: 2 sound boards                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 02-12-94 Evan Lim wrote to Marcus Lee...

 EL>  -== Evan Lim butted in when Marcus Lee blurted out ==-
 EL>  ML> Well I'm running a PAS16 + GUS in the one machine. IMO its the
 EL> best
 EL> What's the advantage or what is your purpose of running 2 sound cards
 EL> in one system?  Just curious.  Thanx!  EL

Well not everything has native support for the GUS as you probably already
know. And the PAS16 is next most supported, and its also got a separate
SB section which is always supported. And the GUS also emulates Roland
SCC-1 MT32 LAPC-1 with great success, so I've got alot of bases covered.

Not to mention that native software support for the PAS16 in Windows
environment gives me more than everything I want. ie Voice Recognition.
And its also supported in OS/2.

Regards.
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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 14628
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 02/20/94  7:41p
Subj: CD Games                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 02-14-94 Vic hlushak wrote to Marcus Lee...

 Vh>  ML>  A > Rotor/Airball/Time Bandit: Three already-popular video games
 Vh> come
 Vh>  ML> to
 Vh>  ML>  A > CD.
 Vh>  ML>  A >                each one a high-action test of your skill. 18
 Vh>  ML> missions
 Vh>  ML>  A >                2 player options. Extra bonus: megabytes of
 Vh> GIF
 Vh>  ML> space
 Vh>  ML>  A > ...............$27.00....for MAC...$52.00
 Vh>  ML>
 Vh>  ML> Could someone tell me what these are REALLY like? I mean they all
 Vh>
 Vh> Well, stay away from the Rotor disc.  I bought it for my kid and he
 Vh> looked at it once and then could'nt be bothered again.  It looks like
 Vh> three DOS games stuck on a cd.

Yep thats what I was afraid of. Thanks.

Regards.
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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 14629
  To: TONY WILLIAMS                            Date: 02/21/94  8:16a
Subj: Names                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-13-94,  Tony Williams elucidated to John Cucola:

TW>John, I don't know why you were writing me this message. I did not ask
TW>you that question. Let me know if there is two Tony Williams on this
TW>board. If there is, we will have to let the Sysop know. He may be able
TW>to allow us to use a handle or another name.

This is the international cdrom echo. mail for Tony Williams will
be received by EVERYONE who reads this echo, and will be flagged
for ALL people called Tony Williams. This is the nature of Fidonet
echos and mail.
If you see mail which is meant for another Tony Williams, feel
free to let it go past, or even respond as if it was for you if
you have something to contribute (you can't be guilty of "butting
in" in echos like this). I suspect that 95% of readers just "lurk"
here without posting any messages, but that's OK too :)

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 14630
  To: THOMAS NIETFELD                          Date: 02/21/94  8:16a
Subj: Wrong Echo                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02-14-94,  Thomas Nietfeld elucidated to Joseph Teller:

TN>Joe, you are mistaken in stating that there is no relationship between
TN>Wican and occultism and Satanism.  The relationship is symbiotic and
TN>historical in that wicca was, ....

..the precursor to CICA perhaps?  What the "hell" does your message have
to do with cdroms?

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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14631
  To: RANDY COGHILL                            Date: 02/20/94  1:48p
Subj: Re: CD rom GAMES                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Randy Coghill to Tony Saunders <=-

 TS> Rebel Assault-amazing (after you have installed the V1.4 bug fix :)  )

 RC> Tony, can you tell me where I can get the patch for Rebel Assault?  I
 RC> have the game and it is the 1.0 version.

If it works fine without the bugfix then you don't need it... for some
reason, it worked first time on my PC and so I don't need the bugfix,
even though I _do_ have it... :)

-T-

... I'm an incorrigible punster--so don't incorrige me!
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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14632
  To: JONATHAN CHAU                            Date: 02/20/94  1:50p
Subj: Re: CD rom GAMES                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jonathan Chau to Tony Saunders <=-

 TS> 7th Guest-excellent

 JC> Unfortunately, it's one of those games that you play once and shelf.

True...

 TS> Rebel Assault-amazing (after you have installed the V1.4 bug fix
 TS> :)  )

 JC> It sounds too much like X-Wing for my tastes.  I'm not a big fan of
 JC> flight sims.

It is NOTHING like X-wing! I didn't like X-wing either, but Rebel
Assault is a totally different game. The only controls are your joystick
and a fire button. It's is excellent for ppl like me who couldn't care
less about 126 different commands and just wanna kill some butt... At
least have a look at it, it is the furthest thing from a flight sim
ever. Total arcade mayhem there...

-T-

... I drive OS/2 now cause I'm sick of being a crash dummy for Windows.
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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14633
  To: EVAN LIM                                 Date: 02/20/94  1:52p
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom And Lap Top Comput           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Evan Lim to Matt Delco <=-

 LM>Can anyone out there tell me if they have ever seen a lap top computer
 >(portable computer) with a built in CD-ROM player yet?
 MD> I haven't.
 EL> They make them for Laptops already...  it plugs into a 3½" disk drive
 EL> (you need to pull the 3½" FDD out first).  I saw it previewed
 EL> in............... I forgot!  But look around!  EL

What? I don't think a standard 12cm CD can fit into the space created by
a vacant 3.5" disk drive, especially in a laptop... in a desktop system
where the 3.5" drive bay is bracketed to fit a 5.25" FDD then it'll
work. The IBM Thinkpad has a multimedia docking station which has a
CD-ROM drive in it, but not in the actual notebook.

-T-

... The seabird hater left no tern unstoned.
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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14634
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 02/20/94  1:54p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM and QEMM                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Arnie Gross to Grant Deason <=-

 GD> QEMM made it possible for me to optimize all 5 of my boot-up
 GD> configurations with minimal effort...

 AG> Just curious... why 5?

5 is nothing, especially when you need many diff. configs. For example,
there may be games than require different amounts of XME/EMS etc, clean
bootups, windows with/without CD-ROM, DOS with/without CD-ROM, maximum
ramdisk configs, maximum smartdrive configs, no disk caches etc. On my
desktop PC I have 16(!) different configs...

-T-

... Eye of newt, toe of frog, and a side of fries, please.
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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14635
  To: MARC YOUNG                               Date: 02/20/94  1:55p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Upgrading Tips an            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Marc Young to JIM STEEN <=-

 MY> I have heard tell that the 3x are still slower than the Toshiba 2x in
 MY> practice, especially as software is unlkikely to be written with 3x or
 MY> 4x in mind until the price significantly drops. Can anyone who owns a
 MY> Tosh drive confirm this??

Not that I have a toshiba drive, but with regards to software written
with 3x and 4x drives in mind, Rebel Assault has the option of being
played on a 1x, 2x or 3x drive. The different settings control how mich
detail you get.

-T-

... I am Zsa Zsa of Borg.  Prepare to be assimilated dahling.
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From: TIM WENAS                              Number: 14636
  To: LEW MURRAY                               Date: 02/20/94  1:57p
Subj: Re: Encarta                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lew Murray to Geoff Neal <=-

 GN>I actually got Encarta for $199, I was quoted up to $249 from various sourc

 GN>Got any bargains ???

 LM> CompUSA has it on sale here locally for $99

Most likely the price that GN quoted was Australian $... really should
start putting the US$ and AU$ in now! :) $199 is a good but not
excellent price to pay for Encarta in Australia, it's available at some
Melbourne discounters from abour $165 (whoops, make that AU$165! :)

-T-

... Get thee down.  Be thou funky.
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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 14637
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/20/94  7:04a
Subj: For Sale - Second hand computer equipment from BBS  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Denis Coleman, In a message on <Feb 16>, you said :

 DC> I have some equipment from the BBS that i want to sell.

 DC> 1/ External CDRom drive, case and cards. $400
 DC> inludes 6 CD trays, also willing to sell a couple of cd's
 DC> cheap as part of the deal.

 DC> or make me an offer. Please reply here.

Denis  can you  do something about your origin line. Remember this is an
International echo, many people would not know that you are from Australia and
that your prices are also in Australian dollars. It would help immensly if you
fixed your origin line to at least indicate where you are located and also in
your AD pls mention that it is in Ozzie dollars. I am sure you will get some
messages from the US saying that they have seen better prices at their nearest
Mcdonalds store or wherever.


                                        Laurie

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From: HERSCHEL BLAIR                         Number: 14638
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 02/21/94 11:47p
Subj: Re: Comptons's Int Ency                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

would it be okay to send 35 in the mail and have it sent with postage
due? if so, check is in the mail..

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From: JOHN ZELENKY                           Number: 14639
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/21/94  7:14p
Subj: 8086 CPU w/ CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Help Wanted !

Is anyone out there using a CDROM with an IBM PS/2 model 30 ?  I have
been told that a CDROM player can't be used with the 8086 (8 MHZ) CPU,
and I don't want to believe it.

If anyone is using a CDROM with this CPU, please let me know what unit
you are using and what interface you are using and if you are satisfied
with it.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Regards,

John Zelenky
New Bloomfield, PA

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14640
  To: RICCARDO GRANDI                          Date: 02/22/94  1:07a
Subj: Re: night owl 11                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 16 Feb 94 06:32pm, Riccardo Grandi wrote to All:

>>    hallo All!
>>    I'm an italian user, i wish to buy a copy of
>>    Night owl 11, i wish to know:

>>    1 the best price i can get

We have version 11. for $26.

>>    2 where

You can reach us direct at the fidonet address below or call us voice at
216-225-3263

>>    3 how much i have to pay with shipping and handling

Depends on how fast you want it ??

>>    4 how fast i can get it

See the above statement

>>    5 can I pay with visa?

Yes and without any surcharge...

>>    6 order by fax, matrix or ?????

Our Fax number is 216-225-6759

Hope this helps...



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 14641
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  1:07a
Subj: NEW CD'S                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$$$$$$ H O T  N E W  CD'S  AND  H O T  N E W  P R I C E S $$$$$$$$$$$$

DeskTop Bookshop $18.  Software Vault Platinum - $18. Tech Arsenal    - $18.
Night Owl 11.0 - $26.  Shareware Trio - 3 cd's - $16. Window Archiver - $13.
OS/2 Comp      - $13.  So-Much-Modem Madness   - $22. Word Perfect    - $13.
PC-Sig 13      - $22.  Pier 3                  - $19. Ham & Scanners  - $13.
Ecstacy (while supply last) - $25.    Nova I or II (adult) bbs ready  - $21.
Women On Wheels (Due Out Soon)- $28.  Kodak Photo CD w/Proccessor     - $35.

     ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

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From: MIKE YOUNG                             Number: 14642
  To: SAM LAMBROPOULOS                         Date: 02/20/94  7:29p
Subj: Re: MSCDEX /m?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Sam Lambropoulos to All <=-

 SL> I am using MSCDEX that came with dos 6.2 and was
 SL> wondering what the minimum and maximum number of sector
 SL> buffers is available using the following parameters.

 SL> MSCDEX /m:number
 SL> ^^^^^^^^^

 SL> Any information would be greatfully appreciated.

 SL> Regards Sam

The minimum is 5 and the max. is 65.  However be sure you are using the proper
device driver that came with your drive.  When I installed mine the software
that came with it installed the wrong driver and I had to just about max out
mscdex to get acceptable proformance.

                                        Later mike young





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From: TRANE FRANCKS                          Number: 14643
  To: TOM MUCHA                                Date: 02/22/94  9:23a
Subj: Mitsumi Single Speed & OS/2 2.1!!       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting - Tom Mucha to Trane Francks, 18 Feb 94  17:18
 -=> Subject - Re: Mitsumi Single Speed & OS/2 2.1!!

 TF> Was a piece o' cake. I have an LU005s installed with OS/2 2.1GA.

 TM> Do you know if it'll work with the OS/2 for Windows UPGRADE CD-ROM?
 TM> Cause I have the driver and I wanna make sure that it works.

Actually, I'd be surprised if the OS/2 for Win doesn't support
the drive already. A quick call to IBM support would tell you
right away. In the event that you do need the MITFX.ADD driver,
rest assured it *will* work for you, as OS/2 for Win is the same
as 2.1GA with the exception of the missing Windows code alone.

... If an experiment works, you must be using the wrong equipment.
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From: MIKE THOMAS                            Number: 14644
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/22/94  9:49a
Subj: Top Drawer Stats                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Not related to Top Drawer but another good place to get CDs FAST.
Shareware Services 1-800-578-3061.
Some examples of CDs:
   1. Night Qwl v11   $44
   2. Night Qwl v10   $34
   3. Software Vault Platinum  $44
   4. Software Vault Gold      $24
   5. Software Vault Games     $24
   6. Pier IV         $44
   7. Pier III        $34
   8. Special on 5 disk set including Night Qwl 10, 11, Graphics, Games,
      Windows   $119  Save $31
  Plus Pioneer DRM-602X, DRM-1804X, DRM604X And needed cables for all
  SCSI applications.
  Catalog on request.

 Hope this may help you.
 Mike Thomas
 The Clinic
 Everett, Wa.
 Home of watered sun :)


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 14645
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94  9:49a
Subj: New Support BBS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We are moving all of our support to Total Access BBS (1-206-472-9884) or
1:138/103. Total Access has a lot of features to offer and sysop is a very nice
person to help to callers. Total Access has 8 lines to serve you.

GroupWare
Support BBS: 1-206-472-9884

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From: JOHNNY MOORE                           Number: 14646
  To: PHILIP JONES                             Date: 02/22/94  9:49a
Subj: TRY THIS!!!!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Question:    Is  the  CD-ROM  driver  you installed a DOS Driver or WINDOWS
driver?



... OFFLINE 1.50  "The Get Busy BBS 206-589-1154"

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From: SUE CROCKER                            Number: 14647
  To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                   Date: 02/22/94  9:45a
Subj: Bookshelf '92 install                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-= WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. said to ALL about Bookshelf '92 install: =-
WS> Hello all! Recently I received a copy of the Microsoft Bookshelf '92
WS> CD-ROM. I installed the program, and no longer want it installed. Part
WS> the problem that I have, is that it installed some Wordbasic file into
WS> new Word for Windows (ver. 6.0), and whenever I start Word, I get a

Installing Bookshelf 1992 with Word 6.0 for Windows

   ----------------------------------------------------------------
The information in this article applies to:

 - Microsoft Word for Windows, version 6.0
 - Microsoft Windows operating system version 3.1
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SUMMARY
=======

The Word for Windows integration features included with Microsoft Word for
Windows & Bookshelf, Multimedia Edition, or Video and Sound Edition, will
work with Word 6.0 for Windows; however, the Setup program will not
successfully install those features with Word 6.0 since the Setup program
is designed to work with Word 2.0 for Windows only.

MORE INFORMATION
================

To install the Word and Bookshelf integration features for Word 6.0 for
Windows to successfully communicate with Bookshelf 1992, use the following
steps.

These steps do not install the Online Word User's Guide included with the
Word & Bookshelf CD-ROM. This guide is designed exclusively for use with
Word 2.0 for Windows.

Note: These steps assume Word 6.0 for Windows is already installed and
functioning normally.

 1. Insert the Word for Windows & Bookshelf CD-ROM into the CD-ROM drive.

 2. In Program Manager, choose Run from the File menu.

 3. Type "d:\setup" (without the quotation marks) and choose OK.

    If the CD-ROM drive is represented by a drive letter other than D, make
    the appropriate change in the line above to reflect the correct drive
    letter.

 4. When the Setup program prompts for the Word directory (the "Install
    Word In:" option), be certain to specify the existing Word 6.0 for
    Windows directory already present on the hard drive.

 5. The Setup program will report that it has detected an existing version
    of Word for Windows. Choose the Continue button to proceed.

 6. When given the choice of installation type, choose the Custom
    Installation button.

 7. When the Setup Options are displayed, clear every option except for
    Microsoft Bookshelf.

    Note: If the Setup program being used is for the Video and Sound
    Edition of Word & Bookshelf, you can also select the "Video and Sounds"
    option. This option is optional and has no effect on the integration
    features between Word 6.0 and Bookshelf 1992.

 8. Choose the Setup button and continue with the rest of the Setup program
    normally.

 9. At the completion of the Setup program, Word 6.0 for Windows will be
    reporting a WordBasic error. Choose the OK button in the error window
    and restore the Word window from the minimized icon on the screen.

10. From the File menu, choose Save As.

11. In the File Name box, type "c:\winword\startup\bookshlf.dot" (without
    the quotation marks) and choose the OK button.

    If your Word directory is located somewhere other than C:\WINWORD,
    modify the path given in the File Name box above to reflect the correct
    path.

12. From the File menu, choose Close.

13. From the File menu, choose Macro.

14. From the "Macros Available In" list, select "Normal.dot (Global
    Template)".

15. For each of the following listed macros, select it in the Macro Name
    list and delete it by choosing the Delete button.

       AutoExec*
       Nul
       wabBookshelfDlg
       wabConst
       wabInsertVideo
       wabInsertVoiceAnno
       wabModifyToolbar
       wabReceive
       wabSetup
       wabSetupAll
       wabSetupUg

    *Note: If you are unsure whether the AutoExec macro is part of the Word
    & Bookshelf Edition or if it is a different macro needed for other
    purposes, you can rename it instead of deleting it using Word 6.0's
    Organizer feature.

16. Choose the Close button in the Macro window.

17. Quit and restart Word.

18. From the Tools menu, choose Customize.

19. Select the Menus tab.

20. From the Categories list, select Macros.

21. From the Macros list, select ------(Separator)------.

22. From the Change What Menu list, select &View.

23. From the Position on Menu list, select (At Bottom).

24. Choose the Add button.

25. From the Macros list, select wabQuoteOfTheDay.

26. From the Change What Menu list, select &View.

27. From the Position on Menu list, select (At Bottom).

28. In the Name On Menu text box, type "&Quote Of The Day" (without the
    quotation marks).

29. Choose the Add button.

30. From the Macros list, select ------(Separator)------.

31. From the Change What Menu list, select &Tools.

32. From the Position on Menu list, select (At Bottom).

33. Choose the Add button.


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From: SUE CROCKER                            Number: 14648
  To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                   Date: 02/22/94  9:45a
Subj: Bookshelf '92 install                   Refer: NONE
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34. From the Macros list, select wabBookshelfDlg.

35. From the Change What Menu list, select &Tools.


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From: BERNIE WILT                            Number: 14649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/22/94 12:02p
Subj: PIONEER is Here!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: PIERRE LESSARD                         Number: 14650
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/23/94  7:38a
Subj: Mac CDs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 > The one we've had the most success with is Otherware I.  It
 > has 300mb of
 > Mac and 300mb of Amiga files, all on an ISO9660 disc.  The
 > files have

        Ok, You will soon receive my order!

Bye.

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From: MIKE TUCKER                            Number: 14651
  To: CHARLES HORSEY                           Date: 02/22/94  3:46a
Subj: MSCDEX /m?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  On 02-17-94 SAM LAMBROPOULOS wrote to ALL...

 > SL> I am using MSCDEX that came with dos 6.2 and was
 > SL> wondering what the minimum and maximum number of sector
 > SL> buffers is available using the following parameters.
 > SL>
 > SL> MSCDEX /m:number
 > SL>        ^^^^^^^^^
 > SL>
 > I don't know either but I have mine set at 1536 with /E
 > to use expanded memory as I am running a Pioneer six pack on a
 > bbs with very few delays finding files.

    The /m:number Switch tells MSCDEX how many buffers to allocate in memory
according to the Systems people that i spoke with. This can be tunned for you
system resources and can greatly improve performance while loseing system
resources. I Hope that i answered your question not really a right or wrong way
to configure it.

                            Thanks..: Michael W. Tucker

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From: MIKE TUCKER                            Number: 14652
  To: ALLAN STEVENSON-YOUNG                    Date: 02/22/94  4:01a
Subj: SBPRO/MITSUMI                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > THOMAS MARTIN said to ALL

 > TM>Help!  I can't get my PS/1 to run with my CD-Rom.  I have a Mitsumi
 > TM>double speed with a Sound Blaster Pro.  I'r using DOS 5.0.  Do I need
 > TM>MSCDEX?  I've tried both drivers that came with the CD without any
 >    ^^^^^^
 > Yes. I take it you didn't use the install program that came with
 > the
 > drive?

    Yes Look at the dos help on MSCDEX.EXE, Meanwhile your bbsdrive CDROM
Driver *.SYS file will need to bbe  innstalled within your BBS Door Screen
    This allows a USER To Not Sellectfdnc /F   also

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 14653
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 02/20/94 11:02a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 NOW SHIPPING               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hello Mike!

 > 04 Feb 94 07:19, Mike Morgan wrote to Mike Shannon:

 >  MM> I heard that Disney was suing Night Owl for $250,000 for using
 >  MM> their copyrited material, what's going to happen to me if I get
 >  MM> caught running this on my board?

 > Suing?  For what?  Did they steal PICS? :)

The Disney characters are themselves protected against use without Disney's
*express* and *written* permission, which they do not grant *unless* the Disney
organization approves of the use.  Night Owl would not have to *steal*
pictures, just the use of the character in *new* and *original* art work would
violate Disney's rights.

Larry

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 14654
  To: NINA IRWIN                               Date: 02/20/94 11:09a
Subj: SCSI VS. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >-> >Joe, could you enlighten those of us that are novices, as to the dif
 >-> >between SCSI and IDE interfaces for CD-ROM devices?
 >->
 >->  There is no such thing as a CD-ROM drive with an IDE compatable inte

 > The Sony single and double speed and the Mitsumi CD's
 > are all IDE
 > interface Cd's.  I am presently running a Mitsumi CD
 > in a 386-40 using
 > an IDE interface and it is working just fine on my
 > BBS.  I am not using
 > a sound card as the BBS is in my bedroom and I don't
 > want to hear it a
 > 3 AM (grin).

Here we go again.  There is *no* such thing as an IDE CD-ROM drive.  There are
CD-ROMs with IDE-like protocols, but, unless you can plug your CD-ROM into an
IDE disk controller along with your hard drive and have them work together,
what you have is *not* an IDE CD-ROM drive.  I don't care what the ad people
say.

Larry

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 14655
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 02/20/94  4:17p
Subj: TurboPascal Sharware CDROM              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Vh> On (13 Feb 94) Eric Engelmann wrote to All...

 Vh> EE> EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of

 Vh> Does EMS have a medical disc?  I think that someone
 Vh> mentioned it but
 Vh> ????

 Vh> TTYL

 Vh> Vic

 Vh> --- PPoint 1.74
 Vh>  * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:3402/22.4)

There are some medical practice products in the Small Business
Assistant collection of shareware, but only a few programs SPECIFICALLY for the
medical profession. Sorry.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 14656
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  4:26p
Subj: ASM CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 8th edition of
its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The February 1994 CD-ROM has
452 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 145,000 record PC products database. Voice:[phone],
Fax:[phone].
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From: MARK WARD                              Number: 14657
  To: TIM WENAS                                Date: 02/15/94  7:48p
Subj: Re: Wavetable sound                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tim,

* In a message originally to Joel Dumas, Tim Wenas said:

 AS> Yes you certainly can. I have an SB + a GUS, works just fine.....

 JD> But isn't GUS sound blaster compatible?....

 TW> Apparently the SBOS emulation is pretty dodgee. I wanna GUS,....

Just a thought, anyone though about starting a GUS_ECHO ?  I'd be interested
in it.

Mark Ward.

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From: SIMON BOOTH                            Number: 14658
  To: TONY CORKERY                             Date: 02/15/94  3:24a
Subj: Re: Chestnut CD-ROMS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tony,

 => Quoting Tony Corkery to All <=

 TC> I have not posted this just to berate Chestnut CD-ROMS (as much as
 TC> they deserve it) but to ask if anyone else has had similar
 TC> experiences with other CD's from their range?

Both the ones I've got from the Chestnut range are a bit on the naff side
just like yours. They are also recent(ish) releases.

In their defense I did find a *few* good files I hadn't come accross
elsewhere, but then the were like files from 1066 :)

They are dirt cheap, but not VFM :(

I also *haven't* bought any more since I got the two I've got.

Simon

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From: CRAIG OLDFIELD                         Number: 14659
  To: TONY CORKERY                             Date: 02/15/94  3:45p
Subj: CHESTNUT CD-ROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Interesting message about the Chestnut CD ROM as I got Our Solar System
for my son and found dupes, stuff which wouldn't run and poor descriptions
etc just like the problems you found. I certainly wouldn't recommend them
to anybody.

Yet another garbled message from

 Craig
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From: MARK WOLFE                             Number: 14660
  To: RICHARD AIRD                             Date: 02/13/94  6:01a
Subj: UK Cover Disks                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RA With Europress' PcHome already giving away cover CDs, it looks like
RA my CD-Rom collection might grow abit !

what a load of trash on pchome cd freebee's  and in the mag a load of new
uzer rubbish. for the same price you could get sortof decent cd's from the
usa



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From: BRYAN ANSLOW                           Number: 14661
  To: SIMON BOOTH                              Date: 02/15/94  1:18p
Subj: Cover CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Simon,

 BA> Does anyone know where the plastic CD cases can be obtained from at a
 BA> non-ripoff price.

 SB> How much do they cost at Smiths etc then ? I paid 50p each last time I
 SB> bought some to house the placcy wallet variety cover mounted variety.

Hmmm, I must admit that I have'nt seen any in Smiths, perhaps they
are hidden behind the counter, I'll ask next time I'm in there.

Thanks,

Bryan.

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From: BRYAN ANSLOW                           Number: 14662
  To: DAVE DRURY                               Date: 02/15/94  1:22p
Subj: Cover CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Dave,

 BA> Does anyone know where the plastic CD cases can be obtained
 BA> from at a non-ripoff price.

 DD> Maplin Electronics (0702 554161) have single CD Library cases at 65p
 DD> and doubles at £1.35

OK - thanks, there is a Maplin shop in Reading, a couple of miles or
so from where I work so I'll give it a look next time I'm around
there.

Trouble is, it being Reading, the Car Parking is about a pound an hour
so I usually avoid it like the plague.

Thanks for the Info.

Bryan.

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From: NEILL TINLIN                           Number: 14663
  To: KURT ADKINS                              Date: 02/11/94  1:37p
Subj: Re: CD Writer.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KA>There are 2 sizes of blanks 63 mins (569mb, mode 1) and 74 mins
KA>(667mb,mode 2). Retail prices are around L17.50 +VAT in singles, for
KA>the 63 mins. 73 min. ones are a couple of quid more, obviously the more
KA>you buy the cheaper they become. If you wish, I can put you in touch
KA>with a supplier of blanks at cheaper prices than above.

Would appreciate this info for a friend Kurt.
He has access to a writer but has to supply his own discs since the
busybodies in charge of the consumables keep a close guard on them :-)
Cheers
Neill


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From: STEVE BLACKMORE                        Number: 14664
  To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI                          Date: 02/17/94  9:33a
Subj: Sbpro breaking up                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Brian!

Wednesday February 09 1994 11:51, Brian Rychlicki wrote to All:

 BR> I have been having some problems when using my CD-Rom drive.  Sometimes
 BR> the music crackles as though either the CD Rom drive is not working well
 BR> or the SBPro II is causing this problem.  It actually sounds as though the
 BR> audio is breaking-up or parts are being missed.  This occurs frequently
 BR> enough to be a nuasance.  Any comments about how to eliminate this
 BR> problem.

add /M30 to your MSCDEX line in autoexec.bat and / or upgrade to dos 6.2 and
use Smartdrv to cache your CD Rom

regards

Steve

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From: PHIL RITCHIE                           Number: 14665
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/16/94  4:51p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 11 BUNDLE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Boris Osadciw Wrote:
BO>            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E
BO>   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II -
BO>$45.00

Can you ship to the Uk and How much for the shipping ?

Phil

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From: ADAM KNOWLES                           Number: 14666
  To: CHARLI JAMES                             Date: 02/17/94  3:10p
Subj: Re: king's quest 6                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdly Doodly Doo, would you like some toast Charli!?

U know, on the 13 Feb 94 at 12:47, Charli James type-ED to All:

 CJ> I am really STUCK.

 That's nice :)
You should be writing this in gaming really..but what the heck!

 CJ>  I think I have picked up all the things I can and
 CJ> gone to all the ilands. But I can't get passed the Minotaur!

 A minotaur is a type of bull, that's all you need to know...:)

The one and only, super-sarcastic, mega-moronic, TOASTER! Otherwise known as:
 ___
 )--)DaM...

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From: SIMON BOOTH                            Number: 14667
  To: BRYAN ANSLOW                             Date: 02/18/94 12:12a
Subj: Re: Cover CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Brian,

 => Quoting Bryan Anslow to Simon Booth <=

 BA> Hmmm, I must admit that I have'nt seen any in Smiths, perhaps they
 BA> are hidden behind the counter, I'll ask next time I'm in there.

I mustn't have read the original well enough. I though you said it was
places *like* Smiths that charged rip-off prices.

I got ones like you get with the PC Home cover disk (just a bit of plastic)
for 50p (this isn't exactly cheap come to think of it).

Simon

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From: JAMES HALLIDAY                         Number: 14668
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/17/94  8:28a
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault codes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Tim Wenas to Peter Bryce <=-

 -=> Quoting Peter Bryce to All <=-

 PB> the next code does >not< work !
 PB> ** and the ending sequence = GREDDY

 PB> I've tried many permutations of GREDDY to no avail thinking it was a
 PB> typo. Other Rebel Assault owners may use the other 4 codes to show off
 PB> the CD to visitors like I do. :-)

     Why not on the bit with the spinning L press UP <Fire> DOWN <Fire>
     LEFT <Fire> RIGHT <Fire>.YOu should the hear "LOOOCUSAAAAARTS" when the
     L stops.BY entering the level you want in HEX you can choose your level
     and by pressing + and - reduce and increase your damage.

     all the best

      _____
        |
     \__/ ames


... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14669
  To: RICHARD JONES                            Date: 02/16/94  4:08p
Subj: controlling cd-roms                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Richard,

 RJ>great!. is that your bbs number ??? 0743 360287. if so,
Yup.

 RJ>whats the file
 RJ>called???
MCIHELP.ZIP, on the HD's, WINDOWS file area

See ya

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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14670
  To: RICK DEMERS                              Date: 02/16/94  4:25p
Subj: SG-16 with CR-562-B                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Rick,

 RD>change to
 RD>an SB-PRO or SB-16, I just got off of my SB-PRO and don't
 RD>regret it one

At least you'd get Technical Support and an excellent on-line service with
Creative!

See ya

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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14671
  To: STEVEN LANG                              Date: 02/16/94  4:30p
Subj: Creative CD ROM & OS2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI Steve,

You can get all Creative Sound drivers from our BBS here in the UK. Just dial
the Origin line...

See ya

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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14672
  To: ANTONIO BIANCHI                          Date: 02/16/94  4:32p
Subj: cdroms                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI Antonio,

I know this is off-topic so I'll be brief...

Any chance you could fidnet me a list of some cool BBS in your neck of the
woods? I used to live in Italy and would enjoy logging on now and again.

See ya

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From: MARCEL EVANS                           Number: 14673
  To: PEDRO VIEIRA                             Date: 02/16/94  4:36p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI Pedro,

 PV>        Few days ago I took a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM
 PV>        cannot connect it to my Sound Blaster Card. I heard

What SB card do you have?
Most SB's support Creative CD ROM drives (52x, 531, 563)

By the way, there is an offical Fidonet echo for Technical Support on Creative
products: It's called SB_UK and is on the UK backbone: Just in case it's of
use to you.

See ya

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From: ADAM EDWARDS                           Number: 14674
  To: MARK WARD                                Date: 02/17/94  9:32a
Subj: Wavetable sound                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (15 Feb 94) Mark Ward wrote to Tim Wenas...

 MW> Just a thought, anyone though about starting a GUS_ECHO ?  I'd be
 MW> interested
 MW>  in it.
 MW>

There are a couple of on-topic echos for the GUS. One is in FIDO, but
no-one brings it into the UK, it's FIDO.ADLIB and is for all soundcards.

SBC-NET has a few echoes that relate also.

And RIME has a soundcard echo also.

L8r
Adam

... Other than that, how'd you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

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From: ANDY STUYVESANT                        Number: 14675
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 02/16/94 12:10a
Subj: HOT PRODUCTS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (07 Feb 94) Boris Osadciw wrote to All...

 BO> $$$$$$$$$$$$ H O T  N E W  CD'S  AND  H O T  N E W  P R I C E S
 BO> Boris Osadciw
 BO>
Hi Boris, Can you help a lot of guys in the U.K. who would like to order
from your list, by posting a "one off" detailed list of the following:
1. Are you taking credit card orders, if so, which cards, any surcharge.
and can we fax orders with card details on to suffice?
2. If cash ($) or cards or money orders, what do you need for shipping
to U.K.to be added?
3. How long from receipt of order should we get the goods ?
4. Maybe you already ship to U.K. if so, who? (for bulk supplies).
5. If you have a batch of catalogues to dish out for U.K. perhaps you
can send a shipment and I'll overprint the answers to the above on them.
Thanks. Andy Stuyvesant. 1.Froxhill Walk, Brixworth, Northants.U.K.
        Tel/Fax: [phone].. Netmail: 2:2503/410.2 (may change soon)

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From: ANDY STUYVESANT                        Number: 14676
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 02/16/94 12:23a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD 3-PAK: $22                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

On (07 Feb 94) Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * ORDERS:
 MS> 509-457-2892
 MS>  FAX: [phone] * BBS: 509-457-0206 * VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER * S/H:
 MS> $4.50
 MS>
Hi Mike, a similar message, I have posted to Jo... Would you please post
your trading terms on here for the benefit of those who would like to
order from the U.K.
U.K.Credit cards? (visa/mastercharge/access/amex any others?)
Shipping rates to U.K.?(including method, to determine receipt time)
Discounts for bulk purchase?
Catalogues? (if you have any, I'm happy to re-issue over here)
Thanks... Andy Stuyvesant. 1.Froxhill Walk, Brixworth, Northants.NN6
9BJ. U.K.
 Tel/Fax: [phone]   Netmail: 2:2503/410.2 (may change soon)...


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From: JERRY MCDERMOTT                        Number: 14677
  To: ANDREW BARNHARDT                         Date: 02/20/94  8:00p
Subj: Cdrom On 386-40                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AB>  RS> Is anyone using a CDRom player with a 386-40 machine?  I read s
AB>  RS> comments about the Reveal CD Rom player being a good machine, a
AB>  RS> wanted to know if anyone was using one with a 386-40?  I though

I run two internal CD's on my 386/DX 40 with AMI Bios and have had no
problems at all.

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 14678
  To: JOHN ZELENKY                             Date: 02/23/94  7:00a
Subj: 8086 CPU w/ CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Is anyone out there using a CDROM with an IBM PS/2
 > model 30 ?  I have
 > been told that a CDROM player can't be used with the
 > 8086 (8 MHZ) CPU,
 > and I don't want to believe it.

There is *no* reason in the world why an 8086 (or the later 286 version of the
model 30) can't support a CD-ROM drive.

 > If anyone is using a CDROM with this CPU, please let
 > me know what unit
 > you are using and what interface you are using and if
 > you are satisfied
 > with it.

I'm not sure whether the model 30 uses the ISA bus, the MCA bus or something
else, but your best bet would be to find a SCSI controller that *is* compatible
with the model 30 and then to purchase any of the many *external* SCSI CD-ROM
drives.

Larry

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 14679
  To: PETER JANSSENS                           Date: 02/19/94 12:33p
Subj: Phonecheck Is Here!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Don't underestimate the safety a credit card can give you. Don't
-> overestimate it either. :-)


Your point is well stated and understood on this end. Thanks for
reminding me of something that I knew and had forgotten about.


James

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From: ERIC HO                                Number: 14680
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 02/23/94  9:45p
Subj: Dr. CD-ROMs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Denis,

   Have you received Dr. CD-ROMs? I shipped them to you one week ago.
   Thanks for joining our team.



Eric

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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 14681
  To: RICK CAILLET                             Date: 02/23/94  7:29p
Subj: CD-ROM and QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > DOS 6.2 requires QEMM 7.3.  I have a CD-ROM, scanner,

I hope you meant QEMM 7.03.  There is, at present, no QEMM 7.3.

Larry

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From: SCOTT FORBES                           Number: 14682
  To: RON KRAMER                               Date: 02/23/94  9:12a
Subj: Re: RTZork tips                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Ron Kramer to All <=-

 RK> Ive made some progress today - found someone under the bridge got him
 RK> to give me a good luck charm, found a drunks house and drank him to
 RK> the floor (after reading about toasting in the files) Found a secret
 RK> compartment under the floor - but how to get past the locked door down
 RK> there??
 RK> Also still can`t get past the pop quiz, and am I suppose to do
 RK> something with the mice?  Is it possible to use the crank to start the
 RK> old car?  Also why turn on the mill?

Hello Ron
 To get the door under Boozes house open you need the key (of course :)
Wirhout giving it all away , you must ask Booze for his keys after the third
toast
and before the fourth. You do not use the Crank until later - It will be
obvious.
The game gets a  great deal more interesting after you get by the secret door
:)
If you need any more help just drop me a line I have finished the game :)





... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: CHARLES CAMPBELL                       Number: 14683
  To: JOHN FOTI                                Date: 02/23/94 11:31p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Sale - Aussie only        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the info on Kings Quest 6

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From: MARK BILLINGE                          Number: 14684
  To: MARK WARD                                Date: 02/17/94 10:43a
Subj: CD ROM audio cable                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mark,

 > Monkey Island 1 CD isn't talkie :-( but the toons and
 > the odd sound effect are brilliant.

How does the game differ from the floppy version?  I was lead to believe it had
a CD-audio soundtrack - is that true?

Mark

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From: MARK BILLINGE                          Number: 14685
  To: ROB WESTBROOK                            Date: 02/17/94 10:58a
Subj: Panasonic 562B and OS/2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Rob,

 > I'm looking for a driver for the Panasonic 562 and OS/
 > 2. I have the 8 bit
 > card for the drive. I've tried SBCD2 and I haven't had
 > any luck.

Odd - I have a 562B drive and the standard 8 bit interface card running
perfectly under OS/2, with SBCD2 as the driver.

You'd better try again, it's certainly possible!

Mark

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From: ALAN MAYLIN                            Number: 14686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 02/20/94  9:33a
Subj: BBS Software                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a good CD Rom for my BBS. I currently have the Black Box
Roms.  Does anyone have any good suggestions please.
Perhaps you could let me know how much, where from etc.

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From: KURT ADKINS                            Number: 14687
  To: PETER BRYCE                              Date: 02/20/94  5:24p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault codes                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Ripping off conversation between James Halliday to Peter Bryce <=-

 -=> Quoting Tim Wenas to Peter Bryce <=-

 -=> Quoting Peter Bryce to All <=-

 PB> the next code does >not< work !
 PB> ** and the ending sequence = GREDDY

 PB> I've tried many permutations of GREDDY to no avail thinking it was a
 PB> typo. Other Rebel Assault owners may use the other 4 codes to show off
 PB> the CD to visitors like I do. :-)

You are right it's a typo, it should be GREEDO

You can now marvel at the magnificent, no expense spared ending. *NOT*

Have Fun

KurT


... Acid -- better living through chemistry.
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From: KURT ADKINS                            Number: 14688
  To: NEILL TINLIN                             Date: 02/20/94  9:18p
Subj: Blank CD-R's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Ripping off conversation between Neill Tinlin to Kurt Adkins <=-

 KA>There are 2 sizes of blanks 63 mins (569mb, mode 1) and 74 mins
 KA>(667mb,mode 2). Retail prices are around L17.50 +VAT in singles, for
 KA>the 63 mins. 73 min. ones are a couple of quid more, obviously the more
 KA>you buy the cheaper they become. If you wish, I can put you in touch
 KA>with a supplier of blanks at cheaper prices than above.

 NT> Would appreciate this info for a friend Kurt.
 NT> He has access to a writer but has to supply his own discs since the
 NT> busybodies in charge of the consumables keep a close guard on them :-)

No probs, the guy to speak to is called Julian, he is the owner of a firm
called Nuttall Computers. His number is 061-491-1195 or fax on 061-491-1191
I can't give you a price as it depends when you call and what quantity is
required, though I can say that the prices will be substantially lower than
those above.

BTW although I have no business connections with Nuttall Computers, please
feel free to mention my name and/or the source of this message.

Have Fun.

Kurt



... Other than that, how was Dallas, Mrs. Kennedy?
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From: HARRY GREEN                            Number: 14689
  To: BRYAN ANSLOW                             Date: 02/20/94 12:57a
Subj: Cover CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BA> Trouble is, it being Reading, the Car Parking is about a pound an hour
 BA> so I usually avoid it like the plague.

Maybe that's how Tandy's end up with their L1.99 price.  They buy them
from Maplin at 65p, but then they have to add on the car park charges
when they go to collect them.


... OFFLINE 1.24 *

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